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go watch the movie again.....your recollection of certain key incidents is way off! The cops see them, they see cops, cops start shooting at them when they attempt to get away, then they hide behind some boulders, cops continue to shoot (attempting to kill em imo), older brother stupidly gets up, gets shot, younger brother picks up gun and then proceeds to shoot back to defend his father and brother.....all the while they're begging the cops to stop shooting, but no one's listening. Dude.....a sacred cow (A White person....and a woman at that) had been shot.....there's no way those cops were gonna let em see any form of proper justice.....they wanted to off em right there and then and bury their asses up on those mountains.
sheesh.....could you come off this anti-gun rhetoric for just a second? It's clouding your views considerably. Guns are very common in that culture, especially as it pertains to rural, village folk and their shepherd boys. These kids (in those sorts of environments) are taught to handle and shoot guns for protection, sport and hunting at around the ages that the kids in the movie were portrayed.....preteenish to early teens. How can you conclude and make the judgement that the father was an immoral and vile human being just because he engaged his sons in a sort of rite of passage into manhood by equipping them with a gun for security and the defence of their sheep? Did he instruct them to shoot the gun carelessly at anything that came into their sight? Clearly not. You're just doggedly clinging on to their age when it's evident that there's probably lots of kids out there in that culture who get guns at around the same age who don't even try to shoot at an inanimate object let alone a human being.........these kids just so happened to have made a stupid mistake, man.
You're being unreasonable and deliberately thickheaded, man. Either you don't know much about that culture and their way of life, or you're just continuing on with this charade just for the fun of it. It's the boys' duty to tend to the herding of the livestock....YES, EVEN AS YOUNG AS EIGHT or so, alright? Secondly, the mother and the daughter most likely have other womanly roles set by their cultures that they have to take care of. You can't be expecting them to be dealing with the domestic matters such as taking care of the toddlers, laundry, cooking, cleaning and all sorts of other **** and then go out and herd hundreds of stock all over that expansive and rugged land, man. These boys were well within the age of being able to responsibly tend to the family's stock. it's easy to defend the father's decision to purchase that gun because their isolated circumstance necessitates that they protect both themselves and their edible beasts as best as can be done......you have to remember that the father was away on a trip to the city on the day that this incident occurred....normally, I suspect that he'd be checking up on them from time to time to see that they were not slacking off and ****.
boy are you an angry and hostile sonofabitch.....I should've known better than to start up a civil debate with someone whose original reply was so adamant and perversely rigid.....this movie seems to have struck a chord with you in the most negative of ways, man.....I can't help it if you didn't connect with any of the characters or the issues surrounding the movie
again, it was one or two individuals who were behaving in that manner....the rest of em were only following along....just because no one did (in their warped and panicked minds) them any harm at that moment doesn't mean that there wasn't a potential for it to happen the longer they lingered on in that nondescript village
GOOD GOD! I'm trying my best to refrain from personal attacks here, man, but you're mercilessly baiting me with your pointless and misguided replies.
Sir Sir_Didier_Drogba;2387778 said:Wow, I thought I was the only person that could be bothered to argue with Yossarian.
For the record, I found Babel to be hugely disappointing, but I've probably said this already somewhere.
RuiCosta_10;2387973 said:Godfather Part II, better than the first in my opinion, which is also brilliant. Loved the flashbacks showing the beginning of Vito's Corleone career and life, and that was probably why i like it better than the first. The plot is also very good, the acting is amazing, i'm obviously going to mention Robert De Niro and Al Pacino that were absolutely incredible. The soundtrack goes pretty well with the movie and i don't think the fact that the movie is quite long and has some death moments makes it boring, actually those moments are amazing, like the stare Michael Corleone does threatening the hell out of everybody, and those conversations in the waiting room... Definitely one of the best movies i ever saw. Now gotta rent the third.
Well yes cops have been known to shoot after people when they are running away from the law, unless of course that is to be expected in Moroccan culture, you should know you seem to be an expert in the subject.
And people wonder why some cultures are so incredibly f*cked up...
And you aren't ?
Not really...it's just that the movie isn't nearly the level of quality that you make it seem to be.
Oh so that gave them reason to go to the husband with the dying wife and say "f*ck you we're leaving"?
Oh don't refrain to those, they correlate directly to a weak character and I'm sure you done have one of those.
resorting to feeble sarcastic responses as a means of beefing up your otherwise nonsensical and pointless jibber-jabber is pathetic.......keep at it because your desperation and futility is only becoming more blatantly obvious with each reply.
right..... just because they want to be self-reliant and preserve their stock, they're ****ed up pieces of scum? Your intolerant, ill-informed and seriously dogmatized views are way more loathesome and disturbing than the idea that some otherwise decent folk in some little hamlet equip their young boys with the tools necessary in their environment to keep afloat and persevere.
Not that im not capable of it, because we all are, but I haven't once displayed such moronic ploys to continue to prolong and pump up an otherwise lifeless argument and make perversely insensitive comments in order to bait you into a redundant needless dispute, as you have almost from the start.
and it's not nearly as terrible as you seem to think it was either.......I, for one, am not the individual with the foggy and messy memory of some of the most important segments of the flick.
I've already answered this to a sickening degree, pretty much like all of your other inane and ridiculously repetitive queries and retorts, alright? I'm only speculating from a devil's advocate viewpoint.....I've long ago conceded that it was a brutally heartless and shockingly cruel way for them to react to such a precarious circumstance.....and also slightly improbable.
heh.......I'm not always infallible and without any traces of character defects, but your consistent goading, provocations and petty needlings can be from time to time impossible to ignore.......oh yeah, why don't you go **** yourself, you worthless son of a c/unt..........there.......that needed to be let out, man.
I'm gonna go ahead and take that you agreed with my point which is why you completely ignored it
I'm just saying dude, if in certain cultures it is normal for children to walk around with guns from such a young age there's a higher likelihood that incidents will occur. I don't care if they are African, American, European, Asian or whatever kids, if you let kids walk around with guns, no matter how normal that is for their culture, incidents will happen. After all the movie is trying to portray an anti-gun view so I'm beginning to wonder why you're fighting against that so much when you keep talking about how impressive this movie was.
I don't know about you but I was ready to stop like 3 posts ago so I don't know out of the two of us which one is guilty for displaying moronic ploys to continue to prolong and pump up and otherwise lifeless argument and make perversely insensitive comments in order to bait you into a redundant needless dispute.
You just recently saw the film, I saw it when it came out on DVD.
Glad we've got that all settled .
Tom;2388315 said:also Heigl (sp?) is well hot. Just close your eyes for the birth-scene