My Toronto Exchange Thread [ P | R ]

[Joe]

Well I wasn't wanting to tell her then and there at Thanksgiving anyway, the atmosphere was really bad.

It's because it was un-American.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

I've known her since July 14 2006. It was a Bastille soiree that I first saw her. We helped each other out in organising this whole exchange here. Well I wasn't wanting to tell her then and there at Thanksgiving anyway, the atmosphere was really bad. I have no idea if she ever felt the same way, we get on really well, but as with even friendships there are ups and downs. But overall we were quite friendly i think. Waiting for so long to tell her wasn't the best decision i made either, it was too long lol. Well of course I'm not going to pressure her, I have more important things to do.

Okay, so it wasn't going too fast, it was going way too slow. That shows lack of confidence and initiative and is just as unattractive. Girls either feel IT with you or they don't. If you are in the friend box it is virtually impossible to get out. They run on feelings. It might make sense that you guys date, but girls don't make decisions like these logically. You were her friend for too long.

 

[Joe]

Or there was never anything more than a friendship bond to begin with...

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Or there was never anything more than a friendship bond to begin with...

That's kind of what I was saying.

 

[RobbieD_PL]

Okay, so it wasn't going too fast, it was going way too slow. That shows lack of confidence and initiative and is just as unattractive. Girls either feel IT with you or they don't. If you are in the friend box it is virtually impossible to get out. They run on feelings. It might make sense that you guys date, but girls don't make decisions like these logically. You were her friend for too long.

Well I think it was a lack of confidence, but I always felt like I would be doing her wrong, that I would upset her each time I wanted to tell her how I felt, so I never did. And even when I did tell her this w/e, I had to dilute my words. Even though i felt so strongly and warm for her, I always wanted to put her first. I don't know how to describe that, but i felt like I didn't want to hurt her, I just wanted her to be happy. I can't tell 100% if it was just friends, but she's not one of those overt types. We had heaps of things in common too so maybe that was either a help or hinderence.

 

[treble41]

Yah, everyone does get an OSAP, but you have to pay back $22000+ after you graduate plus interest plus another loan if you go to a grad school. And I'm not really makin fun of York because of the actual university, we just do it cos it's fun. Even York kids have a laugh.

 

[Joe]

Well I think it was a lack of confidence, but I always felt like I would be doing her wrong, that I would upset her each time I wanted to tell her how I felt, so I never did. Even though i felt so strongly and warm for her, I always wanted to put her first. I don't know how to describe that, but i felt like I didn't want to hurt her, I just wanted her to be happy. I can't tell 100% if it was just friends, but she's not one of those overt types. We had heaps of things in common too so maybe that was either a help or hinderence.

Dude, that's just how life works I feel. And my next line will confirm my emoness:

I always thought the most agonizing part of human relationships is unanswered love.

People talk about drugs ******* up people? No, unanswered love makes people do ****ed up things...it makes me sad just hearing your story because it reminds me of those times. If only the girl would realize how much you (probably) care about her and want the best for her and give you a chance.

Love is also why I don't believe in evolution.

 

[Tom]

Well you know what they say, the opposite of love is indifference - not hate.

Kinda agree to be honest.

 

[Joe]

Well you know what they say, the opposite of love is indifference - not hate.

Kinda agree to be honest.

Agreed.

But love can intensify indifference turning love into hate (e.g. a spiteful boyfriend/girlfriend).

Yup...slow day at work.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Well you know what they say, the opposite of love is indifference - not hate.

Totally agree Tom. It's like those volatile relationships where the people are always madly in love, or passionately fighting. They never breakup though.

 

[RobbieD_PL]

Dude, that's just how life works I feel. And my next line will confirm my emoness:

I always thought the most agonizing part of human relationships is unanswered love.

People talk about drugs ******* up people? No, unanswered love makes people do ****ed up things...it makes me sad just hearing your story because it reminds me of those times. If only the girl would realize how much you (probably) care about her and want the best for her and give you a chance.

Love is also why I don't believe in evolution.

Mate, truer words have not been spoken.

 

[bigp]

Yah, everyone does get an OSAP, but you have to pay back $22000+ after you graduate plus interest plus another loan if you go to a grad school. And I'm not really makin fun of York because of the actual university, we just do it cos it's fun. Even York kids have a laugh.

Well duh. Going to University is an investment. If your friends felt that UofT is such a prestigious uni then they wouldve borrowed the money and pay it back later because going to UofT means you will make $3892894289342892 per year since it's so high class.

