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Holland Casino Eredivisie Thread
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FKPartizan
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nice, good to hear, I actually saw him play when I was on vacation in belgrade for the champions league third qualifying round firtst leg, in which he played well. but here in chicago he was a fan favorite, so it was hard to see him leave, but I wish him and psv all the luck.
PSVFOREVER
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Big news for Holland Casino Eredivisie, a big change in the league: After the normal 34 matches there will be play-offs for the UEFA-cup tickets and the 2nd CL ticket.
from www.vi.nl
Play-offs om verloren terrein goed te maken
24/9/2004 9 :42
Vanaf volgend seizoen volgt er na afloop van de reguliere competitie een play-off in de Holland Casino Eredivisie om vier tickets voor Europees voetbal te verdelen. Volgens de ECV en de KNVB is dat nodig omdat Nederland 'op steeds grotere achterstand staat ten opzichte van de ons omringende grote voetballanden'.
'Het betaalde voetbal in Nederland krijgt door deze verandering een enorme kwaliteit- en spanningsimpuls', legt voorzitter Michael van Praag van de belangenvereniging van eredivisieclubs uit. 'De introductie van play-offs zal uiteindelijk leiden tot meer toeschouwers en extra inkomsten voor de clubs.'
'Dit is een overwinning voor het voetbal. Het spanningselement in een competitie is essentieel voor de continuïteit van topvoetbal in Nederland, waardoor de kwaliteit van het Nederlandse voetbal zal toenemen. Ik ben ervan overtuigd dat het publiek uiteindelijk de grote winnaar wordt', voegt Henk Kesler, directeur betaald voetbal van de KNVB, nog toe.
De opzet van de play-off is om via een knock-outsysteem één plaats in de voorronde van de Champions League en drie UEFA Cup-tickets te verdelen. De kampioen van de reguliere competitie in de eredivisie plaatst zich direct voor het hoofdtoernooi van de Champions League. De winnaar van de Amstel Cup krijgt een UEFA Cup-plaats. Beide winnaars spelen niet mee in de play-offs.
De ploegen die wel strijden om de overgebleven vier Europese startbewijzen zijn de nummers twee tot en met vijf en zes tot en met negen in de eindstand van de Holland Casino Eredivisie. De nummers twee tot en met vijf strijden om drie tickets, waarvan de verliezer via de herkansing alsnog een kans maakt Europees te spelen tegen de winnaar van de knock-out tussen de nummers zes tot en met negen.
Overigens is de opzet van de play-offs afhankelijk van het aantal plaatsen dat Nederland op basis van de Europese ranking krijgt toebedeeld. Bovendien zal er door het extra aantal wedstrijden vanaf het seizoen 2005/06 ook met kerst worden gespeeld om niet in de knoop te komen aan het einde van het seizoen.
From next season there will be play-offs for 4 European tickets. According to the ECV and KNVB this is needed to make the difference in quality between the big footbal countries and Holland smaller.
This is how it will go:
-The champion gets a direct ticket to CL
-The Cup winner gets a ticket for UEFA-cup
-There's a group of the numbers 2,3,4,5 in the league, the first in that group will get into the CL 3rd qualifying round, 2nd and 3rd get an UEFA-cup ticket.
-There's a group of the numbers 6,7,8,9 te firsst in that group will play a play-off match against the number 4 in the group above. The winner will get an UEFA-cup ticket.
I like the idea
Smaller teams with bigger chances.
from www.vi.nl
Play-offs om verloren terrein goed te maken
24/9/2004 9 :42
Vanaf volgend seizoen volgt er na afloop van de reguliere competitie een play-off in de Holland Casino Eredivisie om vier tickets voor Europees voetbal te verdelen. Volgens de ECV en de KNVB is dat nodig omdat Nederland 'op steeds grotere achterstand staat ten opzichte van de ons omringende grote voetballanden'.
'Het betaalde voetbal in Nederland krijgt door deze verandering een enorme kwaliteit- en spanningsimpuls', legt voorzitter Michael van Praag van de belangenvereniging van eredivisieclubs uit. 'De introductie van play-offs zal uiteindelijk leiden tot meer toeschouwers en extra inkomsten voor de clubs.'
'Dit is een overwinning voor het voetbal. Het spanningselement in een competitie is essentieel voor de continuïteit van topvoetbal in Nederland, waardoor de kwaliteit van het Nederlandse voetbal zal toenemen. Ik ben ervan overtuigd dat het publiek uiteindelijk de grote winnaar wordt', voegt Henk Kesler, directeur betaald voetbal van de KNVB, nog toe.
