"Fifa 2004 Gameplay Upgrade v 1" coming shortly on PC's near you!!!

[Mex]

Originally posted by 16Valve
Mex, I'd like to try your patch but I get an error when I follow your directions (error processing files). Then enabling mod, it doesn't find the mod files.
Can I install the aicpu.big like it's done in the "Feel The Game" patch? Do I also need all the other .ini's and where do I install them manually if needed?
Thanks for the info.

I think the problem with your fifa install is the MSDOS 8 char directory name limit.

Thats why its not getting into the path , for gfxpak to work it need short file / folder name support so thats why coded the program in a fully 16 bit file system.

So if you get the idea the key to fix it :
Move FIFA 2004 to c so it is cFIFA 2004

then go to this registry entry :
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\EA SPORTS\FIFA 2004
edit the key Install Dir with CFIFA 2004

Then install the gameplay patch , it should work without problems , also at the controller program have to say "Detected FIFA 2004 folder : CFIFA 2004 or CFIFA20~1 "

Once installed you can run cfifa 2004\fifa 2004.exe and try it.

( the links at Start menu \ EA sports \ wont work so thats why you gotta run the fifa2004.exe directly )

here i dont use Program Files for games location, made my CGAMES\ where i put everything

Sorry about the game controller problems, tried my best for full compatibility.

 

[thetrooper]

Players shouldnt get tired so easily, Midfielders have a fatigue of 56 in about 3 games while defenders have 0 or 10

 

[Mex]

Originally posted by thetrooper
Players shouldnt get tired so easily, Midfielders have a fatigue of 56 in about 3 games while defenders have 0 or 10

Damn right, they get tired too quickly but as i told already its kinda "imposible" to reduce fatigue since there is no control variable.

Lets see what jamal and myself can do about it

 

[ngyc]

will this patch clash with "Feel The Game Patch v1.03"? cause now i installer Feel The Game Patch in my game. will it clash?

 

[Mex]

Originally posted by ngyc
will this patch clash with "Feel The Game Patch v1.03"? cause now i installer Feel The Game Patch in my game. will it clash?

Well in most cases will be better if you restore the original config.dat, ini.big or the files that were replaced by the gameplay patch so the new one works without any problem

Original files can be restored without installing fifa 2004 again since they are at CD1 or CD2 , explore the contents

Also you may need after that to reinstall oficial 1.1 EA patch

 

[pool4ever]

Kashif,

i mean you can use some of the ball pyshic for fifa 2003.. (if they are good)
i mean like galatasaray stadium .. make higher vol..

 

[Fifasnipers]

hey what happened with your patch? hasn't it finished yet?

 

[furyer]

It's possible for your next patch 2 things :

1) when the cpu make a center, he can put a goal with his feet or his head because often the head is in direction another player and not the goal

2) for me when i put my head there is no power and the gk keep the ball easier.

My deception it's there isn't not enough the play by left and right and not center often.
Could you resolve this.

 

[Kashif]

