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Lui
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it must have been late at night when i posted that. oh well, I must play it some time.
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Chelsea2001
Senior Squad
PES is the best one by far
Re: One more vote for ISS
Is ISS coming to PC???????????????????????????????????????Originally posted by GuileSN
Fifa is just dead for me, I play ISS on an emulator and its gameplay is damn better than any Fifa's games... And ISS is coming for PC, it's not by KCET, but it is certainly much better than Fifa...
Start saying your prayers EA..
Cheers
Chelsea2001
Senior Squad
Re: Re: One more vote for ISS
yeah i can't see it coming out for the PC
yeah i can't see it coming out for the PC
biohazard02
Club Supporter
iss is better isn't for pc
any way
u like it?
any way
u like it?
biohazard02
Club Supporter
and this?
biohazard02
Club Supporter
?
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Lui
Guest
are they really much different from each other?
i have a ps2, considering buying one of those two games. which is better, and what makes it better.
i have a ps2, considering buying one of those two games. which is better, and what makes it better.
I'm amazed at the inability to read people have. All the information Lui needs is in one of the posts in this thread.
Lets be simple,
Konami has TWO development studios producing soccer games, KCEO and KCET. KCEO made ISS98, ISS and ISS2. These are all inferior to the games made by KCET; ISS Pro Evolution (PS), ISS Pro Evolution II (PS), and Pro Evolution Soccer (PS2).
What you want is a KCET game (anything with "evolution" in the title). The next such game is Pro Evolution Soccer 2, due in this country (Australia) around about September/October. It will be released for the PS2.
So if you can't wait until then, buy PES. If you can wait, buy PES2 when it comes out in a couple of months.
Those people who have a mod chip, you are lucky, you can get the original Japanese games, which are part of the Winning Eleven series. Basically, PES = WE5. PES2 = WE6. It's not quite that simple, because the world release (PES games) usually have extra development features, but it's the same engine and the same technology.
Konami seem to have absolutely no clue as to the marketing for their games, as evidenced by the total confusion surrounding their ISS brand.
Clear .. as mud?
Lets be simple,
Konami has TWO development studios producing soccer games, KCEO and KCET. KCEO made ISS98, ISS and ISS2. These are all inferior to the games made by KCET; ISS Pro Evolution (PS), ISS Pro Evolution II (PS), and Pro Evolution Soccer (PS2).
What you want is a KCET game (anything with "evolution" in the title). The next such game is Pro Evolution Soccer 2, due in this country (Australia) around about September/October. It will be released for the PS2.
So if you can't wait until then, buy PES. If you can wait, buy PES2 when it comes out in a couple of months.
Those people who have a mod chip, you are lucky, you can get the original Japanese games, which are part of the Winning Eleven series. Basically, PES = WE5. PES2 = WE6. It's not quite that simple, because the world release (PES games) usually have extra development features, but it's the same engine and the same technology.
Konami seem to have absolutely no clue as to the marketing for their games, as evidenced by the total confusion surrounding their ISS brand.
Clear .. as mud?
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Lui
Guest
Thanks for that. I played PES last night, it's ok, but not as good as FIFA. Others may say otherwise.
once again thanks, coz it was only the demo i played.
once again thanks, coz it was only the demo i played.
Hard to believe... sure you played PES??
How long did you even play it??
Do you KNOW how to play PES??
Just hard to understand...
Yeah, people have different opinions and standards, but if you really KNOW football, too me PES/WE is THE GAME~
- the ability to pass into spaces
- build up plays
- hi thru-balls
- the 1-2's
- dribbling by defenders using balance and change in direction (no stupid special moves!)
- player animation, shooting animation, header animation, falling animaiton, goalie animation.. animation everything!
- shooting physics
- ball physics
- free kicks
- a whole lot variations in making goals
etc......
true, not a perfect footie game, but almost there....
I mean ANY Fifa can't even compare with all above of PES/WE.
Lui~
Did you reckognize any of the above??
Cuz if you didn't
You gotta give it another chance....
hchu, I wouldn't worry too much about Lui's comments.
Anyone who says that FIFAxx is better than PEx is not basing that on football merit. This is the truth, becos if you have kicked a ball in your life, you'd choose PEx as the better _football_ game.
However, if you don't want a true represtation of football (I mean, what is real life for right?) or if you don't want a pure football game (just something that looks like it) or you are more concerned with updating kits and all the other stuff, Fifa is your game.
