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[Sir Calumn]

Yeah you lucky bastard! Unless it is a replica, of course.

But I had a quick browse and the only mentions I could find of that Carlos*et are on museum sites, couldnt see a single one for sale. And there are other WW2 US flight Carlos*ets for sale at hundreds of dollars.

But even if it's worth loads I dont think you should sell it!

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Hell no. If it is authentic, it still looks as good as ever 70 years after it was made. I can give this thing to my grandkids, not to mention wearing it for the next 30 years myself.

The only thing that gives me pause is that it talks about Communists, so just from my own knowledge I would have placed it as Korean War era, so perhaps it is a replica.

 

[Sir Calumn]

You can impress girls with wonderful stories about how it belonged to your granddad and survived 4 years in a Japanese POW camp without getting a scratch..... then put on a distressed look and say "if only the same could be said for him..."

 

[emmer]

The American flag was different during both the WW2 and the Korean War, no? It had 48 stars. The one in your Carlos*et seems to have 50 stars.

So it's probably a replica, but it's very cool anyway.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Wow, nailed it. Definitely a replica then. Ah well, still looks cool for the price.

 

[Sir Calumn]

Haha bad news for you but good for me as if there's replicas about I stand a chance of finding one!

And emmer that was probably the cleverest piece of deduction that's ever been done on SG.

 

[Alex]

Haha bad news for you but good for me as if there's replicas about I stand a chance of finding one!

And emmer that was probably the cleverest piece of deduction that's ever been done on SG.

EVER. Bugger SG.

I think Emmer is secretly off NCIS

 

[ShiftyPowers]

One more thing I need for the summer, for the beach/pool I need a white linen button down that's only about waist high.

 

[::shinji::]

Am thinking about picking up a pair of Red Wing boots, but am concerned about being accused of being a hipster. Which, after browsing some photos online, I think I might unknowingly be..

 

[ARIAGA II]

I been wanting those for a while, undecided between them and Ronnie Fieg's Sebago collabo. I'll probably decide if/when I get my hands on my current sneaker grail...the Air Yeezy IIs.

 

[fender]

It looks icky when you sweat when wearing a light colored dress shirt, thoughts on wearing an undershirt?

Looks a bit odd though when you can see the sleeves underneath the dress shirt.

 

[Alex]

Yeah, if you can see the undershirt, it looks crap. If you can't it's a good idea.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

I've been anti undershirt for awhile, but have been more cautious about ruining my shirts lately. V-necks are great for this. But if you aren't wearing a coat or a darker shirt I say just bite the bullet and don't wear one. Looks better without even just the way it hangs on your body. Protect expensive dress shirts, but the rest are probably expendable enough, especially if you have Old Navy.

 

[Alex]

I only meant with a tie. If you've got an open neck, I'd never wear an under shirt.

I guess when I said "if you can see the undershirt" I meant anywhere, not just the sleeves. The neck, the sleeves, the shape, anything.

 

[Jaboldinho]

If it doesn't show, go for it. If it shows, don't.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

I only meant with a tie. If you've got an open neck, I'd never wear an under shirt.

I guess when I said "if you can see the undershirt" I meant anywhere, not just the sleeves. The neck, the sleeves, the shape, anything.

It really does depend on the shirt. From your comment it really seems like you've never seen a v-neck tshirt. Ben Sherman shirts are very tight and probably shouldn't be worn with an undershirt because it will mess up the shape. On the other hand I wore a Brooks Brothers shirt with a v-neck about a week ago and thought it looked great. Like I could have been playing polo in the 1930s. But it depends on the material (if it's see through, usually only pink/white), the button placement (how deep the second or third button goes down if it conceals the v-neck), the fit (already discussed).

Anyway, the original question, I've actually never had a problem with an undershirt showing in the arms. This seems like only a problem with a short sleeve shirt? In which case I'd say you never wear an undershirt with those, which is kind of like the "no socks with shorts" rule. The problem I am mostly trying to combat is the chemical reaction between sweat and deodorant which results in yellow pit stains over time, and for that occasional undershirt use is vital.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Well today I was walking by the market here in Florence and I saw some Lacoste polo's for 20 euros, they had two buttons and looked really real and they were made in France. But I dunno, the price makes me think they were fake, which they probably were...

I was curious what people were buying back when this thread started, and a lot of people posted about Lacoste Tennis shirts and getting fakes.

