Brazilian National team thread

[Luis Ah-Hoy]

Of course I know Brazil is the most talented NT. The thing is that talent by itself doesn't make 25000 people go there to see them. If it was true, then we'd have 25000 everytime someone in the streets was doing keepy uppies.They went there to see a team that won the World Cup, players that are successful. Talent wins nothing by itself, and you as a german know that....

I already explained that, it's not just about the talent, but also about the pompous of the event and all that stuff... i dunno what keepy upies is, but certainly that it isn't comparable to a training session envolving the arguably best NT in the world (in the road to a WC!!!), which many of those people that went there, doesn't watch very often...

There I said that if talent won the matches by itself, we'd see Nigeria and Senegal as world beaters. If there's no defense and experience, there's no titles. But he seems to disagree with that...

And i never said that talent won the matches by itself, so... why are poiting this?

"If there's no defense and experience, there's no titles."
Duhhhh...

Where in any of my posts, i seem to disagree with that?

 

[Kibe Kru]

You mentioned you were "T-I-R-E-D", I guess you're not anymore. Why bring this sh!t up every now and then?

Calling people dumbasses (here) because they don't agree with you also is quite telling about your personality.

And i never said that talent won the matches by itself, so... why are poiting this?

Please refer to the last part of this. I don't feel like going through it again

So... leaving behind this useless Germany vs Brazil training attendance arguing, now tell me, which other foreign nation has registered the attendance numbers in training as Brazil's? Maybe some other has, but you first lemme know which, then we'll talk again...

When has training attendance become the way we rate the nation? That was the point I was trying to make when I mentioned Germany's attendance.

Attendance numbers just show how hyped up the nation is, mainly by the media. Proof? Britney Spears took 200k to Rock in Rio. Guns'n Roses took 180k. Neil Young took 125k. Britney was overhyped by the media, hence the bigger numbers. More talent? I don't think so.

Oh, and if we ain't gonna talk again if I don't mention which nation had more supporters in their training sessions, I'll try my very best not to find out any.

I thought we weren't gonna go through this until after the world cup. Well, I won't get into it anymore.

 

[Luis Ah-Hoy]

When has training attendance become the way we rate the nation? That was the point I was trying to make when I mentioned Germany's attendance.

Attendance numbers just show how hyped up the nation is, mainly by the media. Proof? Britney Spears took 200k to Rock in Rio. Guns'n Roses took 180k. Neil Young took 125k. Britney was overhyped by the media, hence the bigger numbers. More talent? I don't think so.

Oh, and if we ain't gonna talk again if I don't mention which nation had more supporters in their training sessions, I'll try my very best not to find out any.

I thought we weren't gonna go through this until after the world cup. Well, I won't get into it anymore.

Anyone who doesn't recognize Brazilian's players superior talent as their trump card, and argue that it's their experience and good defence that makes the difference, between them and other NT's is a dumbass!

I mentioned the 25.000 people, because it's a very huge attendance, for any training session (and don't come again with the number from the German training session; that was discussed already)...

Quoting -Vince-
"Every kid knows Brazil is the most talented NT in the world that's why people even go to their training sessions to see the likes of Ronaldinho, Adrinao, Kaka etc. kicking the ball. It was even broadcasted here."

Vince don't know for sure, how many brazilians were there in the crowd, neither do you... but one thing is for sure: it's still a huge attendance!!! And when they were filming parts of the crowd in and out the stadium, it didn't seem to me that there were so many brazilians there, but then again, i also can't be sure just because of that, so... let's leave this...

A guy was being interviewed, after (or during) the training session... i think he was a Russian... he said this:
"I came here to see Ronaldinho and company... it's a pleasure to see such skilful players... they really delight the crowds!"

Coming from a not-brazilian, and that's says it all, really.... brazil are delightful to watch... they're the best, and in training, they're even more delightful to watch!!!

Yeah, i WAS tired... and i'm getting tired now also... but anyway... i'm going to see Poland's game now! Peace...

 

[Kibe Kru]

Anyone who doesn't recognize Brazilian's players superior talent as their trump card, and argue that it's their experience and good defence that makes the difference, between them and other NT's is a dumbass!

Welcome to my ignore list, first time it'll be used. Not even Liternit got there.

Just to make it clear, and don't bother answering to this, I won't be able to read your answer, if the defence and experience don't make the difference, play 10 16 yrs old attackers.

 

[Luis Ah-Hoy]

How dramatic...

