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Mandieta6

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Xaviesta;3816319 said:
Because players can join us in January and we have Adama Samper Halilovic Munir Sandro Grimaldo at Barça B. The squad will be the same, at least

Barca have not had a successful youth player establish himself since Pep. Why do you think a bunch of liga adelante players will be able to reproduce the output of 2 veteran regulars? Are any of those guys even a right back?
 

Jaboldinho

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For any other team, that's not a long period. And even if it were, that's not relevant. The potential of the talent at hand at the moment is.
 

Xaviesta

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Palencia is actually decent. We can play with Montoya/Adriano/Bartra until January and Alves didn't even say he's leaving ffs. Barça B is full of talents and we only need 1-2 players, not all of them.

Earlier I forgot to mention Denis Suarez and Deulofeu.
 

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Jaboldinho;3816429 said:
For any other team, that's not a long period. And even if it were, that's not relevant. The potential of the talent at hand at the moment is.

That doesn't reply the doubts I cast on the team's crop of youth players being able to replace 2 experienced veterab players who mostly play different positions.

And it is relevant, it just isn't conclusive by any means, shape or form. The best indication for performance in most contexts is previous performance. Youth player output is also not entirely depedant on potential, but opportunity and training. The latter two are not that different between the established period and the projected (as very few players are actually leaving) so it is not only relevant but likely indicative, that Barca have not had success with getting high-end contribution from their youth players since 3-4 managers ago.

Montoya/Bartra/Adriano will not replicate Alves' output, if they were capable of that they'd do it and Barca would be rid of him already.

I'm sure all of those players are pefectly fine footballers but you're using videogame logic. You have a crop of players with potential, you have 1-2 spots for them so you predict that you can select the best ones and they'll fill in. That doesn't translate to the real game. There is no way any single one of them will be able to step in and play at the same level even aging Xavi was playing at. If they were able to do so, they'd be regular squad players by now.

There will be a decline, the question is whether it will be significant enough to chip away enough points from your haul to allow the waiter to swoop in.
 

Xaviesta

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Xavi has been good as a backup but no, there won't be a decline without him, not a significant one. We can live with Samper/Denis/Rafa.
 

Mandieta6

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You can certainly live, that doesn't mean there won;t be a secline. If they were good enough to do what Xavi does, they would be doing it.
 

Dytza

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I never rated Benitez as a Top 10, but with Madrid's current squad 2nd place and Quarters are a must for anyone.
 

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Real Madrid play all the titles in a 10% of the games (Clásicos, Atleti, Bayern, etc..) Rafa is a number 1 preparing specific games. I think is a very good move by Madrid if players believe in him.
 

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Xaviesta;3816594 said:
He's going to win EL tonight

 

Xaviesta

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Still won it.

Deulofeu hasn't been a flop. He started very well at Sevilla, he was in the starting XI and then something happened, not sure what. Barça wanted to bring back Deulo and Denis because of the transfer ban and since then, Emery gave up on them. Deulofeu is out of the squad and Denis barely plays. Emery said something like Deulofeu is a great player but selfish and he didn't want to built the team around 2 players that would leave after 1 season. Emery didn't care about him since then, while at Everton they cared more it seems.

Someone must work with him in the psychological aspect so that he can cut the selfishness bullshit and be a team player. It's good to be selfish sometimes, but he is at another level.

Anyway, Deulofeu deserves 1 season with Barça. Lucho and the player can change him.
 


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