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Mr Mo
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isn't it obvious? the real footy fans go for iss, as they have to measure passes and know automatically when someone runs into space. fifa is too un-realistic.
fifa versus iss? no contest!!!!!!!! iss handsdown!
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isn't it obvious? the real footy fans go for iss, as they have to measure passes and know automatically when someone runs into space. fifa is too un-realistic.
fifa versus iss? no contest!!!!!!!! iss handsdown!
The FIFA RTWC Webmaster
Senior Squad
Re: One more vote for ISS
I agree too, have you by the way tried the World Cup patch? In that case what do you think about it?Originally posted by GuileSN
Fifa is just dead for me, I play ISS on an emulator and its gameplay is damn better than any Fifa's games... And ISS is coming for PC, it's not by KCET, but it is certainly much better than Fifa...
Start saying your prayers EA..
Cheers
ISS2
I will play any football game .. Fifa lacks real gameplay.. but I rented a copy of ISS2 for the Xbox and it stinks ,yes there is some freedom of movement .. but the passing ( no matter how long you pressed down on the pass button) was very poor , player animation ..too much to go on with!! and don't tellme its the xbox's fault.. it was not MS that wrote the program for ISS2.. this version will make me think twice about buying any ISS or PES games.. hope I am proved wrong as I am feed up with Fifa.....
I will play any football game .. Fifa lacks real gameplay.. but I rented a copy of ISS2 for the Xbox and it stinks ,yes there is some freedom of movement .. but the passing ( no matter how long you pressed down on the pass button) was very poor , player animation ..too much to go on with!! and don't tellme its the xbox's fault.. it was not MS that wrote the program for ISS2.. this version will make me think twice about buying any ISS or PES games.. hope I am proved wrong as I am feed up with Fifa.....
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OBBB
Guest
It's a marketing problem...
ISS2 is far from representing the Winning Eleven serie in terms of gameplay, realism and quality.
The problem is that a realistic soccer simulation would probably not be successfull is the US (hence no PES on PS2 US)... ISS2 is more arcadish, from a different development studio and flawed anyway... FIFA corresponds more to the US tastes of pick and play gameplay about a sport they don't really care about (I doubt even that the fact the US squad is in 1/4 final of the World Cup will change things significantly, too bad). Realism is good for sports you feel commited to, like US football, Basketball or Hockey.
I got to play WE6 on Japanese PS2 and it is just brilliant. WE5 was very good, but they managed to make it even more so.
That's what I don't like about FIFA games in general, while many elements should need to be enhanced, like AI or the physics of the ball, they just seem to update the stats (very important for the US gamers because very exposed in the typical US sports), polish the cut-scenes and the graphics, but hardly any effort seems to be made about the gameplay. Some might say the gameplay suits the numerous FIFA fans, fair enough, but on a market where the WE serie remains desperately absent, it is just not good enough to content the large and diverse soccer gaming community...
ISS2 is far from representing the Winning Eleven serie in terms of gameplay, realism and quality.
The problem is that a realistic soccer simulation would probably not be successfull is the US (hence no PES on PS2 US)... ISS2 is more arcadish, from a different development studio and flawed anyway... FIFA corresponds more to the US tastes of pick and play gameplay about a sport they don't really care about (I doubt even that the fact the US squad is in 1/4 final of the World Cup will change things significantly, too bad). Realism is good for sports you feel commited to, like US football, Basketball or Hockey.
I got to play WE6 on Japanese PS2 and it is just brilliant. WE5 was very good, but they managed to make it even more so.
That's what I don't like about FIFA games in general, while many elements should need to be enhanced, like AI or the physics of the ball, they just seem to update the stats (very important for the US gamers because very exposed in the typical US sports), polish the cut-scenes and the graphics, but hardly any effort seems to be made about the gameplay. Some might say the gameplay suits the numerous FIFA fans, fair enough, but on a market where the WE serie remains desperately absent, it is just not good enough to content the large and diverse soccer gaming community...
Internazionale
Elo Ratings
Originally posted by RangersFC
damn right!PES rules...........
Yup. PES/WE rules.................
adembroski
Club Supporter
Re: It's a marketing problem...
I don't necessarily agree with that. Actually, give Fifa credit for doing much to popularize soccer in America... people love that game here. They don't buy it because it's soccer... soon as you get someone to try the game, they're hooked. I think more sim like soccer games would do well to capitolize on the momentum Fifa has created... many of us who are stuck with Fifa on ps2 are begging for a more sim approach right now... and it's just not coming.
I don't necessarily agree with that. Actually, give Fifa credit for doing much to popularize soccer in America... people love that game here. They don't buy it because it's soccer... soon as you get someone to try the game, they're hooked. I think more sim like soccer games would do well to capitolize on the momentum Fifa has created... many of us who are stuck with Fifa on ps2 are begging for a more sim approach right now... and it's just not coming.
