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The "Cristiano Ronaldo's future" saga thread.

pede54

Team Captain
Yeah, I do think United will get over it if he does go. It happens at every club sometimes that you lose an influential player, but life goes on. Fergie knows that, but I think he is so angry with Ronaldo's attitude, that he would just love to make an example of him. I think Fergie feels somewhat humiliated by Ronaldo's lack of dialogue with the club, and the way this has been played out in the media. Fergie has been humiliated and so has the club, and I think Fergie would like to see Ronaldo suffer a bit for that.

As I said, United will certainly survive Ronaldo moving on, because they do have some very good players besides him, and they can always spend in the transfer market too.
 

MikeyM

Big Daddy
OrgulloVikingo;2540390 said:
Apparently, Ronaldo is much bigger. Why isn't Fergie upset with Ronaldo? Why is he basically kneeliong down and trying to convince him. I thought Fergie was a no nonsense guy? Furthermore, if Ronaldo will not be missed and you would have won all your trophies w/o him (which is pure BS!), then why not sell him?

You can bet Fergie is seething with Ronaldo's attitude - not just his wish to leave but the way he has conducted himself about it. I believe Fergie has been on holiday for the past three weeks (he's earned it) and no formal meeting between him and Ronaldo has yet taken place (probably will next week)

Fergie is in a difficult position - it's not a question of kneeling to Ronaldo , rather he needs to lay down a marker to the players and agents - after he said he'd leave Ronaldo "in the stands". If this transfer does go through, it sends a negative impression that Manchester United are a selling club and will bow to player pressure. Fergie is well aware that Ronaldo leaving mid contract is equally as damaging to Manchester United in the reputation department.

However, he will also be aware that any player not %100 United committed must be removed from the club in order to keep the team spirit.

And yes as I said before, we'll miss Ronaldo - but the team will adapt, we've lost far greater players than him in the past yet we still find a way to adapt. The team may play differently, but we have the talent to keep winning, I firmly believe that Rooney and others (maybe Nani) will step up to take the responsibility - it is the way United (and most clubs) has worked for over 100 years.
 

OrgulloVikingo

Senior Squad
Payaah;2540410 said:
Obviously Ronaldo will be missed if he goes after all he is the best player in the world he will be very hard to replace but not impossible. United could play a quality player in Ronaldo's position and then its possible someone else could step up that could be Tevez/Rooney just like Ronaldo stepped up after Ruud left. Without Ronaldo + money United can still be as good.

Without a doubt. You guys have agreat squuad w/o him. I'm just saying that sometimes you need the "superstars" to carry a team forward from time to time. Look at the Peles, Maradonad, Cruyffs, Eusebios, DiStefanos, etc. Having 5 star players can make ahuge difference. Ronaldo would be missed I assure you.
 

OrgulloVikingo

Senior Squad
MikeyM;2540520 said:
You can bet Fergie is seething with Ronaldo's attitude - not just his wish to leave but the way he has conducted himself about it. I believe Fergie has been on holiday for the past three weeks (he's earned it) and no formal meeting between him and Ronaldo has yet taken place (probably will next week)

Fergie is in a difficult position - it's not a question of kneeling to Ronaldo , rather he needs to lay down a marker to the players and agents - after he said he'd leave Ronaldo "in the stands". If this transfer does go through, it sends a negative impression that Manchester United are a selling club and will bow to player pressure. Fergie is well aware that Ronaldo leaving mid contract is equally as damaging to Manchester United in the reputation department.

However, he will also be aware that any player not %100 United committed must be removed from the club in order to keep the team spirit.

And yes as I said before, we'll miss Ronaldo - but the team will adapt, we've lost far greater players than him in the past yet we still find a way to adapt. The team may play differently, but we have the talent to keep winning, I firmly believe that Rooney and others (maybe Nani) will step up to take the responsibility - it is the way United (and most clubs) has worked for over 100 years.

Every team eventually adapts. I think, although I'm not for us signing him, that for the good of Utd., you let Ronaldo go if he wants to. Everyone should put egos and stubborness aside and realize that if someone/something is yours, you don't have to force it/him to be yours. Bottom line!
 

