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Use of technology! Is it nessesary? Why?

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::Jason::

Starting XI
this hanek's going quite weak..

In ice-hockey the system works really well, since there are situations, where there's no other option than to go double-check what happened, just like in the Hockey World Championships last year (were in Finland btw :) ), when Canada's winning goal was being watched on tape for quite awhile.
I totally understand the difference between the two sports, it all starts from playing areas, in football - it's all the world. Football is played in poor areas too, where there would never be possibilities for videotechnology.
In big matches it really should be used in my opinion, but that would make the rules of the game a tad different in different matches, and that would make no sense on the other hand.

so propably there's no chance to get video technology, but maybe that's just the way it's meant.

How 'bout using it only on the big finals? Like the worldcup-final and CL final, where a bad mistake of the ref could cause riots..
 
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rhizome17

Fan Favourite
WHat is funny is that all of these complaints occurred from rugby fans before vid tech was introduced.

After it was introduced, noone complains about it, and just talk about how wonderful it is to have it.
 
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::Jason::

Starting XI
well, atleast you stick to your point of view instead of following the SG herd.. (Y)

I remember you talking about this technology thing before..
 
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rhizome17

Fan Favourite
Well, I just don't get the point of some of the arguments for not letting it in, when there are obviously situations where it would help immensely. Like you say, World Cup finals. If a team won a WC final with a goal from an offside position that the ref missed but was there for all to see on TV, who would actually believe that the team were fair and square World Champions? Noone.

Those who argue that football should stick to its traditional roots - well then why the hell are we not still playing it as a mass game between villages, on the road that links the two of them? Because the game has progressed, and vid tech would simply be a part of that progression.

I want football results to be fair and accurate, not based on a decision that resulted from human error. Thats the whole point - refs are human and need some help. I am sick and tired of dodgy penalty decisions, goals from offside, disallowed goals from non-offsides, diving from players who earn thousands of pounds and are meant to have the respect of fans, and managers denying they saw anything wrong.

At least when I watch a game of rugby, I know the result will usually be a fair reflection of what actually happened.
 
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KoreaJjang

Senior Squad
I think that If Football is damn too STRICK then It won't be very fun to watch everytime Refree blow whistle for little foul
 
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claupastore

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Originally posted by rhizome17

Those who argue that football should stick to its traditional roots - well then why the hell are we not still playing it as a mass game between villages, on the road that links the two of them? Because the game has progressed, and vid tech would simply be a part of that progression.
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i dont know where you are from, but where im from they still do that.
ta ta
 
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claupastore

Fan Favourite
Originally posted by Yossarian
i dont know where you are from, but where im from they still do that.

LOL

claupastore is very funny. I'm assuming English isn't his mother tongue, he's got a very wry sense of humor. Great command of the English language
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your assumption is correct my friend
english is my third tongue

spanish
italian
english

and why would that be a wry sense of humor???? :confused:
i wasnt kidding, its the truth!
 
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valioso

Fan Favourite
human error is part of the sport, and is part of the beauty of the sport, there is no reason to change it.. yes we all get pissed when a call goes against our team.. but we dont say anything when we get a freebie either.. so it should stay the way it is.. about people that say there is too much money and all that.. the money came with the sport being what it is today.. I really dont understand the need to americanize everything... in the NFL it works because those pauses are part of the game anyway. Football is a fast paced sport with no breaks.. and therefore it makes refereing harder.. get better train professional refs and maybe it wouldnt happen as much, don't let refs from unprofessional leagues with no high stakes training, like the dopes that reffed in quarters in the wc to spain, and stuff like that wouldnt happen.. take politics out of the sport, and it would not happen as much either.. there are other things that could be done before "americanizing" the sport.
 
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Spurs4Life

Starting XI
Originally posted by valioso
human error is part of the sport, and is part of the beauty of the sport, there is no reason to change it.. yes we all get pissed when a call goes against our team.. but we dont say anything when we get a freebie either.. so it should stay the way it is.. about people that say there is too much money and all that.. the money came with the sport being what it is today.. I really dont understand the need to americanize everything... in the NFL it works because those pauses are part of the game anyway. Football is a fast paced sport with no breaks.. and therefore it makes refereing harder.. get better train professional refs and maybe it wouldnt happen as much, don't let refs from unprofessional leagues with no high stakes training, like the dopes that reffed in quarters in the wc to spain, and stuff like that wouldnt happen.. take politics out of the sport, and it would not happen as much either.. there are other things that could be done before "americanizing" the sport.
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Exactly. Couldnt of said it better myself, this is what ive been trying to say but ive been putting it badly. Americanizing football would kill the game like i said before NFL is a strategy based sport and football/soccer is a fast paced non stop action sport, so the TV replay's just wouldnt work.
 