And I know about the rivalry between York and UofT but York people don't really care. It's the UofT snobs who have to keep on telling everyone that they are so great.

And Robbie. You go to YORK! Ranked No.2 university in North America with the hottest chicks. You'll be gone in Dec. so have some fun and **** some other broads. This girl isn't your gf or anything and you already been friendzoned. There are PLENTY of other chicks at York.

 

[RobbieD_PL]

But I've always wanted that perfect girl. I don't want to lose my virginity to some random.

 

[Joe]

Oh god...

 

[RobbieD_PL]

Oh god...

Is that meant to mean that all girls are random untill you get to know them?

 

[Back Door Skip]

Oh come on, dude. You're acting like a girl now. Losing your virginity shouldn't be this huge celebration, you'll probably suck at it anyway. It's better to get it out of the way, then get the experience, so then you don't look at it as such a big deal.

You idealize sex, it's really NOT that big a deal. If it were, you'd never masturbate because you'd feel obligated to marry yourself or some****. Anyway, my point is, as long as you don't pay for it, or bang the ugliest, fattest bitch in the school, you should be fine. It's not that big a deal. Trust me.

 

[itsbeenpickedup]

If the girl is also a virgin you should probably forget about enjoying your first time anyway (and maybe the next few times after that too...). Just get it over with.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

You idealize sex, it's really NOT that big a deal.

Just for perspective, back in the old Shifty virgin days I told girls "we can do everything except have sex" because I had some weird blockage about it. It's not a big deal dude, it really isn't. There is nothing sacred about sticking your cock into a pussy. It can get kinda gross, there's all this white stuff that drips down onto you (or the sheets depending on position) and sometimes it's boring because it's the same damn in-and-out, in-and-out over and over again. You try to liven it up by switching speeds and positions, but it can get mundane at times. And then if you really like the girl you feel obligated to last longer than you physically should, so you find yourself staring at the Justin Timberlake poster on your bedroom wall (that's actually the reason I have one on my wall, seriously). It's no big deal. And the first time is going to be awkward anyway. You probably won't be comfortable moving her into another position, so it's all missionary, and you won't know any technique, so it's probably even more mundane than boring sex for people who know what they're doing.

EDIT: I'm not suggesting sex sucks. Far from it. It's just not sacred.

 

[RobbieD_PL]

Just for perspective, back in the old Shifty virgin days I told girls "we can do everything except have sex" because I had some weird blockage about it. It's not a big deal dude, it really isn't. There is nothing sacred about sticking your cock into a pussy. It can get kinda gross, there's all this white stuff that drips down onto you (or the sheets depending on position) and sometimes it's boring because it's the same damn in-and-out, in-and-out over and over again. You try to liven it up by switching speeds and positions, but it can get mundane at times. And then if you really like the girl you feel obligated to last longer than you physically should, so you find yourself staring at the Justin Timberlake poster on your bedroom wall (that's actually the reason I have one on my wall, seriously). It's no big deal. And the first time is going to be awkward anyway. You probably won't be comfortable moving her into another position, so it's all missionary, and you won't know any technique, so it's probably even more mundane than boring sex for people who know what they're doing.

EDIT: I'm not suggesting sex sucks. Far from it. It's just not sacred.

Yes I know that there's this physical side of sex lol. But isn't there anything like passion or emotion that can be demonstrated thru making love or is this just consisting of reflexes untill the cumshot.

EDIT: I guess I just want to be something more than just a porn-star lol . All these feelings that I have for her... but then I think that she doesn't feel the same Damn. It's like mo matter what I've done over this past year it's like it counts for nothing. All I ever did was just for her to be happy. Those were those expectations, it was as if nothing I ever did was special. Just to see her beautiful smile, to look into those sky blue eyes where I thought I could see heaven, where I could see happiness and freedom. Do you think it feels good to be depressed around her? Of course not; I want her to feel the best about herself when she's with me, not that she's a girl eho broke my heart after waiting for so long and even then it wasn't the right time. It's like I have to supress my feelings for her like I always did before. My feelings don't matter and when I try to think that they do I just shoot myself down as a selfish bastard.

 

[RobbieD_PL]

Guys, I felt so ****ty last night, and today morning more of the same. I just want to explain myself to her. I just dont know what to do anymore to make things better. Should I apologise for telling the truth? No, that's just stupid, but I just dont know anymore