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[OckHAM]

I frankly can't see the point and the problem.

 

[nickclubman]

Actually imo the config.dat file need not contain the ai.ini file ,what the config.dat file does is it overrides any values present in the ai.ini present in ini.big.it is perfectly possible to put an empty ai.ini file in the config.dat so that the game uses the variables from the ini.big file.The point i am trying to make here is Ockham.u can release only a config.dat(with an empty ai.ini ) file urself while NK need provide only ini.big files,that way u dont have to depend upon changing ur config.dat file for each of NK's updates.
u can try it urself just empty the contents of the ai.ini file and then attach it to config.dat,the game will then use ai variables frm in.big
hope i have made myself clear.

nope, if you put an empty AI file into the config.dat you wouldn't see any CPU subs.
NK.

 

[RicFlair]

There are new career.ini settings for the CEP if you are interested in a CEP compatible version for the new release that will be published saturday, so mail me when you need it.

Ock - just so I am clear - when your new update comes out - I install it and then install NK's GP patch and check the CEP compatible circle...correct? this will give me your stats - right? Now, is this what NK is doing? when he keeps telling us how great his new patch is - is he using CEP compatible? I just wanna make sure I get his GP installed correctly.

 

[mutiger]

Some thoughts on v4

Hey Nick...

It's been a while...and I know V5 is well underway...but just had a chance to play about four or five games in a row for the first time in quite a while using V4...and I've got to say...I was doubting you for a while...but I've got to say you are right on track.

As always...your gameplays have a great deal of depth to them...and v4 was no different. After grasping some of the nuances...the pace of the game...the lack of room given by the CPU defense...the shooting...etc. I have been able to really play this game...and have been really thrilled with the results. Playing as ManU against Rangers...gave up an own goal by Ferdinand in the 49th minute...and was bogged down against a tough defense. But pressing forward in a 4-3-3 with Saha on as a substitute...I began to stretch that defense...and freed up Rooney at the top of the "D". He stepped quickly to his left...and with a quick jink freed himself to rip a shot from just beyond the top of the box. Waterreuss was wrong footed...and the ball just flew in past the near post. A great 1-1 game in the start of my "G20" League.

Then a couple of exhibitions...AC Milan against Siena. Gilardino scored on the first trip down the field scoring low left of the keeper from 18 yards out straight on. Siena scored a beauty on 32 minutes...and the game seemed to be coming to a draw. But late on I shifted into an aggressive mode...and Gilardino sprinted down the left channel in the 90th minute. As he ran...I noticed the midfielders didn't follow Schevchenko who was running down the middle of the field. Despite the presence of the right wing back...the right center back was watching Gilardino. I swung wide and then placed a high cross over the RCB's head...and Schevvy rose right on cue and blasted a header that just scraped the underside of the cross bar and rattled home on the last kick of the game. My first win against your nasty patch!!!!

Then I wanted to test the chages the Lyon squad has gone through with my roster update...so I randomised an opponent and came up with AS Nancy. This was a blow out from the start. Malouda scoring on rebound from a Fred shot in the 33rd minute...then Fred scoring on a rebound from a Gouvou canon blast in the 45th minute. Then..with Nancy pressing forward in the 85th minute...Gouvou went on an electrifying 60 yard run down the right wing...cut inside the last defender and drilled a shot inito the lower left corner. Perhaps the prettiest goal I've ever scored. Yet...despite the 3-0 final score line...the shots on goal were 8-6..and Nancy had several spells of good possession and had some good shots that were well-saved. Despite an "easy" victory...I never felt totally at ease.

Thisis great feeling stuff. The CPU really works to hang on to the ball...and builds attacks...and true to the real game...there are several periods in every game where you feel under siege...and have to defend at your best. Long shots...both yours and the computers...can be tricky and are an important part of the game again. The shooting is just about right on and you have mentioned shooting is often rewarded with goals. No more out shooting your opponent 18-0 and settling for a 0-0 draw.

The only criticism...and it's only slight...is that the computer forwards seem to be very adept at defending in the defensive end...causing some unrealistic ice hockey type of "forechecking"...I saw this in an earlier post...so I know you know about it.

I know this isn't short...and I hope you can get something out of this Nick...but V4 is a thing of beauty. I know you'll continue working and tweaking and improving...and I'll be there. Great stuff!

Cheers,
mutiger

 

[nickclubman]

Hey Nick...

It's been a while...and I know V5 is well underway...but just had a chance to play about four or five games in a row for the first time in quite a while using V4...and I've got to say...I was doubting you for a while...but I've got to say you are right on track.

As always...your gameplays have a great deal of depth to them...and v4 was no different. After grasping some of the nuances...the pace of the game...the lack of room given by the CPU defense...the shooting...etc. I have been able to really play this game...and have been really thrilled with the results. Playing as ManU against Rangers...gave up an own goal by Ferdinand in the 49th minute...and was bogged down against a tough defense. But pressing forward in a 4-3-3 with Saha on as a substitute...I began to stretch that defense...and freed up Rooney at the top of the "D". He stepped quickly to his left...and with a quick jink freed himself to rip a shot from just beyond the top of the box. Waterreuss was wrong footed...and the ball just flew in past the near post. A great 1-1 game in the start of my "G20" League.

