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[Sir Didier Drogba]

I think someone 30+ having sex with someone 17 or less, sober and knowing the correct age of their sex partner, is a creep and I would not be opposed to legislation preventing them.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Bullshit. I was smart as fuck when I was 16 although naive and inexperienced in social situations. Still, I could easily converse with my 16 year old self.

If you think it's so easy to game a 16 year old girl then be my guest and try to do so. They'll probably laugh at you for being old and pathetic.

LOL at a 24 year old "being in a different place". My fucking ass. 24 year old woman who is out of school is in the same fucking place as a single 40 year old male. And suggesting that a 24 year old is in a different place than a 20 year old is laughable to an older person. No... not really. One is probably in school and one is probably out of school, but there's not this maturity gap that you suggest. And even if there is, so what? I think it is complete bullshit to suggest that I would be a creep for dating a 24 year old. That is seriously one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. 24 year old girls are more experienced than I am and have more connections than I will ever have.

I disagree with the entire premise your post is based on, that age (after 16-18ish) is relevant in an way.

And I find nothing wrong or creepy with an older man and a younger woman being naturally attracted to each other and pursuing some kind of relationship.

I feel at this point that I should mention that I never even tried to have sex with a 16 year old girl when I was 16, so I'm not defending myself when we talk about underage girls.

 

[Sir Didier Drogba]

So you're making laws on the hopes of prevention, not because they're the right laws to make? I don't think the number of 30yos dating under 18s would change much in all honesty. Your claim is like suggesting that prohibition works in drugs and alcohol, when every nation that tries the alternative finds they're no worse off.

Well the deterrent effect is very different because being a child sex offender carries far greater stigma than being a convicted drug user.

 

[Sir Didier Drogba]

Just thinking about how much I would have loved to shag 30 year old women when I was 16

 

[Alex]

Your edit there Az, you say "anyone", surely you mean anyone 20+ or something?

I actually notice a big divide between High School kids and Uni students in terms of maturity (since you mentioned a few different ages), and then a slight difference (more on personality and beliefs) between someone outside of uni and a uni student.

But apart from that I don't agree with your "four year age gap", rule that you mentioned. I think it's a random estimate you've plucked from your head. My gf was 17 when we started going out, and I was 22 (I turned 23 before she turned 18). Our relationship is still going, so your 4 years doesn't really with there.

I agree that something being illegal doesn't make it right. I think that's the main factor here, and more reason why the laws are right as they are (in Australia, at sixteen). Anything outside of that is just somebody's opinion on right and wrong (again-like the gay argument).

As for age gap, I like the famous half your age and add 6 formula.

I'm 29, so 14.5 + 6 = 20.5. Remembering this is a suggested limit. I think that's pretty accurate.

Leaves a 22 yo with a 17 yo max etc.

 

[Alex]

Well the deterrent effect is very different because being a child sex offender carries far greater stigma than being a convicted drug user.

It's still a ridiculous idea to unjustly regard people as child sex offenders, just in the hope it will reduce the number of people taking advantage of 16/17yos. Laws should be about minimum social expectations, not there in the hope of swaying society to act in a way that you feel right.

 

[Alex]

Just thinking about how much I would have loved to shag 30 year old women when I was 16

When I was sixteen there was no attraction there at all

 

[ShiftyPowers]

When I was sixteen there was no attraction there at all

I'm 29 and there's not really attraction except for the girls I have been attracted to for several years, but I imagine that's kind of like how parents see their grown children as little kids. I still see these wrinkling hags as the hot 22 year olds they were.

 

[Alex]

As Shifty has suggested, loads of these arguments seem to be based on 16yos being young, naive, and easy to pick up for older guys. That idea itself us ludicrous - most of them would laugh at you for trying

 

[Bobby]

We got a new science teacher in midway through the year when I was 16. She was about 33 and hot as hell. I can't tell you how badly I wanted to fuck her.

 

[Back Door Skip]

Banging underage girls is serious business.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

I think that has more to do with power dynamics than raw physical attraction. I definitely wanted to fuck my 8th Grade English/Social Studies teacher, but she wasn't objectively attractive.

 

[Back Door Skip]

I wanted to fuck my speech teacher for no other reason that she had a nice body and failed me for skipping too much.

 

[yoyo913]

Does she know you're skip on the world famous SG?

 

[ShiftyPowers]

I didn't have hot teachers. My freshman English teacher was young, but she was a complete fucking bitch and the kind of teacher that would give you back your essay covered in red. I hated her and did not want to fuck her at all.

 

[Back Door Skip]

I didn't either except a Geometry intern as a sophomore. She was ridiculously hot. I think there were record amount of dudes signed up for tutoring when she was there.

My English teacher began dating her and pretty much won over the class because of that.

 

[Mandieta6]

Your edit there Az, you say "anyone", surely you mean anyone 20+ or something?

I actually notice a big divide between High School kids and Uni students in terms of maturity (since you mentioned a few different ages), and then a slight difference (more on personality and beliefs) between someone outside of uni and a uni student.