Re: One more vote for ISS
Sorry for the ultra delay, but I haven't tested this world cup match yet, but I got WE 2002 and it's a nice game too.. Every WE is totally better than any FIFA, no doubt about that.. I wonder if Fifa 2003 will be the same s**t as always, but one point makes me think a little... As there is no more World Cup to be in the name of the game, I think it's probable that they will concentrate more on the gameplay, and I also think it's probable because they are losing costumers to Konami's ultimate football games.
Cheers
Sorry for the ultra delay, but I haven't tested this world cup match yet, but I got WE 2002 and it's a nice game too.. Every WE is totally better than any FIFA, no doubt about that.. I wonder if Fifa 2003 will be the same s**t as always, but one point makes me think a little... As there is no more World Cup to be in the name of the game, I think it's probable that they will concentrate more on the gameplay, and I also think it's probable because they are losing costumers to Konami's ultimate football games.
Cheers
Chelsea2001
Senior Squad
Konami will ALWAYS make football games 100 times better than EASports, PES RULES and i can't wait for PES2 in October
The only thing that does my head in is when people think that ISS and PES are still the same thing. They are now totally different as Konami still own both, but Major A make ISS, which is fairly poor but still better than FIFA, and the genius that is KCET make PES/WE, which is the greatest series of console games ever.
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brett90
Guest
pro evo vs fifa
How can you compare these to games?
Fifa is just an simplistic arcade game that is more worried about its menu and music than than its gameplay. Has been crap since fifa 95 atleast. The players feel like there all on rails its awfull...there is no skill in this game, every team you play feels the same
And Pro evolution soccer is a soccer simulation.. That tries and manages to capture every little detail/tactic/imersivness of the actual game of football.. so what if it has less teams? all the important ones are there.
who wants to play with 20 teams that are totally **** and are no different but in name to eachother anyway?.oh please let me play with fiji and san marino..NOT! fifa can take its multiples of amature teams and stick them where the sun dosnt shine.
Its impossible to compare these to games?.. EA as always knows there game is seriously flawed when compared to pro evo or for that matter the iss series, they just know they can sell the same old **** to the same people.... stand up for yourselves and dont buy into this rubbish
Take fifa 2002 wtf is that mode of play about letting you qualify for the worldcup.. and thats it?.. having to buy the official worldcup release to play the tournament? is that some kind of joke? that for me sums up EA and its fifa series...
As for iss2 on the xbox.. its awfull, a bad conversion.. by far the worst ive seen of the iss series on any format.... but **** happens. Dont think ive seen a review anywhere that would tell you otherwise
How can you compare these to games?
Fifa is just an simplistic arcade game that is more worried about its menu and music than than its gameplay. Has been crap since fifa 95 atleast. The players feel like there all on rails its awfull...there is no skill in this game, every team you play feels the same
And Pro evolution soccer is a soccer simulation.. That tries and manages to capture every little detail/tactic/imersivness of the actual game of football.. so what if it has less teams? all the important ones are there.
who wants to play with 20 teams that are totally **** and are no different but in name to eachother anyway?.oh please let me play with fiji and san marino..NOT! fifa can take its multiples of amature teams and stick them where the sun dosnt shine.
Its impossible to compare these to games?.. EA as always knows there game is seriously flawed when compared to pro evo or for that matter the iss series, they just know they can sell the same old **** to the same people.... stand up for yourselves and dont buy into this rubbish
Take fifa 2002 wtf is that mode of play about letting you qualify for the worldcup.. and thats it?.. having to buy the official worldcup release to play the tournament? is that some kind of joke? that for me sums up EA and its fifa series...
As for iss2 on the xbox.. its awfull, a bad conversion.. by far the worst ive seen of the iss series on any format.... but **** happens. Dont think ive seen a review anywhere that would tell you otherwise
BolzerMike
Reserve Team
Chelsea2001
Senior Squad
Re: pro evo vs fifa
because they are both football games fighting to be the best and EASports are try to concentate gameplay, they just can't do it
because they are both football games fighting to be the best and EASports are try to concentate gameplay, they just can't do it
adembroski
Club Supporter
Re: pro evo vs fifa
HEHEHEHE, this sounds amazingly like EA's American football game.
HEHEHEHE, this sounds amazingly like EA's American football game.
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Lui
Guest
i've always played iss,but fifa is the best game in the hole planet.
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Lui
Guest
ok, this is reallllly wierd. I never pposted that, I said that fifa was good, but i've never played iss
Internazionale
Elo Ratings
Lui, u live in Australia, u should give it a try to play ISS.
The gameplay is top notch.
I'm not sure whether ISS 2 available in Australia, but I think it should be in since it is PAL format (same as Europe).