Then a couple of exhibitions...AC Milan against Siena. Gilardino scored on the first trip down the field scoring low left of the keeper from 18 yards out straight on. Siena scored a beauty on 32 minutes...and the game seemed to be coming to a draw. But late on I shifted into an aggressive mode...and Gilardino sprinted down the left channel in the 90th minute. As he ran...I noticed the midfielders didn't follow Schevchenko who was running down the middle of the field. Despite the presence of the right wing back...the right center back was watching Gilardino. I swung wide and then placed a high cross over the RCB's head...and Schevvy rose right on cue and blasted a header that just scraped the underside of the cross bar and rattled home on the last kick of the game. My first win against your nasty patch!!!!

Then I wanted to test the chages the Lyon squad has gone through with my roster update...so I randomised an opponent and came up with AS Nancy. This was a blow out from the start. Malouda scoring on rebound from a Fred shot in the 33rd minute...then Fred scoring on a rebound from a Gouvou canon blast in the 45th minute. Then..with Nancy pressing forward in the 85th minute...Gouvou went on an electrifying 60 yard run down the right wing...cut inside the last defender and drilled a shot inito the lower left corner. Perhaps the prettiest goal I've ever scored. Yet...despite the 3-0 final score line...the shots on goal were 8-6..and Nancy had several spells of good possession and had some good shots that were well-saved. Despite an "easy" victory...I never felt totally at ease.

Thisis great feeling stuff. The CPU really works to hang on to the ball...and builds attacks...and true to the real game...there are several periods in every game where you feel under siege...and have to defend at your best. Long shots...both yours and the computers...can be tricky and are an important part of the game again. The shooting is just about right on and you have mentioned shooting is often rewarded with goals. No more out shooting your opponent 18-0 and settling for a 0-0 draw.

The only criticism...and it's only slight...is that the computer forwards seem to be very adept at defending in the defensive end...causing some unrealistic ice hockey type of "forechecking"...I saw this in an earlier post...so I know you know about it.

I know this isn't short...and I hope you can get something out of this Nick...but V4 is a thing of beauty. I know you'll continue working and tweaking and improving...and I'll be there. Great stuff!

Cheers,
mutiger

Mutiger ma' boy!! Haha, wicked feedback dude I love it how you have gone through somewhat a 'learning curve' to become better acquainted with the difficulty of v4. It takes some getting used to! V4 takes some skill.

V5 however is more playable and yes more realistic. The defending, attacking and lots of other 'football' things have been tweaked and as I have said a few times, a couple of the files were 're-done' from the original EA SPORTS files, rather than carrying on from v4 to offer the best realism I could! I've watched numerous of football sources and gathered plenty of info to make v5 the best!!

If you loved v3, enjoyed v4...then v5 will be the update you've being waiting for!! again though, it'll take some getting used to!!

NK.

 

[ExittheLemming]

I've always loved the attacking options in the NK gameplay patches (the ball is just the right weight) but find defending on even Pro level basically impossible....
So, as a little experiment I pasted the "defensive tuning" parameters from Biggy's (easier) patch into your own and voila....it's still bloody hard but at least I can now defend again. If anyone wants to try this it can be done easily using notepad and importing the amended ai.ini file back into ini.big using BigGUI program.

 

[nickclubman]

I've always loved the attacking options in the NK gameplay patches (the ball is just the right weight) but find defending on even Pro level basically impossible....
So, as a little experiment I pasted the "defensive tuning" parameters from Biggy's (easier) patch into your own and voila....it's still bloody hard but at least I can now defend again. If anyone wants to try this it can be done easily using notepad and importing the amended ai.ini file back into ini.big using BigGUI program.

Thanks for the feedback man, I'm making the game much more playable, but challenging! I believe V5 to be my greatest acheivement yet!

Defending is a skill in its own that you must learn to a much greater level, or you will be destroyed by the excellent attacking teams that are usually composed of 5 star, 4 star ratings with a relatively good creativity, although real Madrid are an exception cause every play is so individual and bloody good!!

NK.

 

[nickclubman]

check out this amazing goal scored by yours truly NK!! World Class goal by Frank Lampard; Let me run you through the goal. Beckham takes a corner, Owen gets his head to the ball and the Brzail National defender heads the ball away but it comes straight to Lampard. I powered up the shot and watched it go flying past the players', SMACK the post and for what seemed like a minute, I thought it wasn't going in, then I hear the crowd roar and the commentators start SCREAMING!! i hit the windows key and stick on record to get this realtime recording of a brilliant game!!!!!! V5 lets you score goals like this, but rarely!! You'll score some scorchers that'll have you feeling rewarded, but man this type of goal I have NEVER scored before. Just look at the way the ball bounces

Take it easy guys
CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD THE GOAL!! (WMV)

NK.