If you want to coach/train/play as international players against other internationals, PEx is as close to real life as you are ever going to get.
Anyone who says that FIFAxx is better than PEx is not basing that on football merit. This is the truth, becos if you have kicked a ball in your life, you'd choose PEx as the better _football_ game.
However, if you don't want a true represtation of football (I mean, what is real life for right?) or if you don't want a pure football game (just something that looks like it) or you are more concerned with updating kits and all the other stuff, Fifa is your game.
If you want to coach/train/play as international players against other internationals, PEx is as close to real life as you are ever going to get.
Can't stop the rush...
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Lui
Guest
can u really do all that in PES hchu.
like i said, i only played the demo and it was only one game.
do u have any pes sites i can visit.
like i said, i only played the demo and it was only one game.
do u have any pes sites i can visit.
Of course~!!
Even if its a demo, you should know PES is a different game and that it means FOOTBALL the moment you make your first pass...~
Don't know how much you could do with a demo, but there's a lot in PES/WE.
- First its got tactics that WORKS
- A whole lot more depht in player attributes, team strategy etc...
- Each team plays and feels different!!
- Great Master League mode (that includes training, transfer, 3 divisions!!, different cups and tournaments, team kit and flag edit center etc...)
- Fairly addictive training mode~ (Luv the free kick challenge)
There's much more... just can't explain it all.
You should just go and play it than listen to me talk.
Don't know much about PES/WE sites. You really don't need to visit sites like you would if you were playing FIFA.
You'll actually spend more time PLAYING THE GAME.
I mean, how funny is it see everybody who play FIFA always have to come up with a gameplay patch, new pitch patch, ad board patch, kits etc??? Isn't it the gamemaker's job to create a game that do not need extra patches to improve it???
Just thought it was pathetic [don't want to be too offensive^^']
Anyways, here's the only site I know that is, at least, some worth for visiting.
http://www.thps-network.com/videos/gallery.cgi?Category=100016
Good luck with your encounter with PES~
As I said before, somewhere in this forum, I am always happy to convert, yet another FIFA lover, for I was one myself..........kkk
Even if its a demo, you should know PES is a different game and that it means FOOTBALL the moment you make your first pass...~
Don't know how much you could do with a demo, but there's a lot in PES/WE.
- First its got tactics that WORKS
- A whole lot more depht in player attributes, team strategy etc...
- Each team plays and feels different!!
- Great Master League mode (that includes training, transfer, 3 divisions!!, different cups and tournaments, team kit and flag edit center etc...)
- Fairly addictive training mode~ (Luv the free kick challenge)
There's much more... just can't explain it all.
You should just go and play it than listen to me talk.
Don't know much about PES/WE sites. You really don't need to visit sites like you would if you were playing FIFA.
You'll actually spend more time PLAYING THE GAME.
I mean, how funny is it see everybody who play FIFA always have to come up with a gameplay patch, new pitch patch, ad board patch, kits etc??? Isn't it the gamemaker's job to create a game that do not need extra patches to improve it???
Just thought it was pathetic [don't want to be too offensive^^']
Anyways, here's the only site I know that is, at least, some worth for visiting.
http://www.thps-network.com/videos/gallery.cgi?Category=100016
Good luck with your encounter with PES~
As I said before, somewhere in this forum, I am always happy to convert, yet another FIFA lover, for I was one myself..........kkk
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Lui
Guest
my friend who had the demo told me he bought the full version the other day. I will have to try it.
Thanks for your help champ.
Cheers,
Lui
Thanks for your help champ.
Cheers,
Lui
recently converted
I just bought PES and I'm converted. FIFA has rather sluggish gameplay and there's no real thought to the game.
In PES you have to build up the play from the back and think about who is available. Success is rewarding and you get a great sense of acheivement. You can score more impressive goals and there seems to be no repetetiveness to the gameplay. Every game is different.
You need skill to pull of great moves and free kicks and timing is a key aspect of every match. It's as close to real football as you can get.
FIFA is just what football would be like if it was Americanised.
I just bought PES and I'm converted. FIFA has rather sluggish gameplay and there's no real thought to the game.
In PES you have to build up the play from the back and think about who is available. Success is rewarding and you get a great sense of acheivement. You can score more impressive goals and there seems to be no repetetiveness to the gameplay. Every game is different.
You need skill to pull of great moves and free kicks and timing is a key aspect of every match. It's as close to real football as you can get.
FIFA is just what football would be like if it was Americanised.