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There is NO HOPE!!!

SIDK

Club Supporter
No the Realism/Gameplay won't be improved, but what do you expect from a footy-game made in a nation where they don't even call football what it is: FOOTBALL
 

ogsimon

Starting XI
exactly. football is the name of the game. ea see football like american football stops start. but im sorry guys where i come from (london) football is played in a flowing style and is judged on a variety of different skills at a variety of different levels.

FORGET IT EVEN IF I SAY THIS EA TRANSLATE IT AS


BLAH BLAH BLA ..... BLAH BLAH BLAH.... FOOTBALL.....GOOD JOB EA....... DONT CHANGE A THING



THE EASIEST WAY TO SHOW WHERE EA CAN IMRPOVE IS BY PLAYING THEM IN A GAME OF PRO EVO AND SHOWING THEM WHY THAT GAME IS BETTER THAN THEIRS. ALSO TAKING THEM TO A NUMBER OF FOOTBALL GAMES. NIGHT, DAY, RAIN, SNOW, HOT, CHAMPIONS LEAGUE, DOMESTIC. ONLY THE WILL THEY REALISE THE TRUE AND DIFFEREING NATURE OF FOOTBALL




KEY WORDS FOR NEXT GAME: FREEDOM, DIFFERENCE:kader:
 

Goo Goo boy

Senior Squad
the last fifa game i really enjoyed was fifa99! at the time i played iss64 and i prefered fifa because it had so much teams and players, but sometimes i played iss64 too, because it had a good gameplay... that was the last time fifa series were at the same level as konami games..since then...my god.....look at fifa 2002!!it scares me!!:rolleyes: and iss2 just feels like FOOTBALL and it has been released 3years ago!!! i just cant find any explanation why EA is so bad in soccer games....maybe they are just lazy or somethin:rolleyes:

but one thing im sure, if EA release a game that is EXACTLY the same as pes im sure all those fifa fans will say it is the best footy game and that plays better than pes, just because it has the 'EA Sports' symbol in the cover and that stupid slogan 'EA Sports, Its in the game'!!!!

i think it is because of those fans that EA Sports dont bother about doing a good(at least) game, those guys will just keep buying their games, even if they are the biggest crap in the world...

i wonder what does konami have that EA dont...i mean, EA has so much money and they keep doing ****, year after year....Konami must have some kind of magic thing they put into their games, and EA Sports cant find it..EA give us a break and WORK!!!:f***:
 

SIDK

Club Supporter
Dispite the fact that i hate Football teams from London, i must say that ogsimon said something quite important: FLOW

Different leagues have different flows
Example: The high paced english style or the Italian style of play that pisses me off :)
 

valioso

Fan Favourite
I wouldnt say english is fast paced.. but is more direct, a lot of long kicks and run after the ball.. spanish league is fast paced but with control of the ball, and italian is get 1 goal and defend.

anyway, is not the fact that EA is an american company, because most of the developing team was from the UK, but it was a new team last yr, so maybe they just needed the time to adapt, we will all check fifa 2004 demo, I just wish this yr they started releasing the demo much earlier so we can criticize some and they can try to make some adjustments, like Unreal, or other games have done lately. I want a forum where EA developers will answer "real" questions every once in a while. for people that actually ask questions and not like why can I not see nose hairs or stupid ****
 

SIDK

Club Supporter
Is the developers from the UK?
Well either the don't give a f*ck about footy or they haven't been the people rating because the people rating clearly haven't got a clue about what footy is.
 

Iggy

Youth Team
Originally posted by SIDK
Is the developers from the UK?
Well either the don't give a f*ck about footy or they haven't been the people rating because the people rating clearly haven't got a clue about what footy is.

EA - Sports UK have made FIFA 2003 and as you can see, they made big improvment. EA - Sports Canada made every FIFA till FIFA 2003. I don't think that UK people will make peace of crap, cause they know what is football. They made FIFA 2003, and as you could see FIFA 2003 has been crowned like "The best football simulation on all consoles including Computers"...
OK, we should worry, that's natural thing... but, i have optimistic look for FIFA 2004.
 
First off this has nothing to do with how much i ****ing "understand" football "love" football "feel" football or any of the other **** you guys have been saying. I enjoy fifa2003 more then WE just because i do doesnt mean i dont "know" football. Its a matter of opinion not of anything else. If you think someones opinion reflects on if they really understand football then your a naive sack of **** simple as that.:rolleyes:



Its just a damn game your very sad if you spend your time trying to "convert" people to other games.:kader: I mean how ****ing stupid can you be?? I like fifa i dont like WE much how are you all going to waste your time to tell me how your cousins,mothers,fathers,uncles,sisters dont understand the game and try and relate it to a ****ing game??You like the game then fine go play your game but remember 2 things.

1.Dont push it in our faces,and try and tell everyone else there stupid ,no one gives a flying ****


2. ITS JUST A ****ING GAME LET PEOPLE PLAY WHAT THEY WANT!!!



I mean the more i read your replys i wonder HOW ****ING STUPID CAN YOU PEOPLE BE TO TELL ME THAT I DONT KNOW FOOTBALL BECAUSE I LIKE FIFA?? "IF YOU LOVE FOOTBALL,KNOW FOOTBALL YOU MUST LOVE ISS".

