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Turkey’s future lies within the Khilafah State and not the EU

kobashi

Reserve Team
http://www.hizb.org.uk/

Comment: Turkey’s future lies within the Khilafah State and not the EU

October 03, 2005

As crisis talks are due to start regarding Turkey joining the EU opinion polls from across Europe show a clear opposition to full Turkish membership. In a poll by Sky News over 70% voted no to the question should Turkey be allowed to join the EU? This signals the overwhelming feeling in Europe that Turkey which has a majority Muslim population should not be allowed to join the EU which until now has been made up of only majority Christian populations. In a similar poll carried out in France in 2004 in which the majority of people opposed Turkey joining the EU, 30% of participants objected on the basis of cultural differences.

The opposition to Turkey joining the EU is without doubt based on the simple fact that it is a Muslim nation, which also includes a great Islamic tradition as it was for many centuries the centre of the Uthmani Khilafah State (Ottoman State). Even though the current Turkish ruling elite have been committed to a secular system, going as far as banning the Hijab in government buildings such as universities it still sits on the sidelines of European politics. The man responsible for shaping the future constitution of the EU former French President Valery Giscard d'Estaing told Le Monde Newspaper in 2002 that Turkey joining the EU would be “the end of the Europe.”

Ever since Turkey committed itself to a secular path it has only seen its international standing wither away. Economically it has suffered greatly due to harsh financial measures introduced by the World Bank which were imposed on Turkey so that it would be permitted to take further loans; this caused the Turkish currency to be devalued. Turkey’s population lacks cohesion as the people find their Islamic values in contrast with the secular system imposed upon them, this was highlighted by the ban on the hijab which was met by fierce resistance.

It has become evident that whatever the Turkish ruling elite does to try and gain acceptance and membership within the EU it finds the door slammed in its face. The future of Turkey lies in the Khilafah State which gave this country glory and honour making it the leading nation in the world for centuries.
 

Hendrik

Team Captain
It's a shame that all the EU members don't listen to their people, maybe except Austria but they have little to say regarding this.

The majority opposes Turkey joining the EU now and in 10 or 15 years.
 
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Virgo

Guest
kobashi said:
http://www.hizb.org.uk/

Comment: Turkey’s future lies within the Khilafah State and not the EU

October 03, 2005

As crisis talks are due to start regarding Turkey joining the EU opinion polls from across Europe show a clear opposition to full Turkish membership. In a poll by Sky News over 70% voted no to the question should Turkey be allowed to join the EU? This signals the overwhelming feeling in Europe that Turkey which has a majority Muslim population should not be allowed to join the EU which until now has been made up of only majority Christian populations. In a similar poll carried out in France in 2004 in which the majority of people opposed Turkey joining the EU, 30% of participants objected on the basis of cultural differences.

The opposition to Turkey joining the EU is without doubt based on the simple fact that it is a Muslim nation, which also includes a great Islamic tradition as it was for many centuries the centre of the Uthmani Khilafah State (Ottoman State). Even though the current Turkish ruling elite have been committed to a secular system, going as far as banning the Hijab in government buildings such as universities it still sits on the sidelines of European politics. The man responsible for shaping the future constitution of the EU former French President Valery Giscard d'Estaing told Le Monde Newspaper in 2002 that Turkey joining the EU would be “the end of the Europe.”

Ever since Turkey committed itself to a secular path it has only seen its international standing wither away. Economically it has suffered greatly due to harsh financial measures introduced by the World Bank which were imposed on Turkey so that it would be permitted to take further loans; this caused the Turkish currency to be devalued. Turkey’s population lacks cohesion as the people find their Islamic values in contrast with the secular system imposed upon them, this was highlighted by the ban on the hijab which was met by fierce resistance.

It has become evident that whatever the Turkish ruling elite does to try and gain acceptance and membership within the EU it finds the door slammed in its face. The future of Turkey lies in the Khilafah State which gave this country glory and honour making it the leading nation in the world for centuries.


yeah that's nice, how about them "local football team"?
 

