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"Fifa 2004 Gameplay Upgrade v 1" coming shortly on PC's near you!!!

furyer

Youth Team
To kashif

I want to ask you if there is one way to modify the gameplay only the file ini and aicpu. With notepad and change numbers and letters.

It's the only way?
Is there another possibilities with a hexadecimal editor or something else.
I suppose that EA put another thing for the gameplay a other way but where.

When i see a cross of the cpu and the 1rst attaquant no put the head but make a passe for another player , i think that you can change it. It's an example.

Thanks.
 

Arachnotron

Club Supporter
Hi,

I thank you for making this patch. It is a great add on for all the FIFA community.

I hope I'm wrong, but from what I have been able to edit, there are some things I think they can't be changed, even if you said you did change them.

Anyway, if you can, this is a list of things you should try to do:

[1] CPU (specially world-class) will play smart in defense. This means no risky passes or through passes back and no dribbling.

[2] As someone said, make the ground shots much more powerful and make the best normal shots go right to the angle or hit the post and then enter. This happens but seldomly in the original gameplay.

[3] CPU attackers will make individual plays if they have space. For example, if Ronaldo has no defenders in front of him and he's approaching the rival's area (f.ex. 3/4ths of field), he will make the play by himself instead of passing it to another attacker which comes miles behind, or shooting from 3/4ths of field. He should go all the way to the area and define it with a low shot, try to dribble the keeper or generally speaking, try to assure the goal.

[4] I like the randomness in Feel the Game patch but i think it's too accented, in terms of missed passes by the CPU. Fix that.

[5] With the CPU_WALLPASS option enabled, CPU wallpasses are great but sometimes they are way exaggerated (for instance, the CPU will sometimes make 12 wallpasses in a row). They should do it only at the wing or when trying to enter the area, and maximum 3 wall passes.

[6] Personally I think speed of passes is a little slow and first-time passes are WAY TOO SLOW. I recall seeing in FIFA 2003 an option in some file that enabled you to use a power bar for normal passes (much like the through pass power bar). If you find it, please enable it. Also, be sure to make passes a little more powerful (but not pinball-like!)

[7] Lobs are ridiculous in the original game (too little height) and they are exaggerated in the Feel the Game patch. Fix this. Also, it would be GREAT if you could remove "intelligent lobs" - this is, make lobs go where the player is aiming them to go and with the speed the player chooses, instead of going to the nearest player like it almost always happens. This sucks because when you're on a counter attack on wing and you lob, the player which is running has to stop to wait for the ball to reach him, instead of running to the ball in a forward fashion, and this is caused because the ball goes directly to him.

[8] I'm not sure if you can do this (i think you can't) but on Direct IP option (which was enabled on the 1.1 patch) there's no options on what to do if you tie (on all previous FIFA's, if you tied a direct IP game, it would show you the menu with End Game as Tie, Play Extra Time or Penalties). I'm sure you know what i'm talking about here. If you could enable this for Direct IP, it would be THE BEST.

[9] Last but not least. The patch from FifaMexico has an installer that backs up the "original" files before applying the patch. The problem is that if you already have a patch going on, it backs up the modified files (also, it doesn't work well if you have the 1.1 patch enabled). Please make sure your installer makes a backup copy of the ORIGINAL files (or prompts you to back up/restore from CD the original files) before applying patch. This is mainly so we who play online (using EA Online service) and also edit some lines of code can rapidly switch to original files without reinstalling or copying manually the files.


Thanks, and keep up the good work.
 

