PES6 pc Opinions

[night]

Well here's my review after a whole season of master league and a normal league season on hardest difficulty:
After playing the first 3 matches, I didn't notice any major differences between PES5 and PES6 and it definately felt like a patched version of PES5 so I thought I should play 5-10 more matches before drawing any conclusions. However, it still felt like a patched, "frustrating" version of PES5 that wasn't even patched correctly. What on earth are Konami thinking? The game still rules in terms of gameplay, but we want evolution, something really worth noting. Somehow I fail to see how many of you consider that gameplay improvement major. I have a feeling that this version of PES will even receive more negative feedback than the previous one.
Here are my gameplay annoyances:
- I don't feel like I am in full control of my players. It's like you have 80% control while a CPU "script" or whatever does the rest in a way you didn't intend to.
- More CPU cheating. It's like they Konami has their own database of cheating scripts that can be executed when necessary.
- The crappy player positioning somehow give a fake impression that passing is more realistic.
- Don't let me get started on shooting.
- The annoying fatigue problem as if all players smoke.
- I don't know if many of you noticed this, but this "bug" where a fast striker makes a very straightforward run between defences is back.
- Wingers are lazy with their runs. But this has been a problem since hell knows.
- Players that make a difference always are the first to get injured.
Those points give you the impression that PES6 is much more difficult but it's not. When the CPU cheats and every single ball magically bounces to a CPU player's foot, players are crappy in their positioning, you don't get to fully control your players, you eventually feel it's more difficult. Oh and save those "go and practice more" comments for some other occasion.
Whenever I feel like playing it, the frustration wins over the enjoyment after 3-4 matches as opposed to those old days where you could go on for 10-15 matches in a row only to notice that it's 4 AM in the morning.
I'm disappointed with PES6. Is that what Konami calls a step forward? I am thankful that it didn't cost me much to get this game except for the bandwidth and time of downloading it. Have a nice day and let the flaming begin.

 

[samuelbarros]

PES6 ....what a load of sh*t

Come on Seabastard, is this the best you can do? What a f*ucking muppet!

 

[samuelbarros]

Oh, and by the way, Mr Sh*itba*stard, if you're actually reading this, here's a suggestion....how about you go do something to actually "improve" your game instead of endless sideways movements?

The word "evolution" implies that things gradually evolve, get better!!! Not just stay the f*cking same year after year but in an ever so slighty different colour.

And your now tiresome fallback of cpu script as a substitute for gameplay can no longer be justified. So go do some f*cking work to justify another £35 fee from the punters, you lazy f*uckhole.

 

[faceNside]

I'll comment when I play the PS2 and PC versions. In the XBOX360 version (the one I've played) the gk are allways very bad positioned and let easy goals in. Hope these error is solved in the other versions.

 

[charlie74]

I think the key issues for me are the following:

1)Ball and player physics back to PES4, horribile shooting and a step back in term of depth of the game

2) Defense:

This a superkey point. In PES5 there were indeed an awful amount of fouls. nevertheless in real football if u try to steal the ball and touch the player it is indeed sanctioned. This made the off line quite frustrating but the on line quite realist. I mean you could be aggressive in the middle, but if a player made to the box u realy had to defend by positioning and not tackling to risk penalties. Close to the box you had to well considered your options as a free kick would very often result in a gol (i had 3-4 decent free kicks each game on line).

Now you lost control over this key issue in defense and pressing X seem kind of random, plus I have the feeling my central defenders are made of air, they do not impose themselves physically like they did before. I kthey would be better off by making the ref more intelligent rather than changing upsidedown the system.

Unfortunately they current market competitor is still in the ice age..........

 

[rifai]

PES6 is the best and realistic football game ever.....love this game so far.. like the improvement in player animation ..they movements of the players are so real..

some of the criticism here is pathetic ..if you ask me. :boohoo:

 

[pesfan007]

Hey,i noticed tt the LB or SB at the left side usually gets fatigued easily.even when his condt is excellent!!is this a bug?

 

[JanerAli]

PES6 is the best and realistic football game ever.....love this game so far.. like the improvement in player animation ..they movements of the players are so real..

some of the criticism here is pathetic ..if you ask me. :boohoo:

The keepers online are weaker then Iraqs government.

 

[JuventusForever]

anyone knows if you can score with a back heel, like in WE10?

 

[charlie74]

some of the criticism here is pathetic ..if you ask me. :boohoo:[/QUOTE]

We won't ask you.

 

[niceman]

anyone knows if you can score with a back heel, like in WE10?

Here is the proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQMUcXV4jAk

 

[subasa]

I just score another 9 - 1 game at Top Level.

I don't see the problem with shooting anymore, it's realistic, you have to time it right, create between yourself and the ball. Don't expect to bang good if you just got the ball and immdiately press square.

 

[JuventusForever]

Here is the proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQMUcXV4jAk

How do you do it?

 

[niceman]

How do you do it?

Matthews Feint:
Basically, all you need to do is have the ball at your feet in a stationary position, then press first left and then right, or vice versa (where left and right refers to 90 degrees from the direction your player is facing). As you might have guessed, this can be done in both directions by all players it seems.

