Thiery Henry switched to handball

[Recrero152]

The refs are to be blamed? so if a player dives and wins a penalty..blame the ref & not the player cuz he didnt spot it. If a player kicks/punches another player & the ref doesnt see it.. blame the ref and not the player.

My point is it does not mean you can cheat and break the rules of the game and justify it as long as it doesnt get spotted by the ref.

The refs are to be blaimed for THIS loss for Ireland, correct. He should've spotted the fouls and stopped play. Despite that it might be the player's fault for commiting the fouls, the referee has the responsibility to stop players from breaking the rules, you can't blaim the player so much for the foul itself, but you can blaim the referee for not stopping him and possibly take out a card

 

[RockShow]

so if i steal from someones home its not stealing until im caught? gimme a break. and whether is was premeditated or not is irrelevant. the rules state that none but the goal-keeper may handle the ball. there is no ambiguities about it. handry handled the ball! he cheated, whether the ref saw it or not is a minor detail.

and of course he said he handled the ball, it would be idiotic to deny fact. he could hardly come out and say"i didnt handle the ball, that video was doctered and thus false". there is no honor in that at all.

and of course he supports a replay, because he knows there is no chance of that happening.

handry is in damage control mode, everything he says now is an attempt to limit the damage his image is suffering from his cheating. and make no mistake, this is big money for someone like handry. why would a company want to sponsor a player that has a bad image for cheating.

 

[silvone]

is becoming very boring all this Henry stuff! Uefa must take some decisions....maybe rematch?

 

[Arnau]

Rematch? that would be stupid.

 

[kp41]

It's obvious that both Fifa and Uefa are happy with that result.

First unfair seeding and then these kind of ****s, I just saw a new angle in TV that proved the line keeper had a complete view of that scene, I just hope that the ref group did that mistake inadvertently.

 

[Zakov]

I don't understand why Henry is getting all this bad rap. Even the Ireland players said that in the same situation, where their team is playing their lives to qualify for the World Cup, that they probably would've done the same. I'm not even a big fan of Henry but all this hypocrisy is just sheer bollocks.

To be fair also, its not like Henry had time to think about the repercussions of using his hand(he'd go like, "oh no, handling this ball would make me public enemy number one!!"), it was instant reaction to control the ball and keep it in play. We've seen countless of times players chest the ball and use their arms in the process to control the ball.

Despite everything, it was STILL a blatant handball but its not the players who call the shots, its the ref.

Remember, Barca last year? Pique handball? I didn't for even one second blame Pique for the decision. It was all up to the ref to blow his damn whistle.

 

[RobbieD_PL]

I agree with you there Nady, thnigs like that, as wrong as they are, are instinctive.

That's exactly why FIFA hides behind the referee having the final decision. Henry may have done something wrong, but it's up to the ref/linesmen to bring justice so to speak and apply the laws of the game in their entirety. If they dont then they must have a reason for doing so, whether not seeing it or whatever. If there was any doubt he should have consulted with his linesmen.

I disagree there, we are not discussing what would happen if it was a PSO or if they had scored again, we are talking about the handball and that goal, the goal and handball fouls are the reasons why France scored and qualified, which in itself is unfair, making it a unfair win and qualification for France, now we don't know what would've happened if it had continued and the referee would do his work, but taking in consideration to that unfair goal which secured France for the World Cup, makes the win itself and qualification for France completely unfair and that they didn't deserve it by not making a proper, by the rules, goal

As said by Fili in the other thread: If Gallas' goal would have been disallowed it still would have been an agregate tie.

so if i steal from someones home its not stealing until im caught? gimme a break. and whether is was premeditated or not is irrelevant. the rules state that none but the goal-keeper may handle the ball. there is no ambiguities about it. handry handled the ball! he cheated, whether the ref saw it or not is a minor detail.

Sad but true. Whether the ref saw it or not is more important than the offence itself. According to FIFA a referee's decision is final.

 

[Dytza]

Here is Henry's statement in full:

"I have said at the time and I will say again that yes I handled the ball.

"I am not a cheat and never have been. It was an instinctive reaction to a ball that was coming extremely fast in a crowded penalty area.

