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I have no hope Lui will ever appreciate PES, because his name is Dutch for 'lazy' 
I think he orginally comes from Holland according to his nickname 'Orange', so he might indeed be lazy
Lui, you need to go to the training-ground (if available in the demo) and practice on those nice features BEFORE you really start to appreciate the game.
If you started from scratch and you all of a sudden plays that hard demo you probably will loose interest.
That's why you said FIFA is better, I think.
I think he orginally comes from Holland according to his nickname 'Orange', so he might indeed be lazy
Lui, you need to go to the training-ground (if available in the demo) and practice on those nice features BEFORE you really start to appreciate the game.
If you started from scratch and you all of a sudden plays that hard demo you probably will loose interest.
That's why you said FIFA is better, I think.
PrimeEight
Club Supporter
Re: Re: pro evo vs fifa
Don't even start on that: the madden series are some of the best sports games you can get.
PES lacks what FIFA has most, but you can only realise this, not be told this- sort of like the matrix
I enjoy the things about PES as much as all of you, but for me, it is the dead one, the one with 'players on rails', the arcade one, and to be frank, the most boring.
If I was to give one tip for improving any game's gameplay, it would be the full use of the controllers analogue ability (in directions, passing and shot power)- as in FIFA WC2002
EA please don't give up on this.
P8
Don't even start on that: the madden series are some of the best sports games you can get.
PES lacks what FIFA has most, but you can only realise this, not be told this- sort of like the matrix
I enjoy the things about PES as much as all of you, but for me, it is the dead one, the one with 'players on rails', the arcade one, and to be frank, the most boring.
If I was to give one tip for improving any game's gameplay, it would be the full use of the controllers analogue ability (in directions, passing and shot power)- as in FIFA WC2002
EA please don't give up on this.
P8
Re: Re: Re: pro evo vs fifa
roflmao ladies and Gentleman meet our forum EA spokes person!
or he is a EA fanboy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
stop trying to make FIFA sound technically deep, its as shallow as a puddle.
roflmao ladies and Gentleman meet our forum EA spokes person!
or he is a EA fanboy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
stop trying to make FIFA sound technically deep, its as shallow as a puddle.
Re: Re: Re: pro evo vs fifa
Argh~~!!!
Do I hate people bragging about the analogue control of FIFA and raise it above PES/WE!!
WTF is the point of having analogue when the freaking game itself is SOOOO scripted, ball physics STILL herendous, and the AI outside somewhere having lunch at Taco Bell???
[and I am not exageratting
]
If thats all you could do with analogue, I'd rather stick with PES/WE's 16 direction control... cuz I almost never felt scripted... almost never seen any awkard player animation's reaction with the ball physics, and I still make a WHOLE LOT MORE different kinds of GOALS...and thats even after 8 months of playing or so!!!
When one day FIFA could accomplish above of PES/WE.. then f@#king brag about your useless @ss analogue control!!!
Sorry for the tone.... but such statements really pisses me off -.-
Argh~~!!!
Do I hate people bragging about the analogue control of FIFA and raise it above PES/WE!!
WTF is the point of having analogue when the freaking game itself is SOOOO scripted, ball physics STILL herendous, and the AI outside somewhere having lunch at Taco Bell???
[and I am not exageratting
]
If thats all you could do with analogue, I'd rather stick with PES/WE's 16 direction control... cuz I almost never felt scripted... almost never seen any awkard player animation's reaction with the ball physics, and I still make a WHOLE LOT MORE different kinds of GOALS...and thats even after 8 months of playing or so!!!
When one day FIFA could accomplish above of PES/WE.. then f@#king brag about your useless @ss analogue control!!!
Sorry for the tone.... but such statements really pisses me off -.-
PrimeEight
Club Supporter
Physics of the ball? PES feels like the ball's a stone to me. Let's just leave each other be; I enjoy the feeling of the ball physics in FIFA, some of you obviously don't see the same things I do in it.
PES fans seem to be heavily influenced by discrepancies between what's on the screen and what 'should' happen. I admit PES has got it spot on with how accurate each interaction with the ball is, but none of the motion is motion captured, so what you get is a really realistic 'aesthetically pleasing' model of a football player.
