Render Every AI Frame

[ber]

My game run with small jumps and blurred graphics during the passes and long shots...the same problem that happen in 2003 and 2004...But in the fifa 2005 the magic line called "rendery every..." does not work...
Ea sports, is unable to resolve our problem, your technical support is useless
Kareem seem our salvation but he has disappeared...
My Fifa 2005 will return to the limbo and I´m waiting PES 4.
The last Fifa that I will buy

P-IV
Radeon 9600 pro
512 MB
Sis 645
Directx 9.0c
Catalyst 4.10

 

[silent_espy]

Originally posted by ber
My game run with small jumps and blurred graphics during the passes and long shots...the same problem that happen in 2003 and 2004...But in the fifa 2005 the magic line called "rendery every..." does not work...
Ea sports, is unable to resolve our problem, your technical support is useless
Kareem seem our salvation but he has disappeared...
My Fifa 2005 will return to the limbo and I´m waiting PES 4.
The last Fifa that I will buy

P-IV
Radeon 9600 pro
512 MB
Sis 645
Directx 9.0c
Catalyst 4.10

Definitely my last too

 

[[mouta-FCP]]

E-Mail EA...

 

[CVS Stilton]

Still Bemused

I'm still stuck with this choppiness thing and still unable to fly at 1280.

One thing I have noticed is that in addition to the choppiness on long balls and goalie kicks, when the halfway line is visible, it splits and judders in several places. I've tried to get a screenie but no joy so far. Any of you other chopsters had this? Has there been any sniff of a patch yet?

 

[Vazza46]

Nope no luck so far mate were patches are conserned. But the longer EA ignore us the more annoyed we get and we'll just play Pro Evo instead and then tell them why once there sales have dramatically decreased.

 

[blitz86]

Definitly the last Fifa for me too. I already returned the game. I'm gonna go with the Winning Eleven series from now on.

 

[silent_espy]

Winning eleven for me too anyway i think PES would be out earlier than WE

 

[plonka2000]

Hi People,

Sorry for my absence. I've been ill with a virus... I wont go into any more than that. I'm sorry to leave you guys hanging like that though. Really.

Anyway, I'm back now and thankfully, our fifa devs, the compatibility team and the whole dev studio have been working on this while I've been away.

They do need some more info from your guys though, namely actual screenshots of an affected person.

I mean can someone go into the game, press [PRINT SCRN], paste it into Paint and post iot here. The more I can get the better.

Kareem.

 

[[mouta-FCP]]

What have print screens to do with fps problems? Btw i have some graphical issues... some point start appearing in the menues or in the kits, i'll post a screen later. I have a GeForce 4 488 Go 64 MB.

 

[plonka2000]

If you are having FPS problems, not to be rude, but its not intended for this thread. THe problem you are having is due to your mobile centrino processor which changes speed dynamically.
This causes havoc with games and cannot be fixed because its a proprietry technology and would take too long to reverse-engineer. Your issue needs to be directed at Intel/AMD. In any case there isnt a game developer/publisher out there who supports games on laptops.

For people affected by blurring/flickering, I have been requested to get scrren grabs from any/all affected users.
Again, I apologise for the dissapearance, but I am back now.

Kareem.

 

[[mouta-FCP]]

Originally posted by plonka2000
If you are having FPS problems, not to be rude, but its not intended for this thread. THe problem you are having is due to your mobile centrino processor which changes speed dynamically.
This causes havoc with games and cannot be fixed because its a proprietry technology and would take too long to reverse-engineer. Your issue needs to be directed at Intel/AMD. In any case there isnt a game developer/publisher out there who supports games on laptops.

For people affected by blurring/flickering, I have been requested to get scrren grabs from any/all affected users.
Again, I apologise for the dissapearance, but I am back now.

Kareem.

1rst Point : I have a P4 3,06 HT and not a Centrino
2nd Point: I have the problem of blurring/flickering that causes FPS problems...
3rd Point: The laptop support is a lie cause i played perfectly EURO 2004 with the render every AI Frame, i'm complaining about the blurring/flickering, the ghrapical issues are other question maybe concerned with Pixel Shader...

 

[plonka2000]

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
1rst Point : I have a P4 3,06 HT and not a Centrino
2nd Point: I have the problem of blurring/flickering that causes FPS problems...
3rd Point: The laptop support is a lie cause i played perfectly EURO 2004 with the render every AI Frame, i'm complaining about the blurring/flickering, the ghrapical issues are other question maybe concerned with Pixel Shader...

Look, I dont want to argue about this, however, you clearly stated that you have a Geforce 4 Go video card.
These cards are only available in laptops. If you do not have such a card or a laptop, please do not mislead.

Also, if Euro runs fine on your laptop, thats great. It really is. However, its still not supported.

If you do, please follow my previous advice.

As I stated before, I do not wish to argue about this (Or with anyone else). I am here to help, but your issue is one that does not seem to be the same as others.

If you have a non-laptop that is experiencing this problem, PLEASE post a screen grab here.

Trust me, I'm not being akward but it sounds like something totally separate problem.

Also (Lastly), I dont need this agrivation. I dont mean to go into a rant here but I have noticed over time that there are 2 kinds of people on message boards and forums.

1) Those who are helpful, direct and honest.
2)Those who are sarcastic, snappy, 'flamers', agressive in their language and downwright rude.

This is not to say that those in the second category dont have good points or are not intelligent, however, how you put something across to someone can help a great deal. And also less abuse and snappiness is not appreciated.

Have a think about it. I have read back through your previous posts in this thread and I honestly havnt been able to find a non-sarcastic or generally positive or constructive post.

As you have ALL gathered, this is something I dont appreciate. Especially since I'm trying to help where I dont have to. I also stated previously and repeatedly, that I will cease to post here if this continues.