"As a footballer you do not have the luxury of the television to slow the pace of the ball down 100 times to be able to make a conscious decision.

"People are viewing a slow motion version of what happened and not what I or any other footballer faces in the game.

"If people look at it in full speed you will see that it was an instinctive reaction. It is impossible to be anything other than that.

"I have never denied that the ball was controlled with my hand. I told the Irish players, the referee and the media this after the game.

"Naturally I feel embarrassed at the way that we won and feel extremely sorry for the Irish who definitely deserve to be in South Africa.

"Of course the fairest solution would be to replay the game, but it is not in my control.

"There is little more I can do apart from admit that the ball had contact with my hand leading up to our equalising goal and I feel very sorry for the Irish."

 

[RobbieD_PL]

What would you rather him say?

 

[newbie original]

I didn't knew that South Africa will host the Handball World Cup as well

Vive Le France!!!

Vive Le France!!!!!!!

You want a rematch? OK, fine. You got it. Now that you have got your rematch, do you know what ELSE we have to do? We need to get Diego Maradona and the rest of his Argentina 1986 squad together to play England' 1986 team.

Infact, at the club level, we have to get a rematch of Chelsea-Liverpool 2005 when Luis Garcia(thumb sucker) didn't actually score a goal.

Hell, we need to replay EVERY game where there was video evidence of a missed call. Are you ready for that? We have to fix ALL the refereeing mistakes that were EVER made.

Oh, and by we, I mean FIFA.

Vive Le France!!!

 

[pede54]

so if i steal from someones home its not stealing until im caught? gimme a break. and whether is was premeditated or not is irrelevant. the rules state that none but the goal-keeper may handle the ball. there is no ambiguities about it. handry handled the ball! he cheated, whether the ref saw it or not is a minor detail.

and of course he said he handled the ball, it would be idiotic to deny fact. he could hardly come out and say"i didnt handle the ball, that video was doctered and thus false". there is no honor in that at all.

and of course he supports a replay, because he knows there is no chance of that happening.

handry is in damage control mode, everything he says now is an attempt to limit the damage his image is suffering from his cheating. and make no mistake, this is big money for someone like handry. why would a company want to sponsor a player that has a bad image for cheating.

Recrero152....I don't know where in the World you are mate, but the refs job in a football match is to PUNISH the cheats and not to stop them cheating. The choice to cheat or not is made by the player and so the player is wholly responsible.

To think otherwise is to say that you, like a few other wierd people on here actually think that cheating is, or should be accepted as part of the game.

It is strictly agaisnt the rules of the game to cheat. Every player knows that and players with self respect and honour would not even consider doing what Henry did.

Week in and week out I see strikers having to let a ball run over the line because they can't control it. They could use their hands but they choose not to. These people are not cheats. The thought to cheat simply does not enter their heads.

To be a cheat is a flaw is ones personality. There is no temptation that would cause an honest person to cheat.

So to use something as trivial as the result of a football match to justify Henry's actions as acceptable is pretty sad, because the saddest part of this entire saga is actually, that a player known all over the World and previously loved by millions of kids and adults, has been exposed as a dishonest cheat, a liar and is no longer not the example that any parent would want as their child's role model.

That migt not seem important to some of you, but it will when you have kids of your own believe me.

Like Maradona's handball is remembered by everyone (and NOT only by the English), and Zidane's headbutt to Matterazzi will always be hanging over his head, so this action by Henry will live forever in the minds of TRUE sportslovers.

He will always be remembered for this. The World has now seen behind the mask. Only a serious Henry groupie would argue otherwise.

Did this scab ever win Sports personality of the year in England? I think he did. What a joke.

 

[RobbieD_PL]

Granted that Henry is entirely responsible for his blatant handball, but the referee is as culpable for failing to punish the infringement of the rules directly after the fact. The goal could and should have been disallowed. Henry may have been scathed for his handball afterwards, but probably not to such an extent if the incident wouldn't have led directly to France's qualification.

 

[Bobby]

 

[MelvinSmiley]

Looks like Henry has killed someone.
It wasn't a premeditated thing, he touch the ball with the hand, yes, but was something spontaneous. The referee were very bad, there was a clear penalty on Anelka and an off-side before "crime scene".

