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PES4 stats related with FM2005 characters 1 by 1,IMO

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pubb

Youth Team
We can use the option file I uploaded and just play. If you want more 'correct' team, you can edit yourself following my formula or what you think is better.
 
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pubb

Youth Team
How about this convertion results? Liverpool and Juventus. I've tweaked all of the problem mentioned here. Balance, shoot power, jump, shoot technique, and so on.

Read them with no 'word wrap' in your text editor. And be careful for your eyes...
 
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ikkenenderikke

Youth Team
Just a little suggestion (maybe it's allready been mentioned in here so don't shoot me if it has):
why not make a converter where people can choose their own conversion formulas? That way, everybody can do as he pleases. It can't be that hard to make the formulas editable in the program. Just a suggestion...
 
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pubb

Youth Team
ikkenenderikke said:
Just a little suggestion (maybe it's allready been mentioned in here so don't shoot me if it has):
why not make a converter where people can choose their own conversion formulas? That way, everybody can do as he pleases. It can't be that hard to make the formulas editable in the program. Just a suggestion...
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This is a good suggestion. But maybe Yannick has no time to implement.
I think the biggest challenge now is to discover FM2005's new data file format.
 
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ikkenenderikke

Youth Team
kschoice said:
I wonder what this statement is based on...
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As I study informatics at university, I think I can tell. The conversion algorithms are in there anyway. Making them editable is not that difficult. Or just reading them in from an external file or something, should be possible to implement.
 
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kschoice

Youth Team
ikkenenderikke said:
As I study informatics at university, I think I can tell. The conversion algorithms are in there anyway. Making them editable is not that difficult. Or just reading them in from an external file or something, should be possible to implement.
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Conversion algorithm is in there, but unless you are able to patch compiled code by hand, I don't think there's much you can edit about it. Reading them from an external file is indeed possible, but that's a long shot from "not difficult", and a big work related to such a result. And even then, it wouldn't be as customizable as code itself.
As I wrote the editor, I think I can tell.
 
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clements

Club Supporter
u guys might also wanna chk out this site..
http://verter.grinster.net/
it also allows conversion of FM stats to WE/PES
i'm not sure what formula is used in the conversion, but it's pretty accurate

kschoice, u might wanna contact the author and maybe work with him to come up with the "perfect" formula for the conversion for the next version of ur editor

cheers! :)
 
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kschoice

Youth Team
clements said:
u guys might also wanna chk out this site..
http://verter.grinster.net/
it also allows conversion of FM stats to WE/PES
i'm not sure what formula is used in the conversion, but it's pretty accurate

kschoice, u might wanna contact the author and maybe work with him to come up with the "perfect" formula for the conversion for the next version of ur editor

cheers! :)
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I already am about to release a new version including a conversion engine entirely rewritten by pubb.
 
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pubb

Youth Team
clements said:
u guys might also wanna chk out this site..
http://verter.grinster.net/
it also allows conversion of FM stats to WE/PES
i'm not sure what formula is used in the conversion, but it's pretty accurate

kschoice, u might wanna contact the author and maybe work with him to come up with the "perfect" formula for the conversion for the next version of ur editor

cheers! :)
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Good site and good engine. But how can I contact the author?
 
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clements

Club Supporter
pubb said:
Good site and good engine. But how can I contact the author?
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was wondering about that as well initially.. but since kschoice is coming up with a newer version of his editor based on your formula, we'll just see how things go from there (Y)
 
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thenerdgod

Club Supporter
kschoice said:
I don't really like the sound of that.
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No offence meant brother. What I mean was that it is difficult to make you implement a suggestion and pubb has actually done it so well done to him :)

Your editor is by far one of the best in the community and even so, there is always room for improvement. Maybe the programmer's mentality is of an elitist since the programmer is God and I am sure like you mention 1 million times that you know the code and therefore things are not possible so congrats to pubb for actually making you change something in your program and thank you to you for releasing your editor.
 
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Kalenkki

Club Supporter
Stats are looking good. You should improve those players free kick accuracy who kick free kicks in real life. E.g Geremi is in your stats best free kicker in Chelsea. I don´t think so.
 
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kschoice

Youth Team
Kalenkki said:
Stats are looking good. You should improve those players free kick accuracy who kick free kicks in real life. E.g Geremi is in your stats best free kicker in Chelsea. I don´t think so.
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Oh my god ! Do you really think that I actually converted all the players, then went through all of them to check the results, and actually even considered the fact that Geremi would or would not be the best free kicker in Chelsea ? I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT GEREMI'S STATS ARE WHEN CONVERTED, I don't even know the stats for other Chelsea players, for god's sake, and have you even wondered if you have the same database than me ?

And if I did do all that, wouldn't it be a little harsh to annihilate all that work for your different view on ONE player ?

ONE LAST TIME, THOSE ARE NOT MY STATS !!!!! Even less now the conversion engine has been rewritten by someone else.

Those are Championship Manager / Football Manager stats converted as good as possible as PES stats. You're not happy with players' free kick abilities ? Tweak them yourself ! It's not meant to be perfect, because it can't be.

To thenerdgod :

I hope you can realize with this kind of message why I didn't want to agree on every little change that was asked on the conversion. I told you at least 10 times that I would include a new conversion engine if someone would provide me with it, I've done it, no more, no less. You don't even know how much time I worked with pubb on it. So believe me, I did understand what you meant with your first message, and I still find it quite inappropriate for you to complain on how it is difficult to make me change something in my program. By the way, if I had done everything (well, not everything, because it was sometimes even conflicting) people asked me about the conversion, there would have been dozens of versions and not a single improvement in the rest of the editor.
 
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kingpug

BANNED
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All I can say is well done, imo this is far superior to the old conversion system, now good players like Lampard have good stats, I a happy and will convert alot of players to FM stats, where as before I only had some.

But I agree, the chances of getting the conversion 100% perfect is 6 million/1.

I dont even think the FM stats are 100% perfect in the first place, nevermind the conversion.

I also agree with tweaking it yourself, obviously you aint gonna agree with every stas converted, and it takes seconds to change the stat, or go into your game and make them default again, but whining about something like freekicks aint the way to go.

So like I said, well done, dont take note of these people who aint happy because Lampard should have 87 balance instead of 88.
 
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