CL | 2nd Leg | FC Barcelona vs CHELSEA FC

[bkaj21]

anyone have a PPlive link? mine isnt working

 

[solaimaa]

This discussion is silly. Rijkaard already addressed what happened at the airport, and that's enough for me. Of course its disgraceful that some fans spit at the opposing team's coach, but did you think Mourhino would be welcomed with open arms when he arrived here? You can't compare the reception barca got with the reception chelsea got because circumstances were totally different. If the first leg had been played at Barca and at the end of the game, Rijkaard spent the next 3 days calling someone on Chelsea a diver and trying to stir conflict, then yes, I would expect the fans at Heathrow to give him a crappy reception. Unfortunately for you all, nobody on Barca has done any such thing, but it has been Mourhnio, who for the 3rd game in a row has created hostilities between the two best football clubs in the world. I definately didn't expect the fans to stoop so low as to spit on him, but everyone knew he would get a hostile reception. So don't act so surprised.

And DT is right, there are only a few chelsea/barca fans in this thread, and everyone else trying to cause problems should get a life and just enjoy the game for what it is. If your team is left in the champions league, be thankful that one of the 2 favorites is going out tonight. And start praying that you don't get drawn against whoever wins, because no team left will be able to stop the winner of this game from going on to win the CL.


For what it's worth:

Barca 1 Chelsea 1
Ronaldhino free kick, drogba for chelsea.

 

[Ebonix]

Obviously with such an important match there are going to be people who will lash out and such. It'll happen, no matter how you try and combat it.

 

[Dream Team]

its not a Barca forum i visit, but a general football forum. and i dont support Chelsea, youre right tho, i dislike Barca.
and why wouldnt you want to answer for the actions of those Barca fans that spat at the bus? you accused Madrid fans of being racist, atleast the ultras minority (i agree with you on that), and would you be happy if I said "oh sure they're racist, but im not, so i dont care". you have to take the good sides and the bad of your club, not ignore anything negative regarding Barca...even if its not you spitting at Chelsea's bus.

It's always wrong to generalize. Rijkaard has given a good answer, so.. what else do you want? That's how it should be, coaches have to be examples, fans put the emotions.

You see you like distort facts too. First, it wasn´t Chelsea fans (at least from this forum who were pleased and winding up ppl when this happened). In the Hauge case it was a Manchester United gloryhunter Lee Stewart wannabe. Second, all the respectable Chelsea fans (TBB, Pede and Rob) condem this atitude. Did you condem the Barça fans who threw mobile phones and a pig´s head to Figo? I sincerily don´t think you did, i may be wrong, but i know that deep down you were extremely pleased.

I thought you didn't read my posts.

I think you're who hold grudges towards Catalan people, and you hold them for ages.

The Chelsea fans are indeed very respectable. At least one of the three you mentioned was happy with it and I'm sure he's still happy and won't have any problem admitting it. TBB condemned it and Pede just didn't believe that Frisk received death threats.

 

[Axolote]

L10NEL MESSI

 

[Vinnie Jones]

I think you're who hold grudges towards Catalan people, and you hold them for ages.

No, you are wrong. For obvious reasons i symphatize way more with Catalans or Basques, but i don´t wanna go that way because this is a football forum not a political one. I don´t symphatize with the ones who made those dispicable acts. Don´t think that i defend Mourinho under any circunstancies, in Portugal i condemned him multiple times but i just got laugh and react when you or many others make him the source of all evil. All parties have their own share of blame. Why do you think the rivalrly btw Barcelona and Chelsea reached biblical proportions? Because of both parties, don´t use Mourinho as scapegoat. Mourinho, Rijkaard´s sarcastic remarks, your media, the english media, Ronaldinho and Eto´o declarations last year turned the clash into a "blood bath".
Anyways as always you don´t respond to half of my posts. You don´t have to anyways, you can do whatever you want, but is it true or not that Mourinho said that he was a Barcelonista and that he always rooted them in La Liga? I remember clearly when he said that last year, when the Catalan reporters were trying to start controversy. He said that his son was born in Catanulya and a part of him will be always connected to that region. Why the animosity? You dislike him because he defended the club he stands (like he did on Barcelona), call it fanatism but you Barcelona fans are pretty fanatical too. Do you also neglect what he did for the club? You want to scratch him from your clubs history, like you did with Figo too? Whether you like it or not he will be part of Barcelona´s history and glory (like Ten Cate will be, because he was obviously Robson´s "right arm"). And why didn´t you respond to the pig head incident? You accuse