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Manchester United Thread [2004-2005]
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Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has called on his Manchester United team-mates to show 100 percent commitment next season as they attempt to win back the Premiership trophy they last lifted in 2003.
The popular Norwegian striker has been a frustrated viewer on the sidelines this season as he continues to recover from a serious knee injury, with his last appearance for The Red Devils being last year's FA Cup final against Millwall.
He remains one of Old Trafford's favourite sons however, and has urged the team to show more commitment in pursuit of silverware next time around.
United have now finished in third in the last two league campaigns, a state of affairs that is not satisfactory for one of the world's biggest sides.
The 32-year-old blamed two exceptional seasons from Arsenal and Chelsea in succession for the underperformance, although also indicated that some members of the current squad would have to take a look at their own efforts in the coming weeks.
"We've been unlucky in that we've been on the receiving end of two unbelievable seasons - Arsenal last year and Chelsea this time. So we've got it all to do," Solskjaer told The Sunday Times.
"We can win the league next year if everybody pulls in the same direction, thinks about Man United, sticks together.
"We're a new team but we've all got to know each other now, so fight for your team-mate.
"Give 100 percent. Commitment's what's needed.
"Everyone can look at themselves in the mirror and a player knows if they've been 100 percent committed.
"If some, after this season, end up saying, 'Well, I've not been committed', that's something they can learn from.
"But it's two years on the trot where we haven't won the league.
"Next year we have to make it ours. The fans will be desperate for it to happen.
"Next year I'm going to show my bouncebackability as a player, and the team will too."
Solskjaer is targeting an emotional return in August, and admitted to be looking forward to playing alongside the club's new star, and his son Noah's favourite player, Wayne Rooney.
The England star is one of Sir Alex Ferguson's great hopes for the future, and Solskjaer also enthused over another of Old Trafford's young aces, Darren Fletcher.
"[Rooney is] Noah's favourite now - isn't that hard for a dad to take?" Solskjaer continued.
"I've played with some great players here, [Eric] Cantona, Scholesy, Keano. Now I want to play with Wayne..
"When he [Fletcher] played his first game for the reserves, I played with him.
"He was 16 and it was against Everton. It's great to see him come through and be as good as he now is.
"He's the most consistent of the younger players. He doesn't capture the headlines, he's got absolutely no personal agendas, he's not, like, 'Look, here I am!' when he's on the pitch.
"He just goes out and performs for the team."
http://footballmsn.skysports.com/li...e:+Show+more+commitment&channel=Football_Home
Yesterdays news but i post it anyway!
Cant wait for next season to begin!
The popular Norwegian striker has been a frustrated viewer on the sidelines this season as he continues to recover from a serious knee injury, with his last appearance for The Red Devils being last year's FA Cup final against Millwall.
He remains one of Old Trafford's favourite sons however, and has urged the team to show more commitment in pursuit of silverware next time around.
United have now finished in third in the last two league campaigns, a state of affairs that is not satisfactory for one of the world's biggest sides.
The 32-year-old blamed two exceptional seasons from Arsenal and Chelsea in succession for the underperformance, although also indicated that some members of the current squad would have to take a look at their own efforts in the coming weeks.
"We've been unlucky in that we've been on the receiving end of two unbelievable seasons - Arsenal last year and Chelsea this time. So we've got it all to do," Solskjaer told The Sunday Times.
"We can win the league next year if everybody pulls in the same direction, thinks about Man United, sticks together.
"We're a new team but we've all got to know each other now, so fight for your team-mate.
"Give 100 percent. Commitment's what's needed.
"Everyone can look at themselves in the mirror and a player knows if they've been 100 percent committed.
"If some, after this season, end up saying, 'Well, I've not been committed', that's something they can learn from.
"But it's two years on the trot where we haven't won the league.
"Next year we have to make it ours. The fans will be desperate for it to happen.
"Next year I'm going to show my bouncebackability as a player, and the team will too."
Solskjaer is targeting an emotional return in August, and admitted to be looking forward to playing alongside the club's new star, and his son Noah's favourite player, Wayne Rooney.