Hi Guys. Sorry my connection had expired so i was unable to reply. Anyways work is continuing and Mex please send me you Email add on MSN. Or quite simply you can add me. Mine is [email protected]. Will be looking forward to talking to you. One more thing i wanted to tell you Mex. For some very strange reason fifa 2004's build has this mysterious quality to even use the lines in the ini.big which have no reference in the fifa 2004.exe. I'm refering to the fatigue thing. Coz when i edited it earlier i hadn't looked for it in the exe file. But when i searched it i couldn't find it as you told me. I also did not find the shot power variables, which if you remove, the game disfunctions. So i feel there is a connection between all this and i have made an updated ini.big which doesn't have the extra lines from old games. Yet i've kept with the fatigue and other lines so that the game now runs correctly. It's pretty strange. Wanna discuss it with you. Will look forward to talking to you. Bye.
WORK DONE SO FAR!!!--->
-->Defenders from lower leagues show true performance according to their low levels of skill.
-->Net is more real with better reaction when goal is scored.
-->Better ball physics.
-->Various modes of attack from CPU.
-->Better more effective strategy of play from CPU...
-->Long range shots less dangerous.
-->Better keepers.(YOU'LL HAVE TO BE INTELLIGENT TO SCORE. SOMETIMES WITH A LOW SHOT, SOMETIMES WITH A FIRST TIME SHOT etc)
-->Better optimized referee performance. VERY REAL i must tell you.
-->More fouls from CPU!!!
-->More fouls from YOU too!!!
-->Better roll of ball on the turf.
-->Better and real height for lob passes.
-->Better slide tackles with realistic reaction.
-->Some other things i can't remember at the moment...
-->A better freekick system to make accuracy more inconsistent even when the power, direction and accuracy is perfect.(This change keeping in mind tooo easy freekick system and also the need for wind or breeze effect on ball)
-->Long range shots from CPU!!!Which are more dangerous than USER ones.
-->Keeper fouls now detected by referee.
-->Player attribute effect and CPU tactical subs turned on.
-->Teams will play differently at home and differently away!!!
-->Players like Henry, Shevchenko will run past your defenders as if they were standing!!!
-->Counter attack play enabled for the first time
-->Close marking from CPU
-->More fouls from you and from CPU!!!
-->Harder gameplay
-->Better mix in sprint dribble, skill moves and quick feet.
-->More lobs passing and throughpassing.
-->Alot more dangerous crossing.
NEW JUST IN!!!--->
-->Goal's from corners come from volleys and headers. But headers very very infrequent. Trying to fix this.
-->Goalies very intelligent. Straight shots blasted at goal will not be trouble for them.
-->Direction sensitive shooting. Point in 1 direction too long and the shot will end up in the stands.
-->Ref very balanced. Makes logical decisions.
-->Penalties have normal speed and not floatation into goal.
-->Lethal shooting from CPU.
-->If you control your goalie with the charge button you will have a chance that the attacker comes under pressure and misses the target.
-->Marking more tight but teams prefer to stay in formations. So you can use the Shift+C button to dribble!!!
That's all for now. Still working.....alotttttt of work to be done....Keep suggestions coming in. Thank you guys... Bye.

 

[germoretto]

Cool.
Can you make ground passes and lobs go more far than in normal gameplay?

 

[darigaaz36]

Will the patch let us chip the keeper?

 

[rley]

this may sound a bit stupid...
do you guys have advice about what i should so as my fifa 2004 is version 1.0. Do i need to get patches?

 

[luis.miguel]

Originally posted by Kashif

-->Defenders from lower leagues show true performance according to their low levels of skill.

that's NOT new !!!

-->Net is more real with better reaction when goal is scored.
-->Better ball physics.
-->Various modes of attack from CPU.
-->Better more effective strategy of play from CPU...
-->Long range shots less dangerous.
-->Better keepers.(YOU'LL HAVE TO BE INTELLIGENT TO SCORE. SOMETIMES WITH A LOW SHOT, SOMETIMES WITH A FIRST TIME SHOT etc)
-->Better optimized referee performance. VERY REAL i must tell you.

i am interested in your referee performance...
and hopefully the cpu doesn't do counterattacks alle the time and where is the even ball occupation feature ???

-->More fouls from CPU!!!
-->More fouls from YOU too!!!
-->Better roll of ball on the turf.
-->Better and real height for lob passes.
-->Better slide tackles with realistic reaction.
-->Some other things i can't remember at the moment...
-->A better freekick system to make accuracy more inconsistent even when the power, direction and accuracy is perfect.(This change keeping in mind tooo easy freekick system and also the need for wind or breeze effect on ball)
-->Long range shots from CPU!!!Which are more dangerous than USER ones.

if i don't need to foul - there will be no fouls and if i only need to foul coz cpu do counterattacks all the time the same ******* **** !!
DON'T freekick system nobody wants that !!!
of course longe range of the cpu is more dangerous coz the cpu is very accurate in aiming on goal !!! (unrealistic)

-->Keeper fouls now detected by referee.

where to change this ???