 

[nickclubman]

Confirmed release date

<b>V5 Is Going To Be Released On The 14th April, Next Friday</b>

 

[Mattwinter]

Wow that's a nice goal, interesting that it's another long goal that hits the woodwork - this tends to happen more than goals going in without hitting the posts... in all the different gameplay's I've tried anyway.

But a nice goal, and I'm really looking forward to this patch, only criticisim i still have is that it still sounds very difficult, so I'm hoping there is more variation between difficulty levels.

 

[nickclubman]

Wow that's a nice goal, interesting that it's another long goal that hits the woodwork - this tends to happen more than goals going in without hitting the posts... in all the different gameplay's I've tried anyway.

But a nice goal, and I'm really looking forward to this patch, only criticisim i still have is that it still sounds very difficult, so I'm hoping there is more variation between difficulty levels.

It is difficult, quite a challenging update! V5 is no different from my others in terms of being challenging, but I believe V5 to be challenging for many of the right reasons. Beating the defence is very challenging, but beating the keeper can be done with skill, not luck. Keepers aren't superhuman no more.

NK.

 

[simpson]

I frankly can't see the point and the problem.

Sometimes some guys including me like to mess around with our own preferred ai settings,but if i used a config.dat that contained ai settings then those settings would everride my edited ai settings in the ini.big file.so if u used a config.dat with empty ai.ini then we could have the best of both worlds,our own edited ai settings loaded from the ini.big file and ur edited career and common settings deom config file.that way ur config.dat file can be used by any person who uses his own ai settings and not worry about editing the config.dat file.

nope, if you put an empty AI file into the config.dat you wouldn't see any CPU subs.
NK.

Nope the cpu always subs in my game ,never had a prob with that.maybe u have kept subs off in the ini.big file

 

[Luis Ah-Hoy]

NK


I decided to experiment thoroughly your GPU (version 4.0) this night, and i have to say that i loved the way the CPU is playing now... in a much more diverse and inteligent way...

But my problem now is that, i played in Legendary difficulty... and the results were

*3-1 (i won playing Juve against Spurs; without much effort)
*2-1 (i won playing Juve against Real Madrid; very easy win... they didn't troubled me much)
*5-1 (i won playing Juve against AC Milan; most disapoiting game... AC Milan looked like a team of the Third Division or something like that )


That's really a blow for me, bcoz i was expecting a much more challenging patch, taking in account that i was playing in the Legendary difficulty... i hope version 5.0 is much harder than this one... CPU has to be more agressive both in defence and attack...
But anyway, a very interesting patch...

 

[nickclubman]

NK


I decided to experiment thoroughly your GPU (version 4.0) this night, and i have to say that i loved the way the CPU is playing now... in a much more diverse and inteligent way...

But my problem now is that, i played in Legendary difficulty... and the results were

*3-1 (i won playing Juve against Spurs; without much effort)
*2-1 (i won playing Juve against Real Madrid; very easy win... they didn't troubled me much)
*5-1 (i won playing Juve against AC Milan; most disapoiting game... AC Milan looked like a team of the Third Division or something like that )


That's really a blow for me, bcoz i was expecting a much more challenging patch, taking in account that i was playing in the Legendary difficulty... i hope version 5.0 is much harder than this one... CPU has to be more agressive both in defence and attack...
But anyway, a very interesting patch...

Thanks for the feedback man, and yes V5 is more difficult but also much more diverse. The intensity of the matches is far greater now, the CPU will attack and keep attacking until they get what they want!! If they have to defend then they will do so and be very good at it.

It's still in development, and will be released on the 14th, but for now it is playing much better than v4.

Thanks man,
NK.

 

[Luis Ah-Hoy]

Sounds great man... can't wait!

 

[nickclubman]

I have now given players' more space on the field to create more, run more with the ball, have more time and freedom. But breaking the defence is still very difficult!

this is playing great!
NK.

 

[10Ruud]

Great idea...I'm not a super pro and I just couldn't hang on to the ball and when I did have it I couldn't do much with it...I hope more space on the field is what I need otherwise I guess i just need more practice.

 

[exerslow]

I was thinking about that today NK, that the field may be too small and so there is no room. I was watching some EPL and trying to see how long it took to run and how much space there was from sideline to box and whatnot. There was a patch on some FIFA site for this very thing that I saw once upon a time.

Sounds like you were thinking the same thing.

Dave

 

[nickclubman]

V5 is so dynamic! Some games will be 4-4, 5-5, HIGH scoring games full of awesome goals and excitment!!!! The CPU will really start to hammer at you and you will hammer at them!! Some games will be tight, really tight and not many chances. I lost as barca v real madrid 6-0 on world class, than beat spurs with man-u 4-3!!!! It just goes to show how it works out.

NK.

 

[OckHAM]

Mmmmm, 4-4? 5-5? 6-0? 4-3? Are we talking about football? These results should be EXTREMELY rare..