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Is This Becoming The Poorest WC Ever?

johan

Senior Squad
Yep, I really don't enjoy this WC .. I don't know why, its just not exciting to me. The best WC for me was France 98, I remember I couldn't miss any game, I've missed plenty so far this WC.
 

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danger zone said:
....The era of the truly great team has passed sadly....

Au contraire!

In 1966, there was the Geoff Hurst goal that will be talked about for a long time. 20 years later, in 1986, there was the Hand of God goal that will be talked about for a long time. 20 years after 1986, there has been the 24 pass goal by Argentina and the 25 pass goal by Brazil that will, I'm sure, be talked about for a long time...both the result of good TEAM play! The Germans and Spanish have also impressed with their team efforts. As for the rest, they have adopted the "defence wins championships" strategy.

If anything, the tournament is lacking that great individual goal...Ronaldinho has been :-puke:! Messi has been on the bench and the others haven't done anything so far. But, at this stage, the best games (atleast on paper) are yet to come....

Sadly bad refereeing and boring tactics employed by SOME teams will leave their stains on the tournament.
 

pede54

Team Captain
So far, compared to many past World Cups, this one is rubbish. Fifa promised to make this World Cup a clean one. No hiding place for the cheats. It has been quite the opposite. A dangerous tackle becomes a straight red in one game and a yellow in another, depending which team it is. Fifa favouritism is as blatant as ever before.

How can Fifa say they will not overide a yellow for a headbutt that the ref clearly did not see, when last time out Totti's spitting earned himself a 3 game ban after Fifa viewed the replay. De Rossi rightly got a red for his elbow, Fifa viewed the incident and banned him for 3 games. Then how is it that they will not interveen for a headbutt that earned a pathetic yellow?

Its worse this time than ever before. If Fifa were serious about discipline, then any players fighting on the pitch should be eliminated from the competition for good. Whoever it might be.

I dont regard this World Cup as inferior to past World Cups simply because most of the games have been crap. I was just hoping that this time, after all of Fifa's brave words prior to the tournament, it would at least be a strictly fair one. It has not been fair and the cheats have still prospered. Thats why for me this World Cup has been a dissapointment.
 

MaSsiVe

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newbie original said:
20 years after 1986, there has been the 24 pass goal by Argentina and the 25 pass goal by Brazil that will, I'm sure, be talked about for a long time...
which Brazil goal are you talking about?
 

Jedi Mind Trick

Starting XI
pede54 said:
So far, compared to many past World Cups, this one is rubbish. Fifa promised to make this World Cup a clean one. No hiding place for the cheats. It has been quite the opposite. A dangerous tackle becomes a straight red in one game and a yellow in another, depending which team it is. Fifa favouritism is as blatant as ever before.

How can Fifa say they will not overide a yellow for a headbutt that the ref clearly did not see, when last time out Totti's spitting earned himself a 3 game ban after Fifa viewed the replay. De Rossi rightly got a red for his elbow, Fifa viewed the incident and banned him for 3 games. Then how is it that they will not interveen for a headbutt that earned a pathetic yellow?

Its worse this time than ever before. If Fifa were serious about discipline, then any players fighting on the pitch should be eliminated from the competition for good. Whoever it might be.

I dont regard this World Cup as inferior to past World Cups simply because most of the games have been crap. I was just hoping that this time, after all of Fifa's brave words prior to the tournament, it would at least be a strictly fair one. It has not been fair and the cheats have still prospered. Thats why for me this World Cup has been a dissapointment.

i agree about fifa...they've been inconsistent. they say they're going be more strict with yellows, diving, tackles, etc. yet, even they don't back the refs, who are following what fifa mandated.

it's appalling when you really think about it.
 

Limberopoulos21

Senior Squad
I think its time they started using video replay, referees are bound to make mistakes. They need more than a split second to make a decision. Until then wrong calls are bound to be made. Either way you can't this world cup is poor, I've seen some quality play, some dramatic wins, and some quality teams. Sure some teams aren't playing to their full potential, I still think those teams are quality. I thought the best thus far was the Mexico-Argentina one, great goals and dramatic finish. Seriously Mexico deserved better than a last 16, they're a lot better than half the teams that got through to the quaters, they lost to the probable eventual winners.
 

andy

Starting XI
Yes, this has been a really bad World Cup so far. All teams are basing their gameplay on defending and speculating. The only two teams that I see that offer something different are Argentina and Germany. Sadly, one of these two teams will have to go. It is evident in the scorelines which are ending with 1 to 0 wins. All that "joga bonito" is a bunch of crap, everyone comes to the World Cup to win it anyway that it is possible. Joga Bonito is only good for Nike commercials...I think FIFA should re-examine the World Cup and how it should be played.