FIFA wc2002 is motion captured, but it could be played with stick-men for all I care, it's not really about player-ball interactions for me. FIFA is about THE ball, and where you want it to go. Do it right and it goes there, do it wrong and you make a mistake. And hey, use some imagination; just because the manual says that a button does shoot or pass, doesn't mean that it's exclusive- bend the rules a little; it's a lot more satisfying than pressing 'through ball' at the right time- again that's just my opinion.
Why is it that since PES came out, you've all decided that there is only one way to write a football game. Fair enough there's good points about it, but they don't have the same value to everybody.
P8
PES fans seem to be heavily influenced by discrepancies between what's on the screen and what 'should' happen. I admit PES has got it spot on with how accurate each interaction with the ball is, but none of the motion is motion captured, so what you get is a really realistic 'aesthetically pleasing' model of a football player.
FIFA wc2002 is motion captured, but it could be played with stick-men for all I care, it's not really about player-ball interactions for me. FIFA is about THE ball, and where you want it to go. Do it right and it goes there, do it wrong and you make a mistake. And hey, use some imagination; just because the manual says that a button does shoot or pass, doesn't mean that it's exclusive- bend the rules a little; it's a lot more satisfying than pressing 'through ball' at the right time- again that's just my opinion.
Why is it that since PES came out, you've all decided that there is only one way to write a football game. Fair enough there's good points about it, but they don't have the same value to everybody.
P8
Well thanx for the minority report EA Fanboy
How is FIFA's ball physics acceptable when the ball still moves on its own. [Ball will be behind the player either when dribbling or shooting... and the ball STILL magically comes forward]
It still has AMAZING acceleration..?? [a shot will hit the post at 50mph and deflect back at amazing 100mph!!?? ]
And if you're talking about wc2002, wuts with the mind breaking slinky @ss whooping curves on shots??
You shoot with ball hitting the same part of your foot and still could curve it both right or left and that too 10times more than Dunga did with his amazing freekick in the '94 wc.
Oh, and did somebody forget in wc2002 the ball has a built-in mind of its own?
And you compare that to PES/WE???
Also, wuts wrong with aesethically pleasing modeled player animations??? How else would you do it?? Make crappy looking animations??
I say its WAY better than not being able to motion capture every single possible situation and having to make awkard trasitions inorder to make the game flow(?)....???
Personal choices... I repspect.
But... sometimes its just too much...
Were not deciding that PES/WE is the only way how a Football sim should be.
But just can't help comparing FIFA's poor ball physics [though, greatly improved compared to prev FIFAs] and AI etc... cuz its TOO EVIDENT!!
I mean.. you play it..and see things happen infront of your eyes that don't in a game that wuz out for years.
How else are we supposed to react??
Re: Re: Re: Re: pro evo vs fifa
pssst its FOOTBALL.
Originally posted by the_man
Yeah, yeah oh and some people think that real life soccer is boring also
pssst its FOOTBALL.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: pro evo vs fifa
Well Im english and we gave you this game so I say its football!
hope that helps
Well Im english and we gave you this game so I say its football!
hope that helps
Originally posted by the_man
If you don't understand what I mean by soccer, then ask me what soccer is. I'll be glad to enlighten you about the game.
Football, now say it 5,000 times over and over again
the_man im guessing u live in America ... coz thats the only place besides australia & new zealand where they call Futbol soccer ... anyway i know you were brought up beleveing that it was called soccer but .. well sometimes for us europeans it gets frustrating .. i live in AUS i have to say it pisses me off sometimes ... i mean come on they stole our great games name , placed it onto a couple of sports (NFL, aussie rules, Rugby) which hardly even cinsist of playing the ball ( if thats what they wanna call that ... thing ... that is of a deformed shap ) with ur feet... & then labelld our bootiful game .. soccer? PISSES ME OFFFF!!!! .. dont have nuthing against u though .. guess u were jus brought up wit it ... & dude have u got your goal site up again yet .. i miss that
) with ur feet... & then labelld our bootiful game .. soccer? PISSES ME OFFFF!!!! .. dont have nuthing against u though .. guess u were jus brought up wit it ... & dude have u got your goal site up again yet .. i miss that Your not, your dealing with a man more manly then you will ever be.....FRUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!