The "Cristiano Ronaldo's future" saga thread.

[adedawson]

Well that's interesting, he clearly wants to go. I guess its up to SAF now. He's said before he wants to keep him so i wonder if he will stick to that or let him go.

If he sticks to its sure going to be weird having ron around with fans knowing he doesn't want to be there? I can see a few things happening

- SAF will have one of those chats and convince him staying at united will be best

- SAF gets angry and slaps him on the bench like he does proving a point.

- SAF sells him and buys in making the squad stronger

I'm guess he will want to talk soon and go from there

 

[KingPaulV]

Well now that Ronaldo has made his intentions clear I am thinking of wether this was planned all along, this is my theory.

I believe the lad went to United with the ultimate goal of playing in Madrid. I think he renewed his contract last year with the intent of securing his future, should his career not go as planned but in his eyes United was a spring board to Madrid. He grew up partly in the Galacticos Era, he saw the great starts of his youth playing in Madrid and must have decided then he wanted to be the next Galactico; now when he's at the top of his game he decides to make a move. almost like he used Man U.

I may be wrong, but reading the transcript of his post game, when he says that he had decided this prior to the Champions final and that was holding on only because his team was competing, leads me to that conclusion also when he says that this is a dream of his etc...rather interesting lad this C.Ronaldo, I tell you

 

[Capela]

"So, after his worst performances on a major tournament, he's prepared to do what could be he's worst career move."
absolutely seconded

 

[ShearerM4]

Guillem: The little details were won by Germany. You didn’t seem concentrated enough

Ronaldo: I didn’t do anything wrong. I did what I had to do but the team made mistakes and that is why we lost

classy.

This saga is the ultimate fix for this attention wh*re.

 

[adedawson]

Well the Man U website today has made an annoucment that hes not for sale. I've never seen a rumor posted on the main news portal links before so I guess SAF is sticking with not selling the lad.... for now.

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={F9E570E6-407E-44BC-800F-4A3110258114}&newsid=6612192

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

For those Man U. fans who think ronaldo is taking a step backward I'll just say that #1, Real madrid are a bigger club than Man U. statistically speaking as well as in other areas. Take titles into account and overall appeal. This is not a knock on Man U. who are ahuge club in their own right but rather, the way it is. In world football it doesn't get bigger than playing for us, unless you grew up a fan of another club and dreamt of playing for said club. #2, He won all he could win in the Premiership with Utd. Why not take on new challenges. Also, why not move to a country with better weather, great food, great standard of living and a somewhat similar culture to Portugal? If you ask me, the timing couldn't be anybetter for him to move. However, there's no way in hell I'd give up Robinho and Ramos for him! That's just lunacy!

 

[MikeyM]

The way Ronaldo has acted in this is despicable. Manchester United and it's fans deserve to be shown far more respect than this - okay if he wants to play for Madrid then fair enough, but to suddenly decide this in the second year of a 5 year deal (which he was only too happy to sign last summer)

He was idolised at United, we took him to our hearts and defended him against the hatred he was subjected to (in fact retrospectively I'm afraid to say it seems he does have a deceptive and disingenuous side to his personality) Sir Alex Ferguson moulded him into the great player he is today (as opposed to the "trick pony" he was in the early years) And maybe he doesn't owe everything to United - but he owes them much more respect than this.

For the good of the club, Manchester United have now got to concentrate on putting together the best deal to move him on - a deal where United are the beneficiaries (In my opinion cash will be no good - we need players in exchange too)

Whether Real Madrid engineered this is not up for debate - rather it seems all to clearly now that Ronaldo had engineered this from the start - and that makes me sick to my stomach.

Perhaps if he had stood up and been a man about it (and just come out and stated his intentions in the first place), his time at United might have ended with him still enjoying the goodwill of the legions of supporters he is now turning his back on. Instead he has ruined what should have been a summer of celebration of a fantastic achievement in the Double.

However I will be extremely surprised if he ever gets a standing ovation from the Stretford end, should he ever return with his precious Madrid, like previous players like Alan Smith (who was a man about it) and others who showed the proper respect on the way out the door.

The David Beckham transfer was somewhat different. Beckham had an increasingly strained relationship with Sir Alex due to celebrity and stardom outside Old Trafford. Other clubs were monitoring the situation should United simply decide to transfer him (a deal was done with Barcelona) but Beckham decided to opt for Real Madrid. In retrospect I personally was wrong to blame Beckham for this - he simply wasn't strong enough to balance the two (As Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes etc have done)

In any case, it's obvious that Cristiano Ronaldo is no longer a topic with which United fans should concern ourselves, let the club give him the thirty pieces of silver and send him on his way. We have 29 other players in the squad who are committed - lets focus on them now.

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

The way Ronaldo has acted in this is despicable. Manchester United and it's fans deserve to be shown far more respect than this - okay if he wants to play for Madrid then fair enough, but to suddenly decide this in the second year of a 5 year deal (which he was only too happy to sign last summer)

He was idolised at United, we took him to our hearts and defended him against the hatred he was subjected to (in fact retrospectively I'm afraid to say it seems he does have a deceptive and disingenuous side to his personality) Sir Alex Ferguson moulded him into the great player he is today (as opposed to the "trick pony" he was in the early years) And maybe he doesn't owe everything to United - but he owes them much more respect than this.

For the good of the club, Manchester United have now got to concentrate on putting together the best deal to move him on - a deal where United are the beneficiaries (In my opinion cash will be no good - we need players in exchange too)

Whether Real Madrid engineered this is not up for debate - rather it seems all to clearly now that Ronaldo had engineered this from the start - and that makes me sick to my stomach.