Boy, you make me sick. I wonder what you´d say about him, if he wasnt playing for your club. And yes, its a crime, if you cheat and rob an whole nation.

 

[Krypton X]

Thierry Henry's Wikipedia page

This page is currently protected from editing due to vandalism.

How his Wikipedia entry looked after the Irish invasion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thierry_Henry&oldid=326715091

Thierry ¨Le ****¨ Henry (French pronunciation: [tjɛʁi ɑ̃ˈʁi]; born 17 August 1977) is a French **** footballer who plays for Spanish La Liga club Barcelona and the ****ing French national team, predominantly as a ****.
Henry was born a **** and remains a ****, Essonne—a suburb of Paris—where he played for an array of local sides as a **** and showed great promise as a ****. He was spotted by AS Monaco in 1990 and signed instantly, making his professional debut in 1994. Good form led to an international call-up in 1998, after which he signed for the Serie A defending champions Juventus. He had a disappointing season playing on the wing, before joining Arsenal for £10.5 million in 1999; the ****.
It was at Arsenal that Henry made his name as a ****. Despite initially struggling in the Premier League, he emerged as Arsenal's top **** for almost every season of his tenure there. Under long-time mentor and coach Arsène Wenger, Henry became a prolific **** and Arsenal's all-time leading **** with 226 goals in all competitions. The **** won two league titles and three FA Cups with the Gunners; he was twice nominated for the FIFA World **** of the Year, was named the PFA Players' **** of the Year twice, and the Football Writers' Association **** of the ****s three times. Henry spent his final two seasons with Arsenal as club captain, leading them to the UEFA Champions League final in 2006. In June 2007, after eight years with Arsenal, he transferred to Barcelona for a fee of €24 million. His first honours with the Catalan club came in 2008–09 when they won the league, cup and Champions League treble; the ****.
Henry has enjoyed similar success with the French national squad, having won the 1998 FIFA World Cup and Euro 2000. In October 2007, he surpassed Michel Platini's record to become France's top **** of all time. Off the pitch, as a result of his own experience, Henry is an active **** against decency and fairness and honour. His footballing style and personality have ensured that he is one of the most commercially marketable ****s in the world; he has been featured in advertisements for Nike, Reebok, Renault, Pepsi and Gillette.

 

[p-aj]

I believe some people don't understand the gravity of Henry's gesture.

What is even worst is that some people wanna win no matter what. I've heard someone saying in this thread "Than we should hate Messi too cause he made us champions with his God-Hand Goal?" ...WTF? Are we encouraging stealing now ?

Also, I've seen other people trying to acquit Henry from all the charges by putting all the blame on the referees. Yes, the referees are to blame as well, but if someone steals something we don't put all the blame on the police just because they didn't caught the thief. Also, what are the chances that Platini has something to do with this ? So let's not blame the referees that much yet, cause the may executed orders.

If FIFA doesn't do anything about this, than they should really quit promoting the whole "FIFA Fair Play" thing during the World Cup as they usually do. I wouldn't put that badge on France's kit at this World Cup ...or maybe they should just change the logo.

 

[RobbieD_PL]

Conspiracy theories are ghey until proven.

 

[p-aj]

Conspiracy theories are ghey until proven.

Like if Platini had something to do with that, someone will ever let us know. Anyway, I think Platini will be very influential in the final decision that FIFA will make.

 

[RuiCosta_10]

If Fifa wanted France so badly in South Africa they would've done the job a few minutes before with Anelka's penalty or in any other play.
**** just happens, that's what this is, Henry has spoken very well, whoever played football for a couple of years understands every word he says on that speech, and i bet that even the Irish can't deny that, it was an instinctive reaction, he just didn't had time to think, it was a very quick moment.

So, to blame Platini, or to make any kind of connection with a compromised referee with France just doesn't seem fair to me. Doesn't seem to fair to me too, to blame Henry, specially after what he said.
Now imagine a rematch, and imagine the precedent this would open. Errors like this one, or so decisive like this one, happens all the time, not always deciding a qualification for a WC, but many times deciding championships, or cup games. Hell, i could think of many and not forcing my memory to much.

 

[cmc211]

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