-->Player attribute effect and CPU tactical subs turned on.
-->Teams will play differently at home and differently away!!!
-->Players like Henry, Shevchenko will run past your defenders as if they were standing!!!

feel the game patch has discovered this feature since 2001...
hopefully you haven't used the standersize feature..hopefully !!!

-->Counter attack play enabled for the first time

eh...haven't you played fifa 2004 yet...there is ONLY COUNTERATTACK-STYLE !!!

-->Close marking from CPU

pay attention on this features coz if defenders are too close uh can't make realistic dribblings !!!

-->More fouls from you and from CPU!!!

we know that coz you mentioned it above...

-->Harder gameplay

it is easy to make a harder game...BUT HARD TO MAKE IT FEEL LIKE SOCCER...AND CHALLENGING !!!

-->Better mix in sprint dribble, skill moves and quick feet.
-->More lobs passing and throughpassing.
-->Alot more dangerous crossing.

Does the CPU make skillmoves ???

NEW JUST IN!!!--->
-->Goal's from corners come from volleys and headers. But headers very very infrequent. Trying to fix this.

well...try my gameplay...

-->Goalies very intelligent. Straight shots blasted at goal will not be trouble for them.
-->Direction sensitive shooting. Point in 1 direction too long and the shot will end up in the stands.
-->Ref very balanced. Makes logical decisions.
-->Penalties have normal speed and not floatation into goal.
-->Lethal shooting from CPU.
-->If you control your goalie with the charge button you will have a chance that the attacker comes under pressure and misses the target.
-->Marking more tight but teams prefer to stay in formations. So you can use the Shift+C button to dribble!!!

it's VERY VERY unrealistic that the defense always stays in formation !!!!

all in all it will be interesting to see how and where you changed the referee abilities...you discovered this feature or the cpi skill moves maybe i give you credit in my readme for my new patch...!!!
and add this features to my gameplay patch.

all the others thinks aren't new at all and all in the feel the game patch 1.04 or in mex "no simulation" battlerams - patch.

BUT keep up working and it would be interesting what you discover and whats new in it.

one last question how you can discover/change values in the *.exe file ??

 

[Kashif]

Hey guys. Didn't work on the gameplay since my last message so no updates made yet. But i have some answers to your guys questions.
1) I haven't done anything that allows you chipping the keeper. I think you can do it already. But there is a trick to it and when you score it's very unreal.
2) You don't need the EA Sports fifa 2004 update to run my patches.(I don't have the updates myself)
3) Just want to clear up by telling you that i can increase the length of the lob and ground passes but due to the system in fifa you will never realize it. Off the ball control and smart pass features make the ball attracted towards the selected player and so the ball is hardly effected by any such change.