Kashif

Youth Team
Hello Guys... Thanks a MILLION for the WONDERFUL requests to you all especially Arachnotron who points out some the best real life aspects i've read here at the forums. One by one listing of progress of requests made:
-Yes i'm trying to make the CPU smart in defense. Basically it's not about World Class only but rather if i make it work in WC as you want it to it will be applicable to the whole gameplay as a whole. One more thing you'd like to note here is that i'm making the CPU not always clear the ball when it comes to it from a misplaced or intercepted pass. The basic reason for this being that 75 % of the time it clears the ball when it got possession near the box. Besides this smart passing play is also being implemented but you see care has to be taken. Coz if i make them play safe ball for a vast amount of time, it will make their attacks less threatening coz every once in a while when in a good position to go for goal as you said the player passes to a teammate still waiting in the shadows of the scampering defenders and in doing so the chance is gone. But after all this that i've said i'm going to find a way to get this done. You can put your money on me to get this feature implemented.
-Groundshots as i said are more powerful...
-This feature is unbelievably well worked. You'll love it when you get to feel this. When in space the player make a daunting run towards goal. Charge the keeper well he'll slide it under your legs, don't charge, he'll blast it home and not always from a shot at the very edge of the goal but from a distance where it feels it's gonna score. Wondeful to watch i guarantee...
-Randomness... Well you see as my job is to make patches i hardly even download these other patches so i never test any. You'll have to tell me what's random in it. What's random in mine i'll tell you:
--->Freekicks coming back off the post and going out off the post.
--->Keepers commiting penalties on corners
--->Bad refereeing decisions from time to time
--->The odd wonder save from keepers
-Wallpasses yes i know about that. I'm not sure if your talking about them in the ORIGINAL Gameplay or the Feel the Game patch. Please update me on that. But really i've hardly seen more than 3 wallpasses all through a 6 min match(WITH MY CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION PATCH).
-Yeah noted that for change to be made. Passing speed very good point is slow. Will make it quicker.
-Hmm. I thought about the lobs and you know i thought they were too high(ORIGINAL GAMEPLAY OFFCOURSE). Anyways I'll make a note of this too to update in the future. About the unassisted lobing nah i doubt i can make the Off the ball lobs that way. I can although do this for the lobs in free play.
-No sorry but this is not a part of gameplay you know...
-Maybe you guys don't know but my patch will be packed in an installer!!! It will backup YOUR SYSTEM's old files of the gameplay and will replace them with the new ones. When you uninstall it will reuse the old BACKED UP files.
-Furyer Brother i think your new to this gameplay editing stuff. But no offense to you or anyone who doesn't know how to even edit a line of the ini.big file. But it's simple. Just get EA Graph available from a wide range of websites on the web. Get it and open the ini.big file with it. Now it will give you many filenames in the left column. e.g ai.ini, default.ini, cpudiff.ini etc. Extract them all and save them to a location of your choice. Now they will be saved as *.ini files. Go to the location and double click on the file you want to edit. Edit them and save the changes. Now repack and install them into the ini.big file. THAT'S IT!!! You've just made an edited gameplay file of your own!!! Enjoy...
-FifaSnipers another tough task for me you've brought...:-) But that's what i'm here for isn't it? But before i tell you i need to witness it myself i must tell you that when you get near the edge of the box the CPU has to be sure not to use it's hand to handle the ball so it uses it's feet by sliding in. Oh i remember now. I witnessed it myself too. But that time in slid in, brought down my player and took the ball and cleared it away. I think it's good enough...
-Rahulm5 one more genius out there. Great request i must applaud you. Never thought of this but i have the solution even before i've tried it!!! Not sure about the over the bar shots though unless you overpower them but about the higher shots yes i can fix them. Thanks anyways...

Said alot in the above answers many new things already listed. Read it yourself you know what's new... Reason for this being--->My fingers feel like i'm pounding them with a hammer...Have fun Guys... Bye.

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one thing can you make the referee make a good use of advantege law ... I mean you can take the foul, keep the ball and at the end of the play the referee takes out a card ... no matter what if you make foul and the computer keeps the ball ... at the end of that play you will never get carded that very annoying
 

pool4ever

Senior Squad
there is a bug in Fifa 2004 when u pass the ball back to the keeper, when the keeper want to kick the ball up... it will only kick until half field.. this is not real... please fix it.. thanks
 

ushouldnoe

Club Supporter
hey bro Kashif,
I have noticed something in fifa 2004 that makes me kind of frustated .. not because of the gameplay (partly at fault) but when u are being fouled by the opposition .. u cant do quick passes (just like the arsenal way where the arsenal players counter-attack when they opponont is caught off -guard) ... so i wish u could some how make that (if possible) AND AS WELL AS MAKE some low passes ( by passing "s" ) in your gameplay.


DO you think you could do that in your gameplay? i hope you could fulfil that.
 

ushouldnoe

Club Supporter
hi its me again.. brother Kashif

do u think u can fix this?
1) it seems that whenever there is a freekick... the keeper would not deflect it into play or into the net... but to a corner....
I WOULD suggest if u could make that .... to make it more3 realistic .... (LIKE 2000 ...haha)
2) players tend to stop and wait for the ball ... maybe because the ball speed is too slow... DO U THINK SO?


well cant think of any problems for now.... keep the job going and WELL DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:crazyboy:
 

Arachnotron

Club Supporter
Hey again,

Just a couple of things that went through my mind and that i didn't mention before.

[1] Players DO tend to wait for the ball to reach them, but it seems only USER players do it. This is very frustrating, specially in World Class because the defenders are already positioned in front of the receiver when a pass is made. Contrary to the above guy's opinion, i think it's not a matter of passing speed (which, as i've mentioned before, is quite slow).

[2] "Indirect" free kicks take place at the strangest spots on the field. For example, if you're fouled in 3/4ths of the field, the "indirect" kick interface will show up. However, if you're fouled near the box, it will always select shot. This is VERY frustrating. I think I once saw some variables which alter this setting but I can't find them now.

