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The Poker Thread

Tajike

SG's Fluffiest
Rob;2333327 said:
6 handed cash games rule man.

Get into it. I will post you a nice pre-flop hand range if you want. Basically, tight unless you are button or cut-off, where you go nuts. :) And just fire blanks at lots of pots in position in cash games. You scoop up so much dead money.

Would be great! Not saying I'll try to pick up cashgame play anytime soon but a little preparation won't hurt.

Most I've ever won in a cashgame was $70 at $ .5/1 and that just in 2 hands. I hit and ran that table never to return to the realm of cashgame-aments.
 

ShearerM4

Fan Favourite
Good stuff.

Any links for a website with a good starting hands preflop percentages calculator? Remember seeing one a while ago but lost the link, and can't find anything.

Lost an all in preflop today with AA against A10, i'd like to know what the percentages were.
 

ShearerM4

Fan Favourite
That one is great! Thank you very much, sir :bob:

91.5% indeed... that just pisses me off even more. Luckely it was my usual micro stakes.
 

smoove

Reserve Team
I only play cashgames these days. there are quite a few good games around my area, I normally play in a 6-8 handed .20/.50/1 no limit hold em game with 80 € Minimum Buy-In and a 4-6 handed .50/1 mixed game with holdem, pot limit omaha and limit hold-em, the game switches after 10 hands minimum is 100 bucks.

over the last 3 months I've made ~ 1200 € in those games, I find it pretty easy to beat those games as people often get novice player to take a shot, and those are either not danerous (if they're lucky) or dead money (if they're not).

There a certain Situation that really bugs me, that has occured on many occasions for me,now.

I hold a medium pair like TT and open the pot for like 3 times the big blind from middle position. I get raised the minimum by the button, BB calls everyone else folds.

Flop comes: Ts Js Ah

BB checks, now I guess the button either has me crushed pocket Carlos*s or Aces, he has top-top, ace queen, Kings or Queens. I beat 4 out of 6 likely hands. BB could very easily already have a straight and check the nuts into the raisers, a spade draw or anything the Button has.

Normaly I would put in a large bet here, like the pot or 1.5 times the pot.
The Problem is: my opponents are likely to lay down any hand I could beat and that if I have the best hand, I'm not going to make a lot of money with it. If I get raised, I have a hard decision to make, likely for a big part of my stack.

With the initial raiser behind me I could of course check, hoping that he either missed the flop with KK or QQ and tries to pick up the pot, or that he hit it with AK,AJ,AQ and value bet. The problem is: If he is on a draw I'll give him a free card. And if a K or a Q hits I'm beat 90% of the time. I probably wouldn't call a large bet by the BB or the button on 4th Street if a scare card like K,Q or a spade comes up (38%), and would have missed my chance to pick up the pot.
 

Tajike

SG's Fluffiest
smoove;2334736 said:
I only play cashgames these days. there are quite a few good games around my area, I normally play in a 6-8 handed .20/.50/1 no limit hold em game with 80 € Minimum Buy-In and a 4-6 handed .50/1 mixed game with holdem, pot limit omaha and limit hold-em, the game switches after 10 hands minimum is 100 bucks.

over the last 3 months I've made ~ 1200 € in those games, I find it pretty easy to beat those games as people often get novice player to take a shot, and those are either not danerous (if they're lucky) or dead money (if they're not).

There a certain Situation that really bugs me, that has occured on many occasions for me,now.

I hold a medium pair like TT and open the pot for like 3 times the big blind from middle position. I get raised the minimum by the button, BB calls everyone else folds.

Flop comes: Ts Js Ah

BB checks, now I guess the button either has me crushed pocket Carlos*s or Aces, he has top-top, ace queen, Kings or Queens. I beat 4 out of 6 likely hands. BB could very easily already have a straight and check the nuts into the raisers, a spade draw or anything the Button has.

Normaly I would put in a large bet here, like the pot or 1.5 times the pot.
The Problem is: my opponents are likely to lay down any hand I could beat and that if I have the best hand, I'm not going to make a lot of money with it. If I get raised, I have a hard decision to make, likely for a big part of my stack.

With the initial raiser behind me I could of course check, hoping that he either missed the flop with KK or QQ and tries to pick up the pot, or that he hit it with AK,AJ,AQ and value bet. The problem is: If he is on a draw I'll give him a free card. And if a K or a Q hits I'm beat 90% of the time. I probably wouldn't call a large bet by the BB or the button on 4th Street if a scare card like K,Q or a spade comes up (38%), and would have missed my chance to pick up the pot.


