jatin said:
but isnt this the same religion where "fatwas" are issued every now and then to exile a raped victim from the religion..even tho she was raped by her own father in law( a recent case in India..searching for some links on the net..)And when the media made a hue and cry..the matter was dozed off as a family matter..and the fatwa still stood...
heres the link for a news report on the event abt the rape
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4640905.stm
Here's one phrase from ur site:
"The Deoband school promote a radical brand of Islam which is said to have inspired the Taleban in Afghanistan."
So not only are we talking about radical morons who don't use Qur'an and Sunna (2 bases of Islamic law) to issues fatwas, we are talking about
THE PEOPLE WHO INSPIRED TALIBAN in Afganistan.... Please.... Don't ask me to defend or explain these kind of people.
And it makes sense that the kind of news that makes it to the media is always 'shocking', 'outrageous' and 'inhumane'.... coz if it weren't, no one wud bother reading it. It is, after all, an industry.
However, at the same webpage, the overwhelming Muslim Protests to this ruling is clearly seen and there's nothing more for me to say.
jatin said:
..isnt tht a bit out of quiestion since most Islamic women arent allowed to work?
Uh.. no they're not.
Again, ur talking about a stereotypical speculations based on shallow impressions. Women in all muslim/arab countries (more than 30 countries) have always been "allowed" to work, with few radical exceptions like Afghanistan... and unfortunately, it is countries like these that form a rather attractive material for the media... so combine it with already known impressions from being resident in a socially and religiously unstable country like India, you can easily say outrageous claims like: "Hey most women in most muslim countries aren't allowed to work".... which is so far from the truth.
Actually, Prophet Muhammed's wife was one of the most pioneer traders in Arabia. The Doctor responsible of the Muslim's army, was a woman. Prophet Muhammed reversed in a record time the traditional status of women. Such as the right of vote and elect, a right given in countries like Switzerland in 1945. And is issues like education, Prophet Muhammed says:
"Seeking Knowledge (science) is an obligation to every muslim man and woman".
Here's what prophet Muhammad has to say about treating women:
"None but a noble man treats women in an honorable manner. And none but an ignoble treats women disgracefully"..... Who is the best one of us? Here's how Prophet Muhammad answered this question:
"The best of you is one who is best towards his family and I am best towards the family". ....
One of prophet Muhammad’s companions asked him "What do you say (command) about our wives?" He replied: "Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not revile them." .... Not a single Ideology in History has raised women's value more than Islam and I bargain you to prove otherwise. Who is the most wicked one of us? This was prophet Muhammad’s answer:
"The most wicked among the people in the eye of Allah on the Day of Judgment is the man who goes to his wife and she comes to him, and then he divulges her secret." To that extent must a husband keep the Privacy of his Wife. These are the morals of Islam.
As I said before, many people mix up between tradition-based and religious-based actions in many countries. And I don't really blame them. It's not like ppl are jumping at a chance to attack a certain faith on purpose even tho they know it isn't true. You see something wrong, you condemn it. So true. But at least know what exactly ur condemning and what ur not, because you could, unintentionally, grow a feeling of intolerance and misunderstanding among people.
Now as for your friend, I'm really sorry to hear about what has become of him. The fact is, in Asia, there are many other multi-cultural factors contributing to the already present deeply-rooted conflicts, other than religion. And all escalated by Muslim leaders following their own thinking and abandoning Islam's teachings. Such as when Wazir Khan, the Subedar of Sirhind was unable to convince the young ones to convert to Islam, he ordered their execution. Nawab Sher Mohamad of Malerkotla reminded Wazir Khan that Quran forbids the killing of young children whereas Diwan Sucha Nand Bhandari urged Wazir Khan to execute the young ones by saying, "The offspring of a poisonous snake are also poisonous snakes." The young ones were tortured before being bricked alive.
This is deeply-rooted behaviors based on man-made traditions, and not teachings of a certain faith, be it Hindu or Islamic.
And I chose an example of Muslim leader injustice, where I cud have chosen otherwise, but then u wud have called me biased.
The Qur'an warns against this kind of behavior:
"Do not let hatred for a people incite you into not being just. Be just. That is closer to heedfulness. Heed God (alone). God is aware of what you do."
The Qur'an 5:8
And as I said before, the info I have as regards sexual harassment is 1st hand... you can't even compare sexual harassment in Western workplaces with any sort of harassment that may exist in other workplaces. You just can't. I can go as far as saying that sexual harassment didn't even reach a level of importance in these countries to even deserve making statistics about it. Other issues are focused upon, such as unemployment, poverty, health and education issues. The comparison doesn't even exist.