The easy way to tell is that Lacoste uses mother of pearl for the buttons. Mother of pearl doesn't retain heat like plastic does, so if you feel it on a sensitive part of your body (like your upper lip) it will feel cold to the touch. What's odd is that I just compared the one Lacoste tennis shirt I have to my RL Polo shirts and the Lacoste was cold, the 2 Chinese made RLs were room temp, and a Peruvian made RL appears to have mother of pearl buttons in addition to a much better quality weave of the cloth and possibly better cotton as well. Knew the quality seemed different in the past, but never inspected the labels or noticed the button material between the different RL Polos. Kinda cool!

Anyway, if a knockoff is going to use mother of pearl buttons, then who cares if it's a knockoff, the thing is going to be higher quality than most shirts anyway. If they're using the fancy buttons they probably are woven and put together well too.

EDIT: With that said, don't spend much money on polo shirts. I just grabbed a couple new ones from Lands End for $20 without a label on the outside. Polos are essentially "t-shirts for grownups". If you're going out in public and just want to throw something on for comfort, use a polo. If you're meeting people for anything social after say 5pm, then wear something else IMO. This, sadly, is something I have only very recently grasped as I transition into preppy douche. Along with undershirts, jeans, and underwear, this is something you can skimp on. Spend the money you save on shoes and a watch. And if you save a lot of money, have your **** tailored.

 

[clash]

Shopping against depression - got a pair of two-tone wingtips, love the way they look, not sure if I'll ever wear them, lol.

 

[Alex]

It really does depend on the shirt. From your comment it really seems like you've never seen a v-neck tshirt. Ben Sherman shirts are very tight and probably shouldn't be worn with an undershirt because it will mess up the shape. On the other hand I wore a Brooks Brothers shirt with a v-neck about a week ago and thought it looked great. Like I could have been playing polo in the 1930s. But it depends on the material (if it's see through, usually only pink/white), the button placement (how deep the second or third button goes down if it conceals the v-neck), the fit (already discussed).

Anyway, the original question, I've actually never had a problem with an undershirt showing in the arms. This seems like only a problem with a short sleeve shirt? In which case I'd say you never wear an undershirt with those, which is kind of like the "no socks with shorts" rule. The problem I am mostly trying to combat is the chemical reaction between sweat and deodorant which results in yellow pit stains over time, and for that occasional undershirt use is vital.

As I said, I meant shirts with ties. For some reason I was just thinking formal shirts.

I agree with that whole first paragraph apart from that. I guess that's why there was confusion. I was on my phone, trying to make the reply as short as possible.

The undershirt showing in the arms is actually a problem with short sleeve undershirt, long sleeve shirt - and I don't mean physically showing, I mean the shape going through, as well as - with lighter fabrics, the white base colour going through.

 

[::shinji::]

I was curious what people were buying back when this thread started, and a lot of people posted about Lacoste Tennis shirts and getting fakes.

The easy way to tell is that Lacoste uses mother of pearl for the buttons. Mother of pearl doesn't retain heat like plastic does, so if you feel it on a sensitive part of your body (like your upper lip) it will feel cold to the touch. What's odd is that I just compared the one Lacoste tennis shirt I have to my RL Polo shirts and the Lacoste was cold, the 2 Chinese made RLs were room temp, and a Peruvian made RL appears to have mother of pearl buttons in addition to a much better quality weave of the cloth and possibly better cotton as well. Knew the quality seemed different in the past, but never inspected the labels or noticed the button material between the different RL Polos. Kinda cool!

Anyway, if a knockoff is going to use mother of pearl buttons, then who cares if it's a knockoff, the thing is going to be higher quality than most shirts anyway. If they're using the fancy buttons they probably are woven and put together well too.

EDIT: With that said, don't spend much money on polo shirts. I just grabbed a couple new ones from Lands End for $20 without a label on the outside. Polos are essentially "t-shirts for grownups". If you're going out in public and just want to throw something on for comfort, use a polo. If you're meeting people for anything social after say 5pm, then wear something else IMO. This, sadly, is something I have only very recently grasped as I transition into preppy douche. Along with undershirts, jeans, and underwear, this is something you can skimp on. Spend the money you save on shoes and a watch. And if you save a lot of money, have your **** tailored.

An easy way to spot fakes from years ago (don't know if knock-offs have improved since) was simply the position of the crocodile. On real Lacoste's the croc is positioned slightly higher than the bottom button, fakes often had it placed an inch or two below said button. I'm sure the counterfeiters have stepped up their game since though..