Luis Miguel eh... Well i see you have your own patch and have every right to be proud of it. BUT YOU CAN'T GO ABOUT COMMENTING ON PATCHES BEFORE THEY ARE RELEASED...
Answers to ALL Your questions given below:
1)You say that defenders from lower leagues being slack in defending is not new... How? Fifa 2004 had a marking system common to all the teams. So you pretty much got the same marking everytime you play any team. But the difference was the attribute effects. Like a player with Tackle rating at 90 and marking rating at 80 will be great in defense than one you have ratings at 80 and 60. You get what i'm saying? I've made the quality gap greater. How i'm sure about it? Well i played a game before one of the guys asked me to do this. I drew 1-1. It was a mediocre side so i was satisfied. I then made the update and played the game once more with the same team. I won 3-1. And i got 2 really soft goals appart from the freekick which gave me the third goal. So you see i made this observation and this is what i found. The trend continued and i won 2 more games similarly.
2) Referees well yes i've made some changes and you'll notice them hopefully. About the counterattack thing you say it's not new either. Let me ask you one thing. Have you ever seen an Arsenal counter-attack? Well they're really good at it and they mostly score. So that's what i wanted, that the CPU was better at making use of the counter-attack. That's all. One more thing. Counter-attack will be used in conjuction with the attack from various positions feature.
3) You say that you won't foul if you don't want to... Tell me does this ever happen in real life?? Do you get a foul only because the offending player wanted to commit a foul?? This is insane.. You must agree with me about this. What i've done is that due to the CPU's better use of skill and dribble, you'll find it hard to catch their players and hence in the process you will commit fouls. This is real isn't it?
4) Freekick system? I think it's good coz i scored 9/10 freekicks in the old system. Now the success rate is halved and i hardly score 5 out of 10. What you will now see is freekicks hitting the post and narrowly going wide and stuff.
5) Keeper fouls well it's 1 setting that i changed and it was a wonderful change that it produced. I got 2 penalties in 5 matches i played after enabling this setting. It's great i tell you... Really
6) Which setting you say you've discovered since 2001? 2001 and 2004, 3 years of evolution between them a huge barrier between the games produced then and now... How can you say you got the setting back then??? I'm confused...
7) Hard to make realistic soccer...You're right. I agree with you. But buddy you know i've been doing this for a long time and i'm not just anyone having a shot at glory. What i make people appreciate it and they mail in with their comments of appreciation. I've made realistic soccer patches... Just search through the soccergaming site and you'll see my patches with good ratings. I'm no pushover you see.
8) Well i'd not say they make skill moves coz i've hardly seen them make any yet. But i think i'll find a way to get them in the future updates i'm gonna make.
9) No no... I said that the defense PREFER to stay in formations. You get it... It's not ALWAYS... Due to this setting you will see more offsides and you'll be able to use the dribble option.

I see you only wanna see the difference in refereeing standard. Well it's a real shame coz i'm working my ass off with this patch and you say that that's all you'd appreciate... I see that you've already got most of the thing's updated like i have. But you see when i make my patch i can't just make an update for a part of the gameplay. It has to be a complete gameplay makeover. Now there will be many settings that i have which you haven't included in the patch. So does that mean what if i release my patch, that you don't need to make a new patch with those features and hopefully more too? Think about it...

In the end i'd like to say:
Fifa is a game... So just play and think like a gamer.

This goes for all you out there...

Bye guys...

 

[Fifasnipers]

Well Kashif, I really liked the way you answered to these questions, and ALSO the way you think . It seems that you are a Professional in making patches, I can't wait to downloa your patch. Keep on with your ideas, and Thx a lot.

 

[Mex]

Kashif whats up! added you on msn get online buddy

 

[16Valve]

Looking forward to the patch.

Luis, no offense but you're starting to make those that disagree with you sound right.

I like your patch and I also like Mex's. They both provide an alternative to FIFA out of the box. When you ask questions to both these guys maybe try to sound less accusational...as if they're stealing EVERYTHING from you and your ideas.

Trust me, you're not the only person in the world that comes up with good ideas and can figure out things.
Remember, there's always going to be someone better than you at whatever you think you do best. It's a big world.
Maybe it's just a "language on the internet" thing. It just reads like you're being a jerk all the time.
Just be happy you have a game to work with.

 

[Serginho2gaucho]

Hi there kashif!!!
are you going to do changes to the crowds??
Ive always wanted to see all the stadium stand up and jump when the local team scores, and that when the away team has the ball, that all the stadium start to whistle, and also when away team is going to take a free kick all the stadium should whistle , all this would add a lot of realism, and it would be cool if you could add this to the patch. Is it possible?

 

[cricketstar]

i dont like the idea of changing free kick system as i rarely score goals with it. i think it hsould be more realistic not harder. the ball should nto be flying miles into the stands if i barely miss the green bar.

i think my controller is messed up because i press the shoot button to stop it in the green, i get a line in the green for a split second adn then it goes to the yellow end, it sucks.

 

[ngyc]

keep going