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Guns, America and the NRA

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
Originally posted by Elder
However, blacks kill more blacks it seems than white kids killing other white kids. You can link it to many different things, but the hip hop, ghetto life, fatherless culture that a lot of these kids grow up in is destroying them.

Actually that's just a perception portrayed by the media, white on white violence is just as widespread and horrible.
 

Brondbyfan

Senior Squad
You mention the ghetto, fatherless life. Isn't that the real problem? Poverty? Desperation? Because plenty of white kids listen to rap music too, in fact during NWA's later, particularly violent and misogynistic years, their audience had switched to white suburban teens. Blaming rap music for problems in inner city communities is about as stupid as blaming Columbine on Marilyn Manson. Every segment of America has its violent history and violence-glorifying mediums. Personally I think not allowing Tec-9's to be the form in which the problem manifests itself is a good step.

As for Cosby, he can say whatever he wants, and some of the criticism he took was unwarranted, but I did see some people's point that his remarks could be used the wrong way.
 

Elder

Starting XI
Originally posted by Brondbyfan
You mention the ghetto, fatherless life. Isn't that the real problem? Poverty? Desperation? Because plenty of white kids listen to rap music too, in fact during NWA's later, particularly violent and misogynistic years, their audience had switched to white suburban teens. Blaming rap music for problems in inner city communities is about as stupid as blaming Columbine on Marilyn Manson. Every segment of America has its violent history and violence-glorifying mediums. Personally I think not allowing Tec-9's to be the form in which the problem manifests itself is a good step.

As for Cosby, he can say whatever he wants, and some of the criticism he took was unwarranted, but I did see some people's point that his remarks could be used the wrong way.

I'm not saying that "rap music" is to blame for violence in the black community. I am blaming violence in the black community for "rap music" that glorifies the stuff they do in real life. Nowadays I don't know if that can be true as many of the artists just use the hip hop community as well as white kids in the burbs to sell their music. You mention that white kids were listening to NWA (I was at one point) but there wasn't a huge surge in gang violence among white kids.

So what's going on? Poverty is part of it, but I think the main problem is that many black kids don't grow up with fathers.
 

Elder

Starting XI
Originally posted by ShiftyPowers
Actually that's just a perception portrayed by the media, white on white violence is just as widespread and horrible.

I don't know about gang murder and things of that sort though.
 

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
fine, less gang murders, but that's really just a manifestation of violence among predominantly black, asian, and latino communities. Whites manifest their violence in different forms, but it is still as widespread.
 

Elder

Starting XI
Originally posted by ShiftyPowers
fine, less gang murders, but that's really just a manifestation of violence among predominantly black, asian, and latino communities. Whites manifest their violence in different forms, but it is still as widespread.

Well, it's a statistical fact that women beat men more than men beat women...

So maybe you're right. ;)

I actually grew up in a black/latino/asian community near Oakland California. Gang violence wasn't that bad, but it could be at times.
 

Elder

Starting XI
Originally posted by ShiftyPowers
"near Oakland"? So San Francisco, the safest city ever? Nah, just ****in with you.

haha,

Oakland is across the bay... I mean come on.. Mc Hammer was from Oakland!! It's gotta be hard!


:crazyboy:
 

PhiLLer

Fan Favourite
A scary thought if we all of a sudden see a rise in people carrying (concealed) automatic weapons around for their own protection. I certainly would not feel any safer, quite the opposite. You'd just have to come across this one person who's in a bad mood and ya know, he's got a gun so don't piss him off because you might have a bit a lead stuck in ya.

I don't see the point. But the thing that pisses me off the most is the NRA, their sheer ignorance. They may aswell give a medal to everyone who owns a gun and ever killed anyone with it.
 

mhflierman

Starting XI
It's pathetic. The US are a rotten country.

I've read ervery single policeforce in the land would rather have the law stay on, yet the gunlobby manages to make sure that doesn't happen. It's insane.
 

Thelonious

Senior Squad
What reason is there for having semi automatic weapons , they make it so much easier for criminal to commit crime , the only purpose is to kill people.
 

Elder

Starting XI
Originally posted by mhflierman
It's pathetic. The US are a rotten country.

I've read ervery single policeforce in the land would rather have the law stay on, yet the gunlobby manages to make sure that doesn't happen. It's insane.

A rotten country... the same rotten country that saved your country during WWII... using... GUNS!!!

Piss off.
 

Elder

Starting XI
Originally posted by PhiLLer
A scary thought if we all of a sudden see a rise in people carrying (concealed) automatic weapons around for their own protection. I certainly would not feel any safer, quite the opposite. You'd just have to come across this one person who's in a bad mood and ya know, he's got a gun so don't piss him off because you might have a bit a lead stuck in ya.

I don't see the point. But the thing that pisses me off the most is the NRA, their sheer ignorance. They may aswell give a medal to everyone who owns a gun and ever killed anyone with it.

Actually, police people are generally supportive of the right to keep and bear arms. The police "unions" (unions are usually left wing by the way) are the ones against it.
 

mhflierman

Starting XI
Originally posted by Elder
A rotten country... the same rotten country that saved your country during WWII... using... GUNS!!!

Piss off.

Ah. Yeah, whatever. Strong reply.

You're talking about armed forces being armed. I have nothing against that, I just don't get why the general public should be able to buy (semi)-automatic weapons. And don't give me that first amendement crap or "guns don't kill people, people do" or whatever. We all know that's outdated and bull****. Seriously what are the advantages of being able to buy those type of arms so easily?

And for your information, to get your facts right in the future; Americans did not liberate Holland. Canadians, Polish and British mainly did.
 

Elder

Starting XI
Originally posted by mhflierman
Ah. Yeah, whatever. Strong reply.

You're talking about armed forces being armed. I have nothing against that, I just don't get why the general public should be able to buy (semi)-automatic weapons. And don't give me that first amendement crap or "guns don't kill people, people do" or whatever. We all know that's outdated and bull****. Seriously what are the advantages of being able to buy those type of arms so easily?

And for your information, to get your facts right in the future; Americans did not liberate Holland. Canadians, Polish and British mainly did.

The garbage that spewed out of your mouth wasn't even worthy of a reply in the first place.

Now little boy, do what I asked you to do before. Piss off.
 

mhflierman

Starting XI
Originally posted by Elder
The garbage that spewed out of your mouth wasn't even worthy of a reply in the first place.

Now little boy, do what I asked you to do before. Piss off.

Masterful reply again, well done.
 

Elder

Starting XI
Originally posted by mhflierman
Masterful reply again, well done.

You should do some reading on the 101st Airborne. They helped your lovely country quite a lot during WWII.

Then you should go visit Margraten and the American Cemetary there. Then come back here and tell me again how the US is "rotten" country.

To me, you are just a rotten citizen of a great country, and can piss off for a 3rd time.

Enough with you.
 

Hristos

Reserve Team
If we didn't have guns, we would be still fighting with swords, spears, clubs, rocks, our bare fists...

... its the stupid idiots. Sure, we really don't need guns, but just the fact that they exist is not the cause of murders alone.

Still, it wouldn't hurt to get rid of them.
 


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