I cant begin to explain that answer.........all i can say to try and answer is Its just a ****ing game how ignorant,fanatical,naive can you be?
 

SIDK

Club Supporter
Well, yes it is better than previous versions of FIFA, but it is still not good enough. Instead of trying to compete with previous versions then how about EA Sports trying to compete with PES
 

SIDK

Club Supporter
No im not trying to f*cking convert anyone to PES, it is just the only game you can compare with.

I can't enjoy FIFA2003 because if you don't own a PS2 then you ain't got no f*cking choice, you're stuck with FIFA.
It's not like if you don't like Coca Cola you can choose Pepsi instead, if you own a X-Box and don't like FIFA then it's your own ****ing problem because you don't have much of a choice do you?!
 
Im not talking about most people im talking about people who try and pass there point across by calling fifa fans stupid.
 

ogsimon

Starting XI
and we go back to the title of this topic "There is no hope!!!" not only because of what ea decide but what the fans want also. unfortunately for the football purist as i like to call them there are a lot of people like Ahmedino who like fifa 2003 - no disrespect. the poll at the soccergaming home says that the majority of people see fifa as better than pro evo. now in most ways fifa is better, i have to say. graphics, amount of leagues, crowd atmosphere, player appearance, stadia and sure they could improve more in these area (get the champions league licence). but when it comes down to the most important aspect of all, the football i dont think anyone can honestly deny that what goes on the pitch, in terms of animation, tactics and sheer variety of player ability, that konami are ahead.

with the capacity fifa has and all the licenses they have some people think they are using this advantage to the full. whereas i think the pro evo series has a smaller capacity and it is near the top of it


one more point though. the reason some people want a good game is because they wanna have fun and feel as close to a real football game as possible. only a few gifted can suceed in real football
peace
 

SIDK

Club Supporter
Lets get this straight:
I'm NOT calling FIFA fans stupid, i would be a f*cking w*nker if i judged people by what video games they like.
I'm simply saying that i think its time that EA starts doing a better job with the FIFA games, i simply can't enjoy a game where a AGF player is rated higher than Chivu.

And no im NOT saying that people that like FIFA don't know anything about footy, but i have the impression that the MAKERS of the game really don't care much bout football.
 

hchu

Youth Team
It's not like we stash away money for every converted FIFA player.

Just got time 'till WE6i is coming out, and hoping, like always, that EA would do something good this time.

At the end of the day, if you like FIFA.. too bad.. I really don't care.
Yes, FIFA 2003 is a great improvment over the likes of FIFA2000 and FIFA2001. [I think I actually enjoyed 97, 98, 99...bought 'em all, from '94 up to '02]

The thing I just don't get is, how is FIFA comparable to WE/PES??
I admit FIFA2003 is more playable than the previous FIFAs, but not to like WE/PES and rather favor FIFA2003 is just ...just.... I know I'm not the only one feeling this way.

Forget personal interests, and take a look at both of the games objectively.

Tell me one major thing FIFA has over WE/PES gameplay wise.

I've got a list of at least 30, showing how WE/PES could just
sh@t all over FIFA2003, despite how playable it has became.

If somebody can't come up with more than 3 reasons where FIFA is better than WE/PES.....
Then I just can't see how people claim FIFA to be anyway near playable compared to WE/PES.

Though, I guess this is a personal problem, not being able to understand.

WE/PES is more than just a game. FIFA, I'd say, is just a game and that's how it always felt. But WE/PES actually makes you feel like you're playing the real thing at home... and this is good~ at least for those who enjoy playing football in real life.
 

Goo Goo boy

Senior Squad
hey amehdk m8 i wasnt calling fifa fans stupid, i was just saying that many people buy products because of their name and not because of their quality:(

dont ya agree?
 
Well i wasnt talking to anyone person. But i did go over the top a bit i was just a bit angry that i just heard Mido went to Celta De Vigo.:kader:
 
C

CANADIAN.10

Guest
Originally posted by ahmedk
First off this has nothing to do with how much i ****ing "understand" football "love" football "feel" football or any of the other **** you guys have been saying. I enjoy fifa2003 more then WE just because i do doesnt mean i dont "know" football. Its a matter of opinion not of anything else. If you think someones opinion reflects on if they really understand football then your a naive sack of **** simple as that.:rolleyes:



Its just a damn game your very sad if you spend your time trying to "convert" people to other games.:kader: I mean how ****ing stupid can you be?? I like fifa i dont like WE much how are you all going to waste your time to tell me how your cousins,mothers,fathers,uncles,sisters dont understand the game and try and relate it to a ****ing game??You like the game then fine go play your game but remember 2 things.

1.Dont push it in our faces,and try and tell everyone else there stupid ,no one gives a flying ****


2. ITS JUST A ****ING GAME LET PEOPLE PLAY WHAT THEY WANT!!!



I mean the more i read your replys i wonder HOW ****ING STUPID CAN YOU PEOPLE BE TO TELL ME THAT I DONT KNOW FOOTBALL BECAUSE I LIKE FIFA?? "IF YOU LOVE FOOTBALL,KNOW FOOTBALL YOU MUST LOVE ISS".

I cant begin to explain that answer.........all i can say to try and answer is Its just a ****ing game how ignorant,fanatical,naive can you be?

Are your talking to me? :rolleyes:
 


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