The England star is one of Sir Alex Ferguson's great hopes for the future, and Solskjaer also enthused over another of Old Trafford's young aces, Darren Fletcher.
"[Rooney is] Noah's favourite now - isn't that hard for a dad to take?" Solskjaer continued.
"I've played with some great players here, [Eric] Cantona, Scholesy, Keano. Now I want to play with Wayne..
"When he [Fletcher] played his first game for the reserves, I played with him.
"He was 16 and it was against Everton. It's great to see him come through and be as good as he now is.
"He's the most consistent of the younger players. He doesn't capture the headlines, he's got absolutely no personal agendas, he's not, like, 'Look, here I am!' when he's on the pitch.
"He just goes out and performs for the team."
http://footballmsn.skysports.com/li...e:+Show+more+commitment&channel=Football_Home
Yesterdays news but i post it anyway!
Cant wait for next season to begin!
criminals vs. rich thievesBobby said:
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Gonna be one hell of a robbery in Cardiff, the thieves will come through though, because they've got a plan before committing a crime and they got resources, unlike criminals who just run in and try to grab what they can. They got lucky so far, but soon very soon it will run out.
b-ytter said:Well one title each is nice!
Try to get the treble,then we discuss!!
Good answer
Glazer makes his offer
What surprises me is how he says that he might now buy any more shares after that June 13th deadline...maybe he will need another loan to buy them. He will get to a max of around 83% of the shares in this case. Shareholders United are reporting that the number of people joining them has grown significantly since the takeover was officially announced.
Without their shares, he will constantly feel resistance of some kind or the other...demonstrations, protests,etc.
The repayment figures that have been worked out for the £275 million loan from JP Morgan secured against Manchester United are:
£55 million - payable over seven years at 2.75% above LIBOR (London InterBank Offered Rate). Repayment cost - £90 million.
£62.5 million - 50% payable over seven years, six months, 50% payable over eight years at 3.25% above LIBOR. Repayment cost - £110 million.
£62.5 million - 50% payable over eight years, six months, 50% payable over nine years at 3.75% above LIBOR. Repayment cost - £128 million.
£85 million - payable by April 2015 at 6.5% above LIBOR. Repayment cost - £242 million.
-skysports.com
What surprises me is how he says that he might now buy any more shares after that June 13th deadline...maybe he will need another loan to buy them. He will get to a max of around 83% of the shares in this case. Shareholders United are reporting that the number of people joining them has grown significantly since the takeover was officially announced.
Without their shares, he will constantly feel resistance of some kind or the other...demonstrations, protests,etc.
The repayment figures that have been worked out for the £275 million loan from JP Morgan secured against Manchester United are:
£55 million - payable over seven years at 2.75% above LIBOR (London InterBank Offered Rate). Repayment cost - £90 million.
£62.5 million - 50% payable over seven years, six months, 50% payable over eight years at 3.25% above LIBOR. Repayment cost - £110 million.
£62.5 million - 50% payable over eight years, six months, 50% payable over nine years at 3.75% above LIBOR. Repayment cost - £128 million.
£85 million - payable by April 2015 at 6.5% above LIBOR. Repayment cost - £242 million.
-skysports.com
United need 2 sell some players tat not even showed wat thet can do n some tat not even played in the 1st team....but the most important thing is 2 get a player tat is deadly in dead ball situation...which mean a good free kick taker,corner kick n creative..tat can make a pass tat can split a defence
Too bad that only Beckham comes up for that kind of situations. We did start playing more attrative football since David left, but less goals. Man i hope something will happen and Ronaldo will suddenly become so good at crosses and passes, that Beckham himself will envy him.
this infuriates me. from soccernet.com
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Glazer details £790m Man Utd takeover
Malcolm Glazer tonight laid bare the extraordinary details of the borrowings required to complete his £790million takeover of Manchester United.
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers owner has already stated he intends to use United's assets as security against a £265million loan from bankers JP Morgan.
But, in the details of his formal offer document which was released to shareholders on behalf of Red Football today, Glazer has revealed a succession of steepling interest charges that take the approximate overall cost of the money lent on that loan alone to a massive £570million.
