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Fix for Team Experience bug in Manager Mode

StevePitts

Senior Squad
question_id;2879906 said:
FF10DUMP (v1.03.04B) - structured DB/career file dump for FIFA 10
As noted more than once elsewhere, this is not the latest version (although that won't affect your situation at all since the logic you are using dates back to FIFA 07). If you check the email that I sent you originally you will find two forwarded messages, the second with details of the update.

The two outputs are pretty much exactly what I'd expected to see, so it seems that everything is working as desired and my guess was spot on.

question_id said:
is it possible to undo this fix
FF10DUMP takes a backup copy of the saved game file before updating it, and you can always revert to that, but there is no point because it is irreparably damaged and will never work with the game (which is why my fix exists).

question_id said:
i want to keep the 30 player limitation. otherwise i tend to go overboard buying and scouting players :)
The limitation in FIFA 10 is 45 players and that is hard-coded into the game (and no, the INI file parameter does not affect the shape of the saved game file). I need to change the text in the EAFFAnalyser dialog because the limit was 30 for previous versions.

The problems you encountered are generally caused by loaning out players. If you don't do that then the game stops you from signing more than 45 players. If you have players out on loan then that check ignores those players in counting the 45, which it should not. It is also possible to end up with problems when loaned out players return even if you've never got anywhere near the limit, so the issue is with loaning out more than anything else.
 

SoulSeekerHS

Club Supporter
Would love to get in on the testing, as this is quiet a serious bug...

Wouldnt it be easyer to give a download link? Upload once to rapidshare or whatever and give everyone the link?
Well, your call ;-)
 

StevePitts

Senior Squad
SoulSeekerHS;2881036 said:
Would love to get in on the testing, as this is quiet a serious bug...
Check your inbox and let me know how you get on

SoulSeekerHS said:
Wouldnt it be easyer to give a download link?
As you will discover when you read the email, it is already accessible to download over the web, but because the tool is still in a beta state (mainly because I can't find the time to update the documentation to an appropriate level) I prefer if everyone that uses it has to ask for it and let's me have an email address so that I can send out any fixes that prove necessary.
 

SoulSeekerHS

Club Supporter
StevePitts;2881712 said:
Check your inbox and let me know how you get on

Thank you very much. Its staggering how much work some people put in to helping others and doing the work EA should pay good money for, just out of kindness... and loving the challenge I suppose =)

Will let you know if I have any trouble.

2 Minor and purely cosmetic notes:

-A sub folder in the program directory, leaving only the GUI exe and the read me files in the main folder, would make it less cluttered and look more professional.

-The analysis CSVs should really be called different... FF10ANAL_career just sounds wrong. :-p

StevePitts;2881712 said:
As you will discover when you read the email, it is already accessible to download over the web, but because the tool is still in a beta state (mainly because I can't find the time to update the documentation to an appropriate level) I prefer if everyone that uses it has to ask for it and let's me have an email address so that I can send out any fixes that prove necessary.
Makes sense. Just felt bad that you had to reply to every schmuck asking for the fruit of your labor. :)


EDIT: Allready at 70 team chemistry. Very good job! Thank you SO much.
 

StevePitts

Senior Squad
SoulSeekerHS;2881722 said:
just out of kindness... and loving the challenge I suppose =)
A mixture of the fun of decoding the game data, a desire for more information about what is going on than the game gives me, and a touch of altruism (since I don't use the GUI myself, just the console mode programs).

SoulSeekerHS said:
A sub folder in the program directory, leaving only the GUI exe and the read me files in the main folder, would make it less cluttered and look more professional
and would also guarantee me a regular diet of support requests from folk that expanded the archive into a single folder instead of maintaining the structure. If the distribution were an installer .EXE (or an .MSI) then I could impose more structure, but my reasons for not doing that are documented (see the Getting Started section of the Read Me), so I stick with a flat layout. I agree with your suggestion, but since I can't even find the time to update the usage guide properly I'm unlikely to get to the chore of creating and testing an installer.