De opzet van de play-off is om via een knock-outsysteem één plaats in de voorronde van de Champions League en drie UEFA Cup-tickets te verdelen. De kampioen van de reguliere competitie in de eredivisie plaatst zich direct voor het hoofdtoernooi van de Champions League. De winnaar van de Amstel Cup krijgt een UEFA Cup-plaats. Beide winnaars spelen niet mee in de play-offs.
De ploegen die wel strijden om de overgebleven vier Europese startbewijzen zijn de nummers twee tot en met vijf en zes tot en met negen in de eindstand van de Holland Casino Eredivisie. De nummers twee tot en met vijf strijden om drie tickets, waarvan de verliezer via de herkansing alsnog een kans maakt Europees te spelen tegen de winnaar van de knock-out tussen de nummers zes tot en met negen.
Overigens is de opzet van de play-offs afhankelijk van het aantal plaatsen dat Nederland op basis van de Europese ranking krijgt toebedeeld. Bovendien zal er door het extra aantal wedstrijden vanaf het seizoen 2005/06 ook met kerst worden gespeeld om niet in de knoop te komen aan het einde van het seizoen.
From next season there will be play-offs for 4 European tickets. According to the ECV and KNVB this is needed to make the difference in quality between the big footbal countries and Holland smaller.
This is how it will go:
-The champion gets a direct ticket to CL
-The Cup winner gets a ticket for UEFA-cup
-There's a group of the numbers 2,3,4,5 in the league, the first in that group will get into the CL 3rd qualifying round, 2nd and 3rd get an UEFA-cup ticket.
-There's a group of the numbers 6,7,8,9 te firsst in that group will play a play-off match against the number 4 in the group above. The winner will get an UEFA-cup ticket.
I like the idea
Smaller teams with bigger chances.Yep more info here: http://www.uefa.com/footballcentral/news/Kind=2/newsId=238684.html
Also clubs will play during christmas now, and will not have a break.
Also clubs will play during christmas now, and will not have a break.
Zlatan
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Smaller teams with smaller chance syou mean. Smaller teams don't have a big squad so they can't cope with players that get exhausted during the long season. Whilst Ajax, Feyenoord and PSV who have the advantage cause they have a bigger squad.
Plus, as Co sayd, it isn't quite so fair cause when you play the whole season very good and you end up 2nd you still gotta play something like 12 matches more to seek that CL qualifying round. So you can still miss Europe after all.
Plus, as Co sayd, it isn't quite so fair cause when you play the whole season very good and you end up 2nd you still gotta play something like 12 matches more to seek that CL qualifying round. So you can still miss Europe after all.
PSVFOREVER
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I changed my mind about the new rule, Gullit on tv convinced me actually, we will now have a chance a subtop team will do good these matches and get the 2nd CL ticket, they won't gather much points in CL, so Holland will go down even further in the UEFA coefficients.
RBC-Feyenoord 0-4
Kalou (6') 0-1
Goor (33') 0-2
Kalou (61') 0-3
Kuijt (66') 0-4
PSV-Heerenveen 4-0
Lucius (49') 1-0
Farfan (57') 2-0
Vennegoor of Hesselink (63') 3-0
Vennegoor of Hesselink (74') 4-0
Nice goals by Farfan and Vennegoor of Hesselink (3-0)
I feared this match, but after Rzasa's redcard we won ver easily, Ajax is still playing at the moment, against Roda, pretty far in the 2nd half still 0-0.
RBC-Feyenoord 0-4
Kalou (6') 0-1
Goor (33') 0-2
Kalou (61') 0-3
Kuijt (66') 0-4
PSV-Heerenveen 4-0
Lucius (49') 1-0
Farfan (57') 2-0
Vennegoor of Hesselink (63') 3-0
Vennegoor of Hesselink (74') 4-0
Nice goals by Farfan and Vennegoor of Hesselink (3-0)
I feared this match, but after Rzasa's redcard we won ver easily, Ajax is still playing at the moment, against Roda, pretty far in the 2nd half still 0-0.
So I wasn't the only one that thought Luinge's second yellow was unnecessary. I don't even think the first one was worth yellow, but the camera angle was terrible on that one. It certainly jump-started PSV. Heereveen kind of let it go after that...
Also, in the first half Huntelaar played like a veteran star... that kid is amazing, it's a shame he doesn't have players behind him to match his skill.
As for the Ajax game, we completely dominated the first half. We got lucky.