Please refrain.

Kareem.

 

[Vazza46]

Hi Kareem, Glad to see your back and your well again thats the main thing. I tried to get some screenshots for you however was unsuccessful, some reason the screenshots do not show the blur when the picture is taken.

Basically its just the frame rate problem. Whenever the players or ball is in motion. Such as passing, running etc. I have tried various things to cure the problem but i have heard that this problem has occured in the last years version and Euro 2004. However people are wondering if maybe the command line name has changed for some reason this year?

I have the most up to date drivers and directX. I have tried the game on all settings and resolutions.

Here are my specs:

GC: nVidia Geforce 6800 GT
ram: Kingston HyperX 1GB 400mhz
hdd: Western Digital 160 GB
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3500+
Motherboard: ASUS A8V Deluxe

 

[JumboJet]

Kareem, you may have missed it, but forum member deem posted pics of the problem (taken by digicam) on page 3 of this thread:

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?postid=1515320

This pic illustrates the problem perfectly. The faster the scroll the more blur you get (fast long balls etc.) It looks like a double picture, the new position is rendered but the old one is still on screen. But it more than just that. Even during slow play or minimal movement the game still looks choppy.

It appears on my system which is P4 NWood 3.0GHz HT, dual ddr400 (2x512 mb), 875P chipset, Ti4200 graphics card, latest directX and nvidia drivers installed.

 

[plonka2000]

Originally posted by Vazza46
Hi Kareem, Glad to see your back and your well again thats the main thing. I tried to get some screenshots for you however was unsuccessful, some reason the screenshots do not show the blur when the picture is taken.

Basically its just the frame rate problem. Whenever the players or ball is in motion. Such as passing, running etc. I have tried various things to cure the problem but i have heard that this problem has occured in the last years version and Euro 2004. However people are wondering if maybe the command line name has changed for some reason this year?

I have the most up to date drivers and directX. I have tried the game on all settings and resolutions.

Here are my specs:

GC: nVidia Geforce 6800 GT
ram: Kingston HyperX 1GB 400mhz
hdd: Western Digital 160 GB
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3500+
Motherboard: ASUS A8V Deluxe

I was afraid this would be the case.
Have anyone else tried what was suggested the post I saw by someone on here (Sorry cant remember the name).

Namely, to alt-tab out of the game and switch back to it...? I'd just like to see if this works in any way, because I suspect it may be a sync issue in some way. As far as I can tell, this does not solve the problem as it re-occurs soon after if I remember correctly.

If as many of you all could try this so that I can get some more evidence to put forward please. Also, if you all could also try to take screenshots to see if the burring will show up in any screenshots.
Please submit them here anyway.

I need to make a fair case to the devs as they need to know exactly what they're looking for.

Thanks people.

Kareem.

 

[plonka2000]

Originally posted by JumboJet
Kareem, you may have missed it, but forum member deem posted pics of the problem (taken by digicam) on page 3 of this thread:

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?postid=1515320

This pic illustrates the problem perfectly. The faster the scroll the more blur you get (fast long balls etc.) It looks like a double picture, the new position is rendered but the old one is still on screen. But it more than just that. Even during slow play or minimal movement the game still looks choppy.

It appears on my system which is P4 NWood 3.0GHz HT, dual ddr400 (2x512 mb), 875P chipset, Ti4200 graphics card, latest directX and nvidia drivers installed.

Hi and thanks but I already have the pictures and so do the devs from me.

However, they are asking for actual screen grabs so here I am asking for them.

Kareem.

 

[Brian Potter]

i have the same problem too.
kareem , i understand your frustration at people directing all there displesure with EA at you. i do simpathise.
BUT...
i have asked you already in a very polite manner to answer 1 simple question......

is the render line still in the game or not?


i dont have a digi cam and print screen does not display the problem. therfore i cannot help with picks of this problem.

amd athlon 3200xp
gigabyte GA 7400-L
2 x 256mb of kingston dual chanel ram
nvidia FX5900XT
2 x seagate 40gig ata 133 HD's
20 inch sun microsystems monitor
all drivers upto date including board bios.

thanks for trying to help !

 

[plonka2000]

Originally posted by Brian Potter
i have the same problem too.
kareem , i understand your frustration at people directing all there displesure with EA at you. i do simpathise.
BUT...
i have asked you already in a very polite manner to answer 1 simple question......

is the render line still in the game or not?


i dont have a digi cam and print screen does not display the problem. therfore i cannot help with picks of this problem.

amd athlon 3200xp
gigabyte GA 7400-L
2 x 256mb of kingston dual chanel ram
nvidia FX5900XT
2 x seagate 40gig ata 133 HD's
20 inch sun microsystems monitor
all drivers upto date including board bios.

thanks for trying to help !

Originally posted by Plonka2000
Please submit them here anyway.

I have asked the devs regarding if the command is still there and they have not got back at me yet with a definite answer. Its not for me to assume if its a yes or no either.

However, they have assured me that they are looking into it.

As soon as I have some sort of solution, I will let you guys know for sure.

Kareem.

 

[Vazza46]

Cheers Kareem, We all appreciate your help. As long as we know its being delt with thats ok. I'd rather no its being worked on than nothing at all.

Hope to hear from you soon!

Patrick Hall

 

[[mouta-FCP]]

Kareem are you kidding with me? My problem is exactly the same as the others, i have a laptop but it has nothing to do with that. THE PROBLEM IS AND I REPEAT, WHERE'S RENDER_EVERY_AI_FRAME LINE COMMAND? This line made the game ran smooth as silk, this is THE PROBLEM, the game is not smooth... how many posts i'll have to do with this so you and EA guys understand? The game with that command line became smooth, it happened in EURO 2004, why EA removed it?