But apart from that I don't agree with your "four year age gap", rule that you mentioned. I think it's a random estimate you've plucked from your head. My gf was 17 when we started going out, and I was 22 (I turned 23 before she turned 18). Our relationship is still going, so your 4 years doesn't really with there.

I agree that something being illegal doesn't make it right. I think that's the main factor here, and more reason why the laws are right as they are (in Australia, at sixteen). Anything outside of that is just somebody's opinion on right and wrong (again-like the gay argument).

As for age gap, I like the famous half your age and add 6 formula.

I'm 29, so 14.5 + 6 = 20.5. Remembering this is a suggested limit. I think that's pretty accurate.

Leaves a 22 yo with a 17 yo max etc.

Yeah, I meant anyone over 20 if you're going to be pedantic. Your argument is based on one example, yours. I could list you many which support mine, as in people who are married to someone no more than 4 years older or younger than them. Obviously it doesn't apply to everyone, it's just a general approximation based on the couples I see. For example, in my sister's generation (mid 30s), who is at a point where most of them are settled down and a lot of them are married, in the last 10 years most of her friends are married. Off the top of my head, out of around 14 couples, none have a difference larger than 2 years.

It's perfectly acceptable to have a relationship with someone even 20 years your junior (unless you're 21), but it is obviously and understandably rare, and depending o the age of the youngster in the relationship, even reprehensible.

 

[Mandieta6]

Bullshit. I was smart as fuck when I was 16 although naive and inexperienced in social situations. Still, I could easily converse with my 16 year old self.

If you think it's so easy to game a 16 year old girl then be my guest and try to do so. They'll probably laugh at you for being old and pathetic.

LOL at a 24 year old "being in a different place". My fucking ass. 24 year old woman who is out of school is in the same fucking place as a single 40 year old male. And suggesting that a 24 year old is in a different place than a 20 year old is laughable to an older person. No... not really. One is probably in school and one is probably out of school, but there's not this maturity gap that you suggest. And even if there is, so what? I think it is complete bullshit to suggest that I would be a creep for dating a 24 year old. That is seriously one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. 24 year old girls are more experienced than I am and have more connections than I will ever have.

I disagree with the entire premise your post is based on, that age (after 16-18ish) is relevant in an way.

And I find nothing wrong or creepy with an older man and a younger woman being naturally attracted to each other and pursuing some kind of relationship.

I feel at this point that I should mention that I never even tried to have sex with a 16 year old girl when I was 16, so I'm not defending myself when we talk about underage girls.

Sure, you could converse, of course you could. Would you actually take a 16 year old's advice on anything important though? Job, interpersonal, romantic? I don't think it's easy to game a 16 year old, I just think you shouldn't do it. And I can guarantee, at least in my surroundings that 4 years is a big difference in the early 20s. 18 year olds are just stepping out of the small world of high school into university life. 22 year olds are entering the job market and 26 year olds are generally somewhat experienced and probably maintaing themselves or close to. Those are big differences and in the gap between each of them is a lot of maturing and life experiences that make you a different person.

Since I stopped my studies for a year and re-started now (having already switched majors), I'm now 21 and in a class with lots of 18 year olds and I definitely feel a difference. My brother, who is 7 years older than me, is in a totally different place in life and much the wiser on a lot of this big issues. 16 year olds can converse and even be more knowledgeable on certain subjects than people twice their age, but not when it comes to life experience and that makes a big difference.

And suggesting that a 24 year old is in a different place than a 20 year old is laughable to an older person.

So what I, a 21 year old, is saying is laughable to an older person and you don't think that somehow validates my point? An older person will find many more things laughable when talking to a 16 year old.

At no point did I even suggest that dating a 24 year old could make you a creep. You're just pushing what I'm saying into an extreme and arguing against that. The older you get, the less age becomes a factor, there are still differences between most 30 year olds and most 24 year olds, but not like 24 year olds and 18 year olds, for example. Again, don't think dating a 16 year old (and anyone older) makes you a creep.

If age wasn't relevant in any way there'd be a lot more variance in age difference between adults in long-term relationships. You'll find most people (MOST people) find a partner around their same age.

 

[Mandieta6]

I had 3 teachers I would have liked to bone: one MILF, one big-titted, one semi-pretty, but it's very much a fat grape little grape situation.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Yeah, I meant anyone over 20 if you're going to be pedantic. Your argument is based on one example, yours. I could list you many which support mine, as in people who are married to someone no more than 4 years older or younger than them. Obviously it doesn't apply to everyone, it's just a general approximation based on the couples I see. For example, in my sister's generation (mid 30s), who is at a point where most of them are settled down and a lot of them are married, in the last 10 years most of her friends are married. Off the top of my head, out of around 14 couples, none have a difference larger than 2 years.

It's perfectly acceptable to have a relationship with someone even 20 years your junior (unless you're 21), but it is obviously and understandably rare, and depending o the age of the youngster in the relationship, even reprehensible.

This means nothing. Most people date in their social circle. Obviously most couples will be within a couple years. May-December couples are extremely threatening to older women and that's why they shit talk men for their natural desires.