And that figure does not include a bridging loan of £18.9million which has to be paid back in March next year, plus another £90million as a credit and capital expenditure facility, which had never previously been mentioned and could be used to fund the much-heralded stadium expansion.
And there is still another £275million in preferred securities, which it is anticipated he will refinance almost as soon as the deal is done.
If United fans were shaky about the prospect of the 76-year-old American business tycoon running their club prior to Saturday's FA Cup final defeat to Arsenal, those fears will be acutely exacerbated now, with it estimated that the club's debt alone will turn out to be an horrific £650million, over six times the amount which almost sent Leeds to the wall.
It confirms why Red Devils chief executive David Gill described Glazer's business plan as `aggressive' and `potentially damaging' to the long-term interests of the club.
Yet, amazingly, Gill is likely to be charged with delivering the massively increased profits Glazer is convinced are available to the world's most profitable soccer club.
Within the offer document was again confirmation that the Glazer family wanted to work with the current management and a statement that not all the four current board members of Red Football - Joel and Avi Glazer, Mitchell Nusbaum and William Sondericker - will sit on United's board.
It is becoming clear though, that Joel, a 38-year-old graduate from American University in Washington, will patrol the Glazer family interests in the Old Trafford outfit.
Having taken a 76.2% stake in United, shareholder reaction to the offer document is largely irrelevant, although a deadline of 3pm on Monday, June 13 has been imposed.
The following morning, Red Football will confirm precise details of their stake in United. It is then envisaged Glazer will apply to cancel United's Stock Market listing on June 22.
It had been anticipated an informal statement to supporters from Joel Glazer would be incorporated within the offer document, but those rumours proved to be wide of the mark.
Instead, Glazer is likely to keep his counsel, at least until the share sale deadline has expired and possibly the delisting announcement before making any public utterances.
By then, the full scale of United's debt burden will have sunk in and Glazer will need to persuade supporters of the validity of his plans.
The £275million has been divided into four parts, £55million, two lots of £62.5million and £85million, with repayments taking between seven and 10 years at a rate between 2.75% and 6.5% above base rate.
Although the base rate is low - around two percent - the premiums are still huge and impossible to pay back without a massive increase in present profits.
The most recent half-year figure for United was £8.1million in March and after a third-place Barclays Premiership finish and another early exit from Europe, there is no immediate rise in prospect.
On the basis that the Glazers are far too astute to just throw their money away, precise details of their plans are awaited with eager anticipation.
It is has already been suggested that the price of corporate tickets will rise significantly, while there could also be the possibility of a naming rights package involving Old Trafford.
There has also been talk of a franchising arrangement allowing companies such as McDonalds to have stores inside the ground.
Glazer will also be keen to raise the percentage of turnover coming from overseas.
Of the £159million United earned last year, only £9million was spent from outside the United Kingdom, a paltry return on the club's vast global support.
It also appears inevitable that Glazer will attempt to alter the structure of the current television contract, either by wrecking it completely through a court challenge or by forcing the Premier League to allow United a greater percentage of income.
Glazer is expected to go before the NFL finance committee, of which he is a member, to explain the deal when team owners meet in Washington tomorrow.
The repayment figures are worked out as follows:
Debt repayment terms of the £275million loan from JP Morgan secured against Manchester United.
£55million - payable over seven years at 2.75% above LIBOR (London InterBank Offered Rate). Repayment cost - £90million.
£62.5million - 50% payable over seven years, six months, 50% payable over eight years at 3.25% above LIBOR. Repayment cost - £110million.
£62.5million - 50% payable over eight years, six months, 50% payable over nine years at 3.75% above LIBOR. Repayment cost - £128million.
£85million - payable by April 2015 at 6.5% above LIBOR. Repayment cost - £242million.
LIBOR rate approximately 4.6%.
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we're in debt. serious debt.
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Glazer details £790m Man Utd takeover
Malcolm Glazer tonight laid bare the extraordinary details of the borrowings required to complete his £790million takeover of Manchester United.
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers owner has already stated he intends to use United's assets as security against a £265million loan from bankers JP Morgan.