OrgulloVikingo

Senior Squad
About loyalty to a club. Money cannot buy you loyalty. Just because Utd. signed Ronaldo doesn't = he has to be loyal. If you ask me, Ronaldo has already repaid Utd. with helping them win titles, making money off of him via endorsements, etc. and a possible astronomical suitcase of cash if he's sold. I couldn't ask for more from Ronaldo if I were a Utd. fan. Want loyalty? Find young Manchester fans who are English, enroll them in the academy and bring them up. The loyalty comes from the heart not the pocket. Ronaldo has always fancied Real Madrid as the ideal team and his dream team. That's where he wants to be.

Now, not being respectful and not playing mindgames with the club and fans is where Ronaldo is at fault. Thats another matter.
 

MikeyM

Big Daddy
OrgulloVikingo;2540618 said:
Ronaldo has always fancied Real Madrid as the ideal team and his dream team. That's where he wants to be.

Now, not being respectful and not playing mindgames with the club and fans is where Ronaldo is at fault. Thats another matter.

Why did he sign a five year contract last summer then? He could have gone after the World Cup and no-one would have blamed him.
 

KingPaulV

Starting XI
Because you fail to see Mikey that it was a ploy by the lad all along. Football is how he eats, and he needed to secure his future after a questionable world cup. Once the deal was in the suitcase he knew no matter what he would have a job for the next five years...But its rather clear to me that he always had an ambition of being at Madrid and probably wanted to be the next Galactico...He could have gone the way Sneijder just did when linked to you guys and say I am not going, He could have gone the way kaka went when linked with us and say I am not going, but he didnt it was his plan all along,
 

MikeyM

Big Daddy
KingPaulV;2540623 said:
Because you fail to see Mikey that it was a ploy by the lad all along. Football is how he eats, and he needed to secure his future after a questionable world cup. Once the deal was in the suitcase he knew no matter what he would have a job for the next five years...But its rather clear to me that he always had an ambition of being at Madrid and probably wanted to be the next Galactico

If I recall, Real were desperately trying to get him at that time - he wouldn't have exactly gone light on the money side would he?

Everytime I think about this I get more and more hatred for the conniving little so and so - I just want the stain of his games out of my club - the sooner the better, and the more money we get the happier I'll be! To think I spent hours defending him to all and sundry when they could obviously see what he was like all along.

I won't make that mistake again!
 

Mandieta6

Red Card - Life
Life Ban
ManU should sell him. They've got more than adequate cover and they they'll get enough cash to bring in anyone to make their squad even better. I think the problem is that, like others have said, he's put Fergie in a tough spot, and it's hard to come out of it with your head held high. The question is whether Fergie wants to make Ronaldo suffer for another year, lose money in wages, risk damaging the spirit of the squad, and have a plauer who will definitely play beneath his ability, and then sell him for less money, or sell him now and be humiliated for a few weeks.

That said, I hope Fergie makes that little bastard suffer.
 

newbie original

We apologize for keeping the yellow too long
Yellow Card
O'Rly? Who is there RIGHT NOW to assume his role and deliver something close to what he was able to? Nani is not there yet....
 

Mandieta6

Red Card - Life
Life Ban
Maybe I didm't articulate myself properly. They don't have someone who is able to do what he does right now, but they have cover for him, and that cover is ManU level, and in the next year or so, might be C.Ronaldo level. The fact of the matter is, he is not irreplaceable, no player is.

Anyway, Anderson, Nani, Park, Rooney, Giggs are all players who can play similar roles to his, to answer your question.
 

pede54

Team Captain
MikeyM;2540626 said:
If I recall, Real were desperately trying to get him at that time - he wouldn't have exactly gone light on the money side would he?

Everytime I think about this I get more and more hatred for the conniving little so and so - I just want the stain of his games out of my club - the sooner the better, and the more money we get the happier I'll be! To think I spent hours defending him to all and sundry when they could obviously see what he was like all along.

I won't make that mistake again!

Damn, don't be too hard on yerself Mikey. In your position as a fan of the guy, we would ALL OF US done the exact same thing. It's natural mate, to defend your own players. Nobody thinks any the worse of you for doing that.(Y)
 

daS

Reserve Team
C.Ronaldo to Madrid .. Quaresma to Manchester .. and the winner is : AH PORTO AGAIN !!! xD xD xD
 


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