I never said that defence and experience don't make the difference... what i meant is that in Brazil's case, it's not because of their defence and their experience that they're considered the strongest NT; in their case, it's not that what makes the difference! But this guy never understand anything i say...

 

[Kibe Kru]

Ok, I may hate the guy, but this was just priceless:

http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/esporte/ult92u102977.shtml

After getting to know our president Lula asked Parreira about his weight, Ronaldo said this:

"Everybody says he drinks a lot. It's a lie that I'm overweight just as much as it must be a lie that he likes to drink a lot."

I still dislike him, but I think he just went up in my respect scale.

 

[WilliamFAlmeida]

see class haha

"Acompanhei os primeiros jogos ontem e os resultados foram previsíveis, como a vitória da Alemanha e do Equador. Hoje a Argentina também deve vencer, mas com um pouco mais de dificuldade", disse o lateral brasileiro.

- Cafu

He knows his $#!t, Im glad he's the captain over Emerson

 

[WilliamFAlmeida]

Of course I know Brazil is the most talented NT. The thing is that talent by itself doesn't make 25000 people go there to see them. If it was true, then we'd have 25000 everytime someone in the streets was doing keepy uppies.They went there to see a team that won the World Cup, players that are successful. Talent wins nothing by itself, and you as a german know that.

im going to have to politely disagree and say that neither you nor I know the reason why 25000 individuals choose anything.

But if we were to make guesses Id say people wanted to see the stars...And people believe that Brasil is the most talented. That's the current voice of the people
not that many showed up to the french/Italian/Protuguese/argentinian/English training camps, even though they are very talented.

Please dont own me anymore Kibe :hit:

 

[Kibe Kru]

Never owned you, William... we've had arguments before, but they were classy arguments. No name calling or whatever.

Sure, they're there to see the stars. I can only wonder what would happen if Brazil were not world champions, or didn't have all the media drooling for them. I don't have the numbers for the 2002 World Cup, but I'd suppose England had a lot of attendance. All the sexually unsure boys and all the girls shouting for Beckham. Argentina too was well hyped up by the media, as well as France. I believe they were well attended, even if maybe they weren't the most talented nations.

 

[Luis Ah-Hoy]

Still crying because i called him a dumbass...

Well, if someone refuses to accept a fact, or isn't able to understand what other people are trying to say, then... well, maybe there's another name for people like that... i dunno...

 

[WilliamFAlmeida]

Never seen this Brasil play so bad...
but to be fair, every first WC game of ours is shaky...1-1 Sweden(94) 2-1 Scotland(98) 2-1 Turkey(02)......

 

[Luis Ah-Hoy]

I'm quite sure it was Parreira's instructions...

The players said in the Press Conference that the Croatian defence was very hard to break and they were struggling to do so... i agree that the Croatian defence is good, but... if Brazil strives to attack, if they had played with more determination and had risked more in attack, they'd get at least two... i don't doubt it, not for a second...

 

[Lennon]

if Parreira takes Fatso out of the starting lineup Brazil will improve dramatically.

 

[R.9]

if Parreira takes Fatso out of the starting lineup Brazil will improve dramatically.

Parreira said that he will still have Ronaldo as a starter,he better step-up his game cuz in the last game he did nothing.

 

[Kibe Kru]

http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/esporte/ult92u103555.shtml

Ronaldo was sent to a hospital in Frankfurt after feeling dizzy. According to the Brazilian FA and the player's spokesperson, nothing abnormal was found.

With Robinho and Fred raring to go, I'm actually feeling sorry for them. Ronaldo barely trains because of blisters, fever, has an abysmal performance in training, in which the subs beat the starters 3-0, has a poor performance in the match and Parreira keeps him in the side. I wonder what it'll take for him to be benched.

 

[Lean]

Never seen this Brasil play so bad...
but to be fair, every first WC game of ours is shaky...1-1 Sweden(94) 2-1 Scotland(98) 2-1 Turkey(02)......

Our first game on 1994 was Russia, and we won 2-0.

 

[WilliamFAlmeida]

ooops
good call


Anyway Is Ronaldo untouchable?

http://esportes.terra.com.br/futebol...EI5583,00.

Parreira gave Ronaldo an ultimatum!!

 

[Kibe Kru]

We'll see...

 

[Kibe Kru]

So much for an ultimatum...

http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/esporte/ult92u103903.shtml

 

[WilliamFAlmeida]

he did play much better (well I guess nothing would be worse), but he wasnt that bad imo. He ran at defenders, took shots, dribbled and assisted the gol...not bad.

After this game we can conclude that Gilberto Silva HAS to start over Emerson..