But, in the details of his formal offer document which was released to shareholders on behalf of Red Football today, Glazer has revealed a succession of steepling interest charges that take the approximate overall cost of the money lent on that loan alone to a massive £570million.
And that figure does not include a bridging loan of £18.9million which has to be paid back in March next year, plus another £90million as a credit and capital expenditure facility, which had never previously been mentioned and could be used to fund the much-heralded stadium expansion.
And there is still another £275million in preferred securities, which it is anticipated he will refinance almost as soon as the deal is done.
If United fans were shaky about the prospect of the 76-year-old American business tycoon running their club prior to Saturday's FA Cup final defeat to Arsenal, those fears will be acutely exacerbated now, with it estimated that the club's debt alone will turn out to be an horrific £650million, over six times the amount which almost sent Leeds to the wall.
It confirms why Red Devils chief executive David Gill described Glazer's business plan as `aggressive' and `potentially damaging' to the long-term interests of the club.
Yet, amazingly, Gill is likely to be charged with delivering the massively increased profits Glazer is convinced are available to the world's most profitable soccer club.
Within the offer document was again confirmation that the Glazer family wanted to work with the current management and a statement that not all the four current board members of Red Football - Joel and Avi Glazer, Mitchell Nusbaum and William Sondericker - will sit on United's board.
It is becoming clear though, that Joel, a 38-year-old graduate from American University in Washington, will patrol the Glazer family interests in the Old Trafford outfit.
Having taken a 76.2% stake in United, shareholder reaction to the offer document is largely irrelevant, although a deadline of 3pm on Monday, June 13 has been imposed.
The following morning, Red Football will confirm precise details of their stake in United. It is then envisaged Glazer will apply to cancel United's Stock Market listing on June 22.
It had been anticipated an informal statement to supporters from Joel Glazer would be incorporated within the offer document, but those rumours proved to be wide of the mark.
Instead, Glazer is likely to keep his counsel, at least until the share sale deadline has expired and possibly the delisting announcement before making any public utterances.
By then, the full scale of United's debt burden will have sunk in and Glazer will need to persuade supporters of the validity of his plans.
The £275million has been divided into four parts, £55million, two lots of £62.5million and £85million, with repayments taking between seven and 10 years at a rate between 2.75% and 6.5% above base rate.
Although the base rate is low - around two percent - the premiums are still huge and impossible to pay back without a massive increase in present profits.
The most recent half-year figure for United was £8.1million in March and after a third-place Barclays Premiership finish and another early exit from Europe, there is no immediate rise in prospect.
On the basis that the Glazers are far too astute to just throw their money away, precise details of their plans are awaited with eager anticipation.
It is has already been suggested that the price of corporate tickets will rise significantly, while there could also be the possibility of a naming rights package involving Old Trafford.
There has also been talk of a franchising arrangement allowing companies such as McDonalds to have stores inside the ground.
Glazer will also be keen to raise the percentage of turnover coming from overseas.
Of the £159million United earned last year, only £9million was spent from outside the United Kingdom, a paltry return on the club's vast global support.
It also appears inevitable that Glazer will attempt to alter the structure of the current television contract, either by wrecking it completely through a court challenge or by forcing the Premier League to allow United a greater percentage of income.
Glazer is expected to go before the NFL finance committee, of which he is a member, to explain the deal when team owners meet in Washington tomorrow.
The repayment figures are worked out as follows:
Debt repayment terms of the £275million loan from JP Morgan secured against Manchester United.
£55million - payable over seven years at 2.75% above LIBOR (London InterBank Offered Rate). Repayment cost - £90million.
£62.5million - 50% payable over seven years, six months, 50% payable over eight years at 3.25% above LIBOR. Repayment cost - £110million.
£62.5million - 50% payable over eight years, six months, 50% payable over nine years at 3.75% above LIBOR. Repayment cost - £128million.
£85million - payable by April 2015 at 6.5% above LIBOR. Repayment cost - £242million.
LIBOR rate approximately 4.6%.
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we're in debt. serious debt.
shrekiejai
Reserve Team
It is near impossible to make those payments.... 
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