EDIT: Topscorers 9/26:
1. Kalou (Feyenoord) 6
2. Vennegoor of Hesselink (PSV) 6
3. Kuijt (Feyenoord) 5
4. Huntelaar (SC Heerenveen) 4
I don't think Ajax has had a topscorer since van Basten..
Also, in the first half Huntelaar played like a veteran star... that kid is amazing, it's a shame he doesn't have players behind him to match his skill.
As for the Ajax game, we completely dominated the first half. We got lucky.
EDIT: Topscorers 9/26:
1. Kalou (Feyenoord) 6
2. Vennegoor of Hesselink (PSV) 6
3. Kuijt (Feyenoord) 5
4. Huntelaar (SC Heerenveen) 4
I don't think Ajax has had a topscorer since van Basten..
Voetbalfans
Club Supporter
There's a new website for the Dutch and Belgian footballfans, everybody is welcome but the site is only in Dutch
http://www.voetbalfans.com
Enjoy !
http://www.voetbalfans.com
Enjoy !
Download the Ajax vs. Roda goal here: http://friendscenter.nl/vagegast/
Courtesy of yours truly. Credit to me please.
Courtesy of yours truly. Credit to me please.
PSVFOREVER
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Huntelaar >> Sibon
And we even paid money extra for Sibon, what a bad deal PSV should have given Huntelaar a chance
And we even paid money extra for Sibon, what a bad deal
PSV should have given Huntelaar a chanceThe PSV vs. ADO Den Haag match was stopped in the 80th minute because of verbal abuse by the ADO fans. They aimed their abuse at mostly Temmink but also Ajax. It all started after a supposed "hand ball" (it was not) and PSV were up 2-0 at the time. Before the match, ADO fans had already injured one PSV fan and damaged 3 PSV buses by throwing rocks 
ADO fans are the lowest scum of the earth
Anyway, there's two things going on. A) a possible punishment for ADO which means either a substraction of points or playing a certain amount of games in an empty stadium.
the end score of the game. They'll either replay the game, play the rest of the game or keep the current score.
There's also the punishment from the verbal abuse during the Ajax game. ADO were offered to play 2 games in an empty stadium. They can accept it or appeal that decision.
To be continued...
ADO fans are the lowest scum of the earth
Anyway, there's two things going on. A) a possible punishment for ADO which means either a substraction of points or playing a certain amount of games in an empty stadium.
the end score of the game. They'll either replay the game, play the rest of the game or keep the current score. There's also the punishment from the verbal abuse during the Ajax game. ADO were offered to play 2 games in an empty stadium. They can accept it or appeal that decision.
To be continued...
Originally posted by Vagegast
The PSV vs. ADO Den Haag match was stopped in the 80th minute because of verbal abuse by the ADO fans. They aimed their abuse at mostly Temmink but also Ajax. It all started after a supposed "hand ball" (it was not) and PSV were up 2-0 at the time. Before the match, ADO fans had already injured one PSV fan and damaged 3 PSV buses by throwing rocks
ADO fans are the lowest scum of the earth
Anyway, there's two things going on. A) a possible punishment for ADO which means either a substraction of points or playing a certain amount of games in an empty stadium.
There's also the punishment from the verbal abuse during the Ajax game. ADO were offered to play 2 games in an empty stadium. They can accept it or appeal that decision.
To be continued...
Have KNVB made a decision on what they are going to do about this match.
I need to know because of the HCEPL.
I had to bring up this thread; buried and sad..
Some old news:
Man, Feyenoord have been through some rough times. 2 men red-carded in the Alkmaar game; the defenders Bosschaart and Song. And to top that off, we had a little better performance against Ferencvaros, which in my ignorance have not been able to notice much.
Now to the present (sort of..):
I haven't been able to catch both matches, but I know we won the NAC Breda game by 4. Goor scored 2! And Alkmaar is closing in on us.
Feyenoord also seemed to have signed Diego Biseswar. A 17 year old youngster that played on the youth national level for Holland. Love to see a potential prospect playing greatly for us in the future.
Some old news:
Man, Feyenoord have been through some rough times. 2 men red-carded in the Alkmaar game; the defenders Bosschaart and Song. And to top that off, we had a little better performance against Ferencvaros, which in my ignorance have not been able to notice much.
Now to the present (sort of..):
I haven't been able to catch both matches, but I know we won the NAC Breda game by 4. Goor scored 2! And Alkmaar is closing in on us.
Feyenoord also seemed to have signed Diego Biseswar. A 17 year old youngster that played on the youth national level for Holland. Love to see a potential prospect playing greatly for us in the future.