INFESTA

Official
Hey, didn't we only allow countries with democratic systems which are democratic in the EU?

Part of me thinks this is a bad idea and part of me says we should allow them to joined us. Come on, fellow portuguese, another country more poor than us! (Y)
 

Áļéאָ

Fan Favourite
yip, thats true. What is also true is that the americans did everything they could to get them in the EU. And as long as they want them in *I wonders why...* they are gonna be in. A shame realy, its the begining of the end of the european union being actualy "europe"
 

Hendrik

Team Captain
mixafendis said:
yip, thats true. What is also true is that the americans did everything they could to get them in the EU. And as long as they want them in *I wonders why...* they are gonna be in. A shame realy, its the begining of the end of the european union being actualy "europe"
There will be referenda in France and Austria and any member country can veto it.
It doesn't matter what the US thinks about, they might get their typical ass licking Eastern European countries on their side but that's about it. Turkey won't be joining the EU.

INFESTA said:
Hey, didn't we only allow countries with democratic systems which are democratic in the EU?
It's important that the reforms in Turkey go on in the next years though.

Part of me thinks this is a bad idea and part of me says we should allow them to joined us. Come on, fellow portuguese, another country more poor than us!
The thing that buggers me is the cultural difference between the EU and Turkey/the muslimic world. The EU is based on Christian values.
 

kobashi

Reserve Team
-Vince- said:
There will be referenda in France and Austria and any member country can veto it.
It doesn't matter what the US thinks about, they might get their typical ass licking Eastern European countries on their side but that's about it. Turkey won't be joining the EU.


It's important that the reforms in Turkey go on in the next years though.


The thing that buggers me is the cultural difference between the EU and Turkey/the muslimic world. The EU is based on Christian values.

well i not really sure it matters as the Turkey you see today is not Islamic at all. since Kemal Atuturk (may allah curse his soul) took control. turkey went away from Islam and is now a militant secular state.

europe itself is secular so having the current turkey state in the EU wont really see a huge difference in values.
 
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Virgo

Guest
no really, the question is why do we have a muslim extremist posting propaganda here?
 

Joe Star

Starting XI
kobashi said:
well i not really sure it matters as the Turkey you see today is not Islamic at all. since Kemal Atuturk (may allah curse his soul) took control. turkey went away from Islam and is now a militant secular state.
Correct me if i'm wrong but wasnt it because of him that Turkey did not get carved out among the Allies?
 

kobashi

Reserve Team
because i support an islamic state i am an extremist.

but you supporting a secular state is okay. damn i support political islam, it doesnt mean I don't like any western people.

also Kemal Atuturk helped destory the Ottoman Khilafah State. he was a British/French Agent.

the whole Ottoman State was Carved up.
 

INFESTA

Official
mixafendis said:
yip, thats true. What is also true is that the americans did everything they could to get them in the EU. And as long as they want them in *I wonders why...* they are gonna be in. A shame realy, its the begining of the end of the european union being actualy "europe"

Hey, why do you think they picked Barroso to the presidency of the EU Commission, eh?




kobashi said:
since Kemal Atuturk (may allah curse his soul)

Dude, are you serious with that mambo-jambo? :|
 

kobashi

Reserve Team
INFESTA said:
Hey, why do you think they picked Barroso to the presidency of the EU Commission, eh?






Dude, are you serious with that mambo-jambo? :|

well i see Kemal Atuturk as an enemy of Allah and muslims if thats what your asking.
 
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Virgo

Guest
kobashi said:
because i support an islamic state i am an extremist.

but you supporting a secular state is okay. damn i support political islam, it doesnt mean I don't like any western people.


You made it clear with that post that you're saying the only reason why Turkey is not allowed in the EU is because it's an islamic country.

Now that's not only totally bullsh*t but also it shows that you think that the EU in general has something against muslims. In other words calling us racists.

You're also seemingly blaming the fact that the state doesn't impose a religion to the financial crysis that is being felt all over the world, Turkey obviously included.

I'd also like to know what's really the purpose of this thread because I haven't gotten it yet.
 


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