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hanek45

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OK.
Video tchnology is helpfull. Ok for the ones who proposed that it should be only used in finals, remember, what if the team that made it to the finals, made it to the finals because a freking error?? The biggest and deppressing example: WC Semi-Finals
1)Germany-USA. That game was sick, i dont remember well but I think it was defender T Linke or Frings that stopped USAs goal WITH HIS HAND!!!:f***:
what in the world is that?? Thats ******* hilarious! And what did the mother****er in yelow said: nothing!! 2)Spain-Korea. Now this is the other disgrecefull example. 4 offsides were marked by the ******* assistant! And those offsides were meant to be goals! Just as Helgura said after the game: "Este mundial de asco! Ha sido un robo autentico, sientes que te han hechado a los arbitros" (in english basically means that the WC referees practically ******* suck cock). Two teams that werent supposed to qualify, qualified! The story would have been so different! Probably Brazil would have won! Spain had such a team! Damnit, i just can imagine that FIFA is still allowing this kind of bull****!!

This is still happening, u ppl cant deny it... Do you want this bull**** to happen?? Then, the alternative answer is video tech.

Less pasion, less (all the things u mentioned), maybe, but those errors are more thatn pasion.
Am i weak? say whatever u ******* want Jason. :kader: :kader: :kader:
 
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claupastore

Fan Favourite
Originally posted by hanek45
"Este mundial de asco! Ha sido un robo autentico, sientes que te han hechado a los arbitros" (in english basically means that the WC referees practically ******* suck cock).
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actually it has nothing to do with sucking cock.
"this WC makes me puke. its been a clear robbery. you feel like the refs were onto you"


well if you dont want those erros again, then dont let bad ref's to participate in the WC or in any important game.

like a famous song said


"VIDEO KILLED THE FOTOBALL STAR"
i changed the lyrics a bit :)
 
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rhizome17

Fan Favourite
Introducing video refs is NOT about Americanising the sport of football, I don't know why you guys think it is. If by 'Americanising' you mean making the game fairer, then I am all for it.

But it isn't anything of the kind. The flow of the game will not be changed at all. If a goal results from an offside move, then that can be called and play resumes from a goalkick or whatever. NOTHING has changed. All it means is that the refs only make a call on something like that when it is obviously offside, otherwise they wait for the replay. The game would be stopped anyway.

Watch a rugby game instead of just focusing on the NFL as your comparison. There you will see how video technology can be used affectively. It is noyt like there is a continual stop-start element to the game now, rather the video ref is called on when a try has been scored but the ref suspects something may not be right, or in open play when his angle is not the best for seeing exactly who infringed the rules. I mean it, watch a game and see how it can be integrated with no effect on the 'flow' of the game.

Anyway, it is players diving who interrupt the flow of the game more than anything.
 
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::Jason::

Starting XI
Originally posted by valioso
human error is part of the sport, and is part of the beauty of the sport, there is no reason to change it.. yes we all get pissed when a call goes against our team.. but we dont say anything when we get a freebie either.. so it should stay the way it is.. about people that say there is too much money and all that.. the money came with the sport being what it is today.. I really dont understand the need to americanize everything... in the NFL it works because those pauses are part of the game anyway. Football is a fast paced sport with no breaks.. and therefore it makes refereing harder.. get better train professional refs and maybe it wouldnt happen as much, don't let refs from unprofessional leagues with no high stakes training, like the dopes that reffed in quarters in the wc to spain, and stuff like that wouldnt happen.. take politics out of the sport, and it would not happen as much either.. there are other things that could be done before "americanizing" the sport.
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so you really think that all the 'errors' favouring Real Madrid make the sport more beautiful too.. :brow:

You really seem to be serious. (Y)
 
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Spurs4Life

Starting XI
Football will never be Americanised, so don't worry it wont change. Only thing that will change is a goal line camera to see whethere the ball crossed the line or not, thats the only video replay that has been debated.
 
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bigp

Reserve Team
I think that refs should be held accountable for their actions. It seems like they don't care if they make any mistakes or not. Like the Milan game today where the ref added 7 min of extra time. He should be punished somehow for this. The NHL is doing this with their refs so why not soccer.

And they could also put 2 refs on the field in each half so that the ref doesn't have to make calls from 20 metres out. This would make it easier to make the right call as the refs don't seem to be in shape to catch up on some of the plays
 
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