[3] The tightness of player markings must depend on where is the marking situated. It's very unrealistic that defenders follow attackers on every move they make (i've realized this since i'm playing a tournament over Direct IP with a friend and when I'm "off the ball" most of the times defenders mirror my exact moivements. This is good for clearing space up for the incoming attacker, but it must not be too "computerized" or "exact".) The marking should be very tight ONLY very very near the area or inside the area. This goes for players off the ball but also for the player which has the ball.

If this thing is the way it should, then one should be able to make some lateral passes near 3/4ths of the field (or even little forward passes) without having a defender one inch away, and marking gets tighter as you approach the box.

[4] Maximum shot power should be raised. I've done this but I'm not sure if one needs to change the splines factors too, because it didn't quite work. It should be raised to a level that near the "red" zone of the power bar the ball will travel at a VERY high speed, and over the red zone it will go over the bar. Random factors could be adjusted so that sometimes even if you hit it at the right spot of the power bar, the shot comes out slow and off target, for example.

Hope you can do this, thanks for all and keep up the good work.

José Alberto
 

Jevrej

Club Supporter
everything you change, is already good in fifa 2004, theres no issues that should be fixed , lobing , passing, dribling can be done perfectly if you know how to do it everytime
 

DeTrimenTaL09

Club Supporter
i would like to know.. can the gamespeed of fifa 2004 be changed? and can i do it myself?

Say for example we play on "normal" speed.. how would i change it to say.. "Faster" speed as in "Fast, FASTER, fastest" and so on.. do i make sence? ty bye
 

Kashif

Youth Team
Hi Guys... I've had a tremendous victory i must tell you guys. I had never dreamed everything would be this good. I've played 10 matches and all with wonderful results. Total real gameplay all the time. Now i'm sure that you guys will love it... Can't wait for your guy's verdict when i release it. Answers to your requests here:
-No sorry JuanManuelSanchez but this is not possible. Any offense worth punishing from the ref is punished at the very moment of the offense. It's coded into the game you see so i can't do anything about it.
-Have noted down the longer goalkicks request. Will update you guys on that soon.
-Freekicks i checked are deflected into the goal and into play.
-Yes noticed this factor myself. Am trying to fix the waiting for ball thing.
-Hmmm. Freekick thing. I'm sorry about this one coz there is no variable in here that works and effects this feature at all... Sorry guys...
-Somewhat have got your marking problems solved but not completely. Just that you will see players mostly guarding you tightly. But it's gonna depend on their ATTRIBUTE EFFECT!!!
-Ball speed has been adjusted and speed is very high as you said near the red zone. But did you know when you tapped the shot button in the original gameplay, the shot was faster than when you waited for powering up near the red zone?? Strange isn't it? But it's true try it youself. Some random effects from EA you can say. But it was unreal so i made it lesser random.

What i accomplished today:
-Fixed possession problem. Now even possession with even weak teams.
-Intelligent and Smart Defense gets out of trouble by smart passing and safe dribbling opposition.
-Wonderful strategy finally completed.
-Crosses now are finished with a shot on goal rather than a pass to team-mate.
-Passing speed increased.
-Better lob height.
-Shots from CPU travel at real heights not always low shots.

More work to come from me. Just keep posting... Thanks again you guys. Bye.

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azathoth

Club Supporter
hey kashif really thanks for the help man.sorry didnt answer earlier.anyway i ll try the variables you said and i really think the evalball variables do count in terms of dribbling.You see my biggest problem till now is that the player changes the direction of the ball quite too slowly and pushes the ball too far away,something thats not right for players like giggs or joe cole.(Maybe im too lazy to master the dribbling system but dont tell anyone right?? ;) ).Anyway im waiting for your patch first and i think it will be great from what i read.Keep up the good work mate
 

rahulm5

Reserve Team
hey kashif havnt checked all your fixes so wanted to ask something..... the lob passes they always go directly to player intended ..that's unrealistic...can u fix it to be more random and make them go sometimes ahead or short of them.....got what i mean??? and crosses from wings went to the closest player sometimes even with putting more power...and always go directly to player.....is it possible to fix this???
 

Chuny

Chairman
Staff member
Administrator
Super Moderator
Is it available for downloading anywhere?
Cheers.

See ya!
 
thanks alot for answering ...I hope you can release it soon beacause the actual patch I have for gameplay is very boring ... I will not say who make it haha

Thanks
 

jawwad

Club Supporter
Asalam-O-Alikum kashif ,
its really nice to see a Pakitani mate having a go (Y) ,
well i haven't tried your first release , but will be going try your upcoming one.

by the way i live in Karachi but actually belong to Lahore :D

keep it up:D
 

DeTrimenTaL09

Club Supporter
ok u answer all these guys who send like 1 post and after 3 ( this being 3rd) and a PM to u i dont get **** but the cold shoulder? i hope its not intentional
 


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