The Workout Thread

[ShiftyPowers]

I've never used a stimulant before working out, but caffiene is extremely cheap (I just bought like 200 pills of 200mg for under $4), and I hear that it makes a difference. I'll suggest it. Beta alanine I guess increases your muscle endurance, so if you combine those two, it might make P90X a little easier.

 

[rhizome17]

Carnitine has always been good to me as well.


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[ShiftyPowers]

Asked around and carnitine is in meat. I think you might be vegan, so you may need it as a supplement, but it would be redundant for me.

Anyway, I'm shooting to clean and jerk my body weight, which will probably be around 180 by the time I work my way up that high. Lifting heavy weights is fun and much less time consuming than the dumbbell workouts I was doing. Anyway, I have been reading and it seems like heavy weight lifting is virtually all one needs to do to get in good shape, but I'm trying to do an okay amount of cardio as well. I live on a hill, so maybe a couple sprints up that for high intensity interval training. Anyway, I've started to do these supersets, which is basically do all these exercises back to back without stopping; I try to do 10 reps of each, but will go 12+ if I feel like it. Because I try not to rest at all, I don't change the weights between sets (only after each super set), so I set my bar at one weight, and then the dumbbells at another weight for curls and military press. As a result some (squats) are easier than others (clean and jerk), so the reps will vary a little.

Clean and jerk
Bench Press
Squats
Shrugs
Curls
Dips
Military Press

Then rest for quite some time. 10 clean and jerk reps are by far the hardest part, and the order is paced to not blast the same muscle group without some rest. I can do 3-4 of these supersets in 30 minutes, and in terms of burning fat it is way more efficient than 2 hours in the gym doing cardio on the treadmill and then hitting each machine with plenty of rest between sets. One thing I'm really trying to do is to not pause during sets; for example I'll go up in 1 second on the bench press, and down for 3 seconds, but never lock my arms at the top.

 

[Alex]

Interesting. I'll be interested to see the results. I'd be concerned that without resting you're not giving muscles the chance to repair themselves and grow. Unless you're really trying to put on bulk, that might not be an issue necessarily, however everything I've read suggests that more muscle = burn more calories at rest.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Your muscles don't repair between sets. I only lift Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Perhaps I was unclear. I'll do cardio after lifting and completely rest Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday. Sunday is very light, like I'll walk 5 miles on a treadmill while watching the first half of an NFL game.

 

[Alex]

Yeah, I guess the issue then is, if you are doing then straight after each other, then you wouldn't (couldn't) be lifting the same as if you were doing them by themselves. Everything I've read on building muscle it's about as heavy weights as possible. Push your muscles strength to the edge. You'd be doing this, but as the muscles are tired, the edge wouldn't be as far.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

But you see, that's the most brilliant part! Let's say you rest for 2 minutes between your sets. So it takes 1 minute to do them and then you rest for 2 minutes. 3 sets would take you 10 minutes and you only work one muscle group, and we all know that we rest for more than 2 minutes.

The superset order is done specifically to rest WHILE you're exercising. I'm resting my legs when I do the bench press, resting my upper body when doing the squats, resting my shoulders when I do biceps and dips (I do girly dips because I don't have parallel bars in my basement, but they're still hard as shit), etc. So if I do all 7 exercises in a minute, then I'm done with a third of my workout in less time than it takes for me to do one exercise, all with the added benefit of getting my heart rate WAY up.

 

[clash]

So I was planning to continue working out after my leg injury and illness. First I thought I'd get my eating right - I stopped eating bread, junk food, processed foods, sweets, stopped drinking alcohol that much etc...what happened? I gained 5 kilos/11 pounds in a month AFTER that, dafuq, body?

 

[ShiftyPowers]

You're probably eating just as many calories of good food. If you're just judging by weight, the type of food you eat doesn't really matter, just the calories. Shitty food is easier to eat a lot of, but if there's something I know a lot about it's stretching out your stomach, so it takes more and more to make you full.

 

[Alex]

Yep, so many people about the shit out of me because they don't get the difference between eating healthy and eating to lose weight. You can do both, but they're not necessarily inclusive terms.

Eating healthy is about a good mix of vitamins, anti-oxidants, fibres etc. Eating to lose weight is all about calorie intake compared to calories burned.

The reason people cut out white bread etc is because it doesn't fill you up (is the biggest no no when you're trying to lose weight), turns straight to sugar (which is fine if it fills you up, but terrible if it doesn't), and offers little nutritional value.

You switch it for things that fill you up more, and have more nutritional value. The problem is, if you eat the same amount of them (in calories/kj/energy), you won't lose weight. Or at least very little..extra fibre may mean your metabolism increases ever so slightly so you burn more. But really you're not going anything to stop weight gain.

You news to switch the white breads etc with things that either fill you up quickly, leave you filled up for a long time, or even better - both. Then you consume less calories, and lose weight.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Easiest way to lose weight is to keep food intake the same or slightly more, but lift heavy weights to burn more calories.

 

[clash]

Thanks a bunch, point taken. I'm as noob as one can be when comes to stuff like this, though it's just using common sense mostly, lol.

 

[Hisashi]

is there a fast way to get fat ??

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Eat. EAT MORE.

You probably aren't eating nearly as much as you think.

 

[AndreaPirlo21]

is there a fast way to get fat ??

Why fat and not muscle?

 

[Hisashi]

Eat. EAT MORE.

You probably aren't eating nearly as much as you think.

I eat more than i should eat but i barely even gain weight oh

Why fat and not muscle?

Nah i dont any muscles i just want a normal body but to get that i need more fats

 

[Alex]

You're Asian, you're meant to be skinny. Especially as a 13yo. If you put on fat too quickly you'll get a fat face and fat belly, but not more overall size.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

I eat more than i should eat but i barely even gain weight oh

Then you aren't eating "more than you should eat". If you eat more than you can metabolize then you will gain weight. EAT MORE.

There are risks, as Alex says.

 

[Mandieta6]

The risks are funny though. Take a picture of yourself every day and afterwards stuff your face with pancake batter.

 

[Alex]

Just only eat anything with glucose, sucrose, or best yet high fructose corn syrup, on the label. You should rarely feel full (just sick and hyperactive) and get fat fast