 

[The_Knight]

I've been playing the demo for quite a while now...

Can the players be any slower?? any less responsive? This game is SO slow. I can't believe anyone thought the game was too fast.

Players run in an extra cool/calm way... their speed is really slow., it's painful.

The ball is SO SLOW as well. It takes ages to travel between players, who are slow to get to it (Balance a-la-Konami) ... The shots on goal are SO slow, too. Far-from-reality slow.

On the plus side: The animations are really nice. Especially those of the through lob pass, the headers, and the keeper saves. And no silly fouls. That's it.

The grass looks terrible. The overall gameplay and graphics of WE9LE look much better.

And what happened to Fifa's new offside rule? About not blowing the whistle unless the player participates/touches the ball? You know, the rule Konami implemented in PES5, the previous version? It used to be a time saver for me.

Classic Konami. Complaints about WE10 being too fast, and they go extreme and make PES6 too slow. Do we have to wait 2 years/versions to get every issue balanced correctly??

And finally, the SOUND.... what a failure it is. I play WE9LE without commentary, and it's not bad, however, in PES6, what's wrong with the constant crowd whistling/boohoo and the occasional "deep breaths"? I scored 3 goals in one half and the soundwas just as dull as ever.

On many aspects, imo, the game seems downgraded in comparison to WE9LE.

 

[Nabukodonosor]

The game is really crappy. The ball physics is ridiculas! The shots on goal are terrible. The game is way too slow and boring. The graphics are just the same as it were in the last 5 years. Why bothering to buy a new grapichs card?! Crappy crappy game. All the reasons to stay with pes5.

 

[Geronimo]

I've now played one season ML, not on the hardest difficulty, I'm currently at Average. Thought I should try that first, since it's a long time since i played PES. Well, this is my opinion:

Shooting the ball over the stadium from the penalty mark isn't that cool, guess I've never seen that in a real fotball-game.
The offside-rule is totally wrong in this game, the ref would never blow if the ball doesn't reach the player in the offside position.
Also the sidebacks does a very lazy job zone marking wingers. My backs always get in to the middle of the pitch, leaving the winger alone unless I manmark him. That's not how zone marking should work, as the winger definately is in the sideback's zone.
The new through-pass is excellent, I love it. I also think my team-mates makes more and better runs, but sometimes they stand still or makes runs in completely wrong directions. I also noticed that if I have the ball on the side with no teammates in front of me, I'm standing still waiting for the sideback and the sidemidfielder to come up overlapping and making runs forward, but both are just standing still 3 metres behind me. That's frustrating... I've seen this kind of movement in almost every footballgame I watch, is's almost the first team-move you learn as a footballer, but it's not implemented in this game.
Fatigue levels are also very frustrating. I've to change my whole team from game to game, as their performances drop significantly if they are a little tired. The sidebacks are worse, they can only play one half... That's ridiculous, knowing a lot of sidebacks in real life play almost every game a whole season.
Some games are just ment for losing. Your players get overrun by slower opponents all the time, your passes doesn't reach your teammates, and when tackling, the ball always goes to another attacker. When in a fight for an air-ball, your player falls down, the opponent takes the ball. Frustrating, but it's kinda like real-life. Some matches or halfs are just really bad. You come out to the second half playing another game...

Apart from this, a really good game Guess I'll be playing for some months now, I've already uninstalled FIFA07, but I really hope there will be a patch fixing at least some of those things I mentioned. If not, I hope someone can tweak it?

 

[Sleepwalker]

I like PES6 very much, mainly for the tons of little actions you can perform and the the fact that when the ball is in play, it doesn't seem scripted. I know some of you think it DOES, but I just don't see it. The outcome of every action I take on the pitch is influenced by so many factors, that you are never sure. One of my best scenes in the game was yesterday. A sidemidfielder got the ball with a little bit of luck and decided to lob it into the penalty box. Instead of heading the ball I took a step back with my striker, and with his chest he passed the ball to an incoming second strike, who let it bounce and then fired a terrific half volley, from a difficult angle. The ball went just wide.

The thing is: PES5 is a great game too, as is PES4 etc. The thing about evolution is that the progress goes slow! Of course PES6 is not perfect. If it was, there would be no need for an evolution anymore. That's why the title of this game is acurately chosen: there is always something that can be bettered, sometimes you only experience that after a while.

It's good to strive for perfection, but beware of dicontent becoming a habit. The only solution to that is not playing the game.

I, for one, couldn't be without it anymore. Well, kind of.

 

[Mario02]

I have just installed the game, played a couple of matches, and loved the new gameplay. i think it´s much better gameplay than pes5, although i have to get used to it.
The graphics are pretty much the same, but it´s ok for me, the game runs smoothly, and i dont have a new pc, it runs better than pes5 on it.
I was reading other posts and opinions are very different, but for me, the game is a step forward in the right direction.

 

[niceman]

Shooting the ball over the stadium from the penalty mark isn't that cool, guess I've never seen that in a real fotball-game.

Well i recall a penalty kick from Beckham in a torunament for England where the ball came down on the parkering lot

PES gameplay is really good i like it...all the other stuff is for kids...