Put in a nice probe bet (1/3 pot-1/2 pot) and see what the Button does. If he calls and the turn isn't a scare card, try to put in another bet on the turn; if he calls and a scare card comes be prepared to check it down or fold to a substantial bet. If he raises you on the flop: push and pray as I think a fold is too difficult in this spot and calling his raise will make you pot commited. Never ever give him a free card in this situation!!! Let him pay to draw out on you.

[nb: this is what I would do in tournament play. Don't know if there's a different approach in cashgames]
 

smoove

Reserve Team
thanks for the advice. I've checked brunson's super system 2 for a similar situation and dolly suggests to bet about half the pot so one of the players will come over the top and you can push and pray as you said. ;)
 

Rob

Mourinho’s Assistant
You definitely cannot check in the dark. If you do, you are playing the next hand with no knowledge and it could prove costly. Betting now saves you money on the turn of the river should it turn out to be unfavourable.

Bet 60% of the pot in that situation. You need to lead and show strength. It is such a wild assumption to put your opponent on trips or a straight off the flop. You are the favourite here. If the opponents fold, so be it, just take down the pot.

A pot sized bet is negative -EV in the long run here. 66% of the time your opponents don't hit. Betting 100% or 150% of the pot is a losing play.

This is how I would think.

If the big blind is a smart player at all, he is re-raising if he has AA or KK and maybe QQ after that min-raise by the button. He wants to isolate one of you because then he is a clear favourite. If he isn't re-raising then I think his hand range is anywhere from AJ+ or perhaps KQ, but unlikely. But, it is low level, so he may be stupid and may have KQ out of position, or even AJ.

With the button, have to take into account his position. Although he has re-raised, his hand range is still rather large. In honest, I re-raise on 6 handed even with suited connectors at times, he could be on anything. He however is the player you have to worry about, not the big blind. He is the one with position.

To sum it up, lead out, bet 60% of the pot, if he re-raises I would fold. If he doesn't and just calls, fire another bullet at the pot regardless of the card. Maybe a 50% bet of the pot. He might be scared you have the straight. If he calls, you know where you are at, and you get out of there.

Plus you can always suck out and make some money. :jambo:

But kind of hard to judge without a read.

Just curious, what does everyones notes on other players look like?
 

Tajike

SG's Fluffiest
After a though month of May I can't say how happy I am with June:

One of those $1 tournaments (yeah yeah, I wussed out of the $25 tournament which I was planning to play): 313 started, I finished 2nd, winning approx. $50.

Was 1 coinflip away from winning my 3rd tournament of the year :(
 

ShearerM4

Fan Favourite
A friend of mine saw this hand unfold in a tournament he was playing in:



:funny:
 

ShearerM4

Fan Favourite
4 has always been my lucky/favourite number. Used to wear it playing football. Here, it's just a way of saying I like poker :D


But I always enjoy it when they come good:
 

Tajike

SG's Fluffiest
ShearerM4;2388237 said:
Brand new season of High Stakes Poker started last night...



Off to a great strart!!

Been an avid fan of the first three seasons (God, last seasons final group was breath-takingingly awesome)
I've been promised more fireworks, Jamie Gold donkness and the biggest amount of money on a High Stakes Poker show ever. A must-watch for poker fans.
 

Tajike

SG's Fluffiest
Taj's Official Poker Challenge

After following Chris Ferguson's bankroll challenge from closeby (getting from $0 to $10,000 on Full Tilt) and witnessing how he managed to do this (he infact got to $13,000 and counting) I figured I could set up something like this aswell.

The set up:

From September 1st onward I shall commit myself to the following challenge: on PKR I will start of with a pre-determined bankroll. This will be used to play one tournament a day and this for the entire month. I will start with $1 buy-in tournaments for the first month (being September). At the end of the month I shall review my total profit/loss. If I made a profit during that month I will move up to the $2 tournaments the following month. Every month I shall move up to a higher limit untill I finish with a loss after which I will move down again. Aim of this challenge is to reach the highest buy-in tournaments on PKR within the year and still show a profit.
With this bankroll I am forbidden to play ring games and sit 'n' goes. I'm also not allowed to play more than ONE tournament a day (not even when I use my normal bankroll for these extra tournaments). My starting bankroll is $122.66 (this odd number to keep my normal bankroll as a round figure to keep my bragging rights)

Yesterday evening was my first try, finishing 20th out of 363 and winning a hefty $3.08 :(
All will be documented in a Google spreadsheet and will be posted at random times or when asked for.

People who play on PKR can railbird me anytime they want. During September I'll be playing the $350 guaranteed at 19.30 GMT.

Let us gogogo!

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pqfiAYJz81Ld_erRCNL8YWQ
 


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