SoulSeekerHS said:
The analysis CSVs should really be called different... FF10ANAL_career just sounds wrong. :-p
You can change that value to anything you like, but I have to choose a default, and since the programs have really moved on from dumping data to analysing and fixing it instead, I went with a shortened form of analysis. Besides, some folk are very anal about their careers, so it fits ;)

SoulSeekerHS said:
Just felt bad that you had to reply to every schmuck asking for the fruit of your labor. :)
It takes a matter of a couple of minutes to add each new requestor to my Eudora address book and forward on the email and I can live with that expenditure of time since I often end up having elongated email conversations with people, which rarely have anything much to do with issues with the program. Whilst some folk can be obnoxious the vast majority are friendly and I get the chance to swap stories with people from all around the world.
 

eduloko

Club Supporter
Thanks!

Hi Steve, your Analyser fixed the experience bug. I'm playing a new season with Barca and team chemistry is already in 65.

Thanks for sharing your work with the community, I really appreciate it. Respect!

Cheers mate!(Y)
 

StevePitts

Senior Squad
mzain90;2885863 said:
a friend of mine sent it to me (to fix the team chemistry bug)
Did he send you the original package (a ZIP file with 45 files in it)?? If not then something might be missing, but as noted above everything is stored in a single flat directory. Just to be sure I've emailed you the download instructions and perhaps you could follow those and let me know if there is still a problem.

mzain90 said:
when i hit start analysis it gives an error "Error in CreateProcess for ff10dump program"
Weird. I've searched through my notes, forum posts and emails I cannot find any previous reference to that call failing (all it is doing is running FF10DUMP with a bunch of switches that reflect the options that you've selected). Unfortunately I don't output the error code in that dialog and that is something that I need to change.

mzain90 said:
i haven't applied any patch to the eaffutilities
That won't make any difference because EAFFAnalyser hasn't changed since the original beta release back in February. The patches have only changed the underlying FF10DUMP that does all the work, but your error message relates to invoking that program so it hasn't got as far as that.

BTW are you running under Windows 7?? I've never tested EAFFAnalyser under anything later than Windows XP, so I guess there could be issues there. One thing I notice from your screenshot is that the main dialog is not fully displayed but instead has scrollbars. That should not happen, so it looks like I need to revisit the dialog sizing code that takes account of different screen resolutions.
 

mzain90

Club Supporter
in addition to the mail:
it worked for my friend on windows 7,
i've tried disabling the anti-virus
i've tried compatibility mode.

i guess fifa holds a grudge against me
 

StevePitts

Senior Squad
All those that have requested access to EAFFAnalyser, either here or via PM/email should have received an email by now, so please let me know if you feel I've missed you out.

mzain90;2886193 said:
i guess fifa holds a grudge against me
I think FIFA holds a grudge against most of us :) but I doubt that that plays into this. I sent you an email on Sunday morning (UK time) which I'm guessing from your recent message to me that you didn't receive. I have tried again with a subtle rename of the attachment (which is a ZIP with an EXE in it) and if that doesn't get through either then please let me know (via email) and I'll upload it to my web space and send you a link instead.
 

Shayaant

Club Supporter
I've played almost 4 seasons with liverpool and my chemistry hasn't improved more than 61. Also i've seen slavia prague in ecc in two different. some kind of glitch.8|
steve, please help me, i badly need eaff analyser to resolve this chemistry problem. Here's my email:$
[email protected]
 

Shayaant

Club Supporter
I've played almost 4 seasons with liverpool and my chemistry hasn't improved more than 61. Also i've seen slavia prague in ecc in two different. some kind of glitch.8|
steve, please help me, i badly need eaff analyser to resolve this chemistry problem. Here's my email:$
[email protected]
 

StevePitts

Senior Squad
All those that have requested access to the beta version of EAFFAnalyser, whether via PM, email or posting in this thread, should have received the details by now, so let me know if you think you've been missed out

Shayaant;2894088 said:
I've played almost 4 seasons with liverpool and my chemistry hasn't improved more than 61
With the game as shipped, it can never do so. I've sent you details of the fix and hopefully this will help your team bond better :)

Shayaant said:
i've seen slavia prague in ecc in two different. some kind of glitch
Are you playing with an unmodified database?? If so then I'd love to get a copy of a manager mode data file with that issue extant. If you have modified your database then I'd still be interested but if you have changed the ID of either the ECC or EFA leagues, so that you can play them in the first season, then what you are seeing is only to be expected and there is little point in my reviewing your database.
 

hkirin1

Club Supporter
i'd like to have that fix. i play with leeds united came back to premiership but stupid team chemistry never goes over 61. please if you can help me and send those file, very appreciate your effort!

[email protected]
 


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