Best World Cup was 1986 for all that it meant :)
 

SlayerDeuS

Starting XI
andy said:
Yes, this has been a really bad World Cup so far. All teams are basing their gameplay on defending and speculating. The only two teams that I see that offer something different are Argentina and Germany. Sadly, one of these two teams will have to go. It is evident in the scorelines which are ending with 1 to 0 wins. All that "joga bonito" is a bunch of crap, everyone comes to the World Cup to win it anyway that it is possible. Joga Bonito is only good for Nike commercials...I think FIFA should re-examine the World Cup and how it should be played.

Best World Cup was 1986 for all that it meant :)

Shutup if Argentina didn't win in '86 then what would you be saying? Hell you were too young to even know wtf a world cup was in 1986.
 

Limberopoulos21

Senior Squad
We can't have everybody playing like Brazil, for godsakes we need some variety. If you can defend well, by all means defend. I'd rather watch a team defend than attack for **** and allow teams like Brazil to just waltz in without making any effort because that stupid team put all their **** effort into attacking. I enjoy watching predominantly defensive teams just as much as good offensive teams... sure It's not the most exciting and on-the-edge-of-your-seat kind of football, but if they can do it well and not like a bunch of amateurs withoug killing their opponents or cheating its something to appreciate to say the least. I like smartly played football, not stupid.
At the same time I don't want everybody always just defending.

Look at ukraine against the swiss not exactly the best game nor really exciting although dramatic. Shevchenko was left to deal with 4 swiss defender for like the whole game. Ukraine were playing for penalties, and they were prepared for them. You could tell just by the fact that Ukraine never went to threat the swiss defence (Sheva on 4 guys cmon) and if they could, they would took advantage of any slip-ups and set-pieces I think they knew they'd have problems scoring against the swiss (none scored against them) so they figured "lets just take this to penalties where we'll excel'. They have this game plan set-up for every good team, atleast as good as the swiss or greeks and better. They play like us,Greece, except were better on the counter and better on set-pieces (atleast we used to be). Just watch though, ukraine will play like this against Italy, so Italy better be ready for penalties. If you thought the ukraine-swiss was snoozer just don't watch this one because in a recent friendly they drew with Italy 0-0. I like Ukraine, they play smart under Blockhin, who is a great coach and he certainly is largely responsible for this success.
 

Limberopoulos21

Senior Squad
SlayerDeuS said:
Shutup if Argentina didn't win in '86 then what would you be saying? Hell you were too young to even know wtf a world cup was in 1986.


86 and 70 were the best world cups... some great magical moments.
 

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MaSsiVe said:
which Brazil goal are you talking about?

Brazil versus Ghana
Goal scorer for Brazil: Ze Roberto (last goal of the game)
Location/Date: Dortmund/June 27, 2006
 

MaSsiVe

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newbie original said:
Brazil versus Ghana
Goal scorer for Brazil: Ze Roberto (last goal of the game)
Location/Date: Dortmund/June 27, 2006
thanks, I was wondering because I didn't read or hear a mention to the 25 passes before the final shot.
 

Gnidrologist

Youth Team
teccomin said:
England - Portugal :sb9: :sb9:
Well, it could be given how England is playing their worst (or at least, unexciting) football in 00'ties, but then again.. Remember the last two encounters between them in Euro 2000 and 2004? Those were modern football classics.

As for WC in all, this maybe is not the most exciting as some major tournaments from the past, but I never did expect it to be anyway. Now is the era of pragmatic football, no one plays the reckless attacking over the top football, even the teams that did that in past. Just look at Netherlands, they've turned into quite defensive calculating team after Euro 2000. Brazil hasn't been playing pure attacking style for ages, although it's still fun to watch them. Last really exciting tournament, both visually and dramaticallly, was Euro 2000. Since then it has been all the same, cold pragmatic football with strong emphasis on flawless defence with some rare exceptional matches where all hell breaks loose.
African teams still tries to play old fashioned romantic football and see what's happening, they're all out of the competition. Sadly, but this is the state of modern football.
Anyway, in my perception both Euro 2004 and WC 2002 were much worse then this championship. I really couldn't recall more than 2-3 memorable matches from those tournaments and there are quite a few already in this one. And it's not over yet.
 
andy said:
All teams are basing their gameplay on defending and speculating.

Completely agree with that (Y) Frustrating, really...

Anyhow, I wouldn't rate it as a 'bad' World Cup. At least it has been better than the 02 WC

as someone mentioned before, teams like Argentina and Germany (+ Brazil and Portugal) have shown good stuff...(Y)


anyways...
I always rate Italy 34 as my fav. World Cup of them all... (:/) (Y)
 

Bummy_JaB

Senior Squad
Do you know why this world cup is boring??? cause the refs help the "big" teams through. The only 2 teams left that have never won it are Ukraine and Portugal. The refs are told to help wether you believe that or not, I really dont care. Its still enjoyable to watch as we all love football, but the decisions favoring the powerhouse teams is ridiculous and BORING.
 


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