Perhaps if he had stood up and been a man about it (and just come out and stated his intentions in the first place), his time at United might have ended with him still enjoying the goodwill of the legions of supporters he is now turning his back on. Instead he has ruined what should have been a summer of celebration of a fantastic achievement in the Double.

However I will be extremely surprised if he ever gets a standing ovation from the Stretford end, should he ever return with his precious Madrid, like previous players like Alan Smith (who was a man about it) and others who showed the proper respect on the way out the door.

The David Beckham transfer was somewhat different. Beckham had an increasingly strained relationship with Sir Alex due to celebrity and stardom outside Old Trafford. Other clubs were monitoring the situation should United simply decide to transfer him (a deal was done with Barcelona) but Beckham decided to opt for Real Madrid. In retrospect I personally was wrong to blame Beckham for this - he simply wasn't strong enough to balance the two (As Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes etc have done)

In any case, it's obvious that Cristiano Ronaldo is no longer a topic with which United fans should concern ourselves, let the club give him the thirty pieces of silver and send him on his way. We have 29 other players in the squad who are committed - lets focus on them now.

Good post Mikey. I agree about the respect thing for the fans and club. It's a matter of principle and shows the type of person you are. As for him oweing Utd. something, he doesnt owe anymore than respect. In return for Utd. signing him he's given you titles and possible suitcases of cash from a sale = even steven. I really don't know why Fergie is being stubborn. It seems as if Fergie is swallowing his pride. Why force a player to stay if he doesn't want to? Never understood this. It's the right time for Ronaldo and Utd. to part and move on, imo.

 

[KingPaulV]

Great post Mikey I agree with Orgullo and yourself; that is why as you seem to be also, I consider myself a supporter of the Club and not of players...sure there are players I like but the club is above them. I think that is a lesson that Madridistas had to learn the hard way during the Galactico years

 

[MikeyM]

Thanks.

I can see that Sir Alex is backed into a bit of a corner now - United will look like hypocrites if they turn round and sell him, but they have to do what's best for the club.
And obviously what's best for the club now is to maximise Ronaldo's value and to use it to help the club.

And to argue the point made before about Ronaldo winning trophies for us - he certainly helped, but in every game there were 10 others working for the cause too. Maybe certain goals wouldn't have been scored - but who's to say the team wouldn't have functioned effectively. Differently certainly, but could they have played to another winger's strengths instead?

Like Real when Zizou retired, they rebuilt a different team. Players come and go - but the club is forever.

 

[Filipower]

Just putting more gas in the fire here

but some United fans are talking the same crap as after world cup 06 with the whole rooney incident, and then sucked Ronaldo's cock when he scored 41 goals...so imagine if he stays and delivers again in the coming seasons like he already did..


let the bashing begin

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

Thanks.

I can see that Sir Alex is backed into a bit of a corner now - United will look like hypocrites if they turn round and sell him, but they have to do what's best for the club.
And obviously what's best for the club now is to maximise Ronaldo's value and to use it to help the club.

And to argue the point made before about Ronaldo winning trophies for us - he certainly helped, but in every game there were 10 others working for the cause too. Maybe certain goals wouldn't have been scored - but who's to say the team wouldn't have functioned effectively. Differently certainly, but could they have played to another winger's strengths instead?

Like Real when Zizou retired, they rebuilt a different team. Players come and go - but the club is forever.

This is why you guys wont miss Ronaldo!

Do you think there's anyway Ronaldo can remain at Utd. after all of this? Relationshipwise with the coach, fans? In other words, is it healthy to have him in the club after all this?

 

[MikeyM]

Just putting more gas in the fire here

but some United fans are talking the same crap as after world cup 06 with the whole rooney incident, and then sucked Ronaldo's cock when he scored 41 goals...so imagine if he stays and delivers again in the coming seasons like he already did..


let the bashing begin

It is in the nature of some football fans to try and convince themselves that the player they idolised is really not all that good (when said player leaves their club) This results in a lot of negative comments. I have never doubted Ronaldo's ability - quite simply he is phenomenally talented - although he has a questionable personality.

Ronaldo will never be idolised as much at United after this even if he stays and scores 50 goals (but I am convinced he won't stay) I expect a lot of the "glory hunters" and "fairweather" fans will desert the club once twinkle toes goes - but as I said before, I support the club - not one player.

There will soon be another man in the number 7 and life will go on.

 

[MaestroZidane]

its not healthy, but is something a few goals, tricks, and assistance to goals can easily cure and make people forgive and forget.

 

[MikeyM]

its not healthy, but is something a few goals, tricks, and assistance to goals can easily cure and make people forgive and forget.

I don't think those that hold the club as dear to their heart as myself will ever forgive the way he's behaved - part of me will never forgive him anyway.

Hell it took a Champions League victory for me to forgive the team for getting hammered by City at Old Trafford on the 50th anniversary of Munich!

 

[Filipower]

meh, I still think your point of view isn't that of the majority of the fans

 

[KingPaulV]

Well I really really really really doubt (did I say really?) that Ronaldo has any chance of staying at United...I think he'll up going on strike before he goes anywhere......

also Wesley Snijder just stated in an interview with Spanish Media that under no circumstances will he leave Madrid. He said when he left Ajax which was the club of his dreams the only place he wanted to go was Madrid and that he does not want to nor will allow anyone to move him....so there goes that trade option....I personally would trade Robihno plus cash if we MUST get Ronaldo ( i still dont know why we must) I think we would be replacing Robihno with an upgraded Robihno in Ronaldo....same general type of player, with Ronaldo being a little faster and a better finisher

 

[MaestroZidane]

he is the only player I would accept as a trade off for him. No Ramos an no Snijder

 

[Bobby]

Shame they can't cup tie him before they sell him.

 

[newbie original]

Haha!!

Just think what ManU can buy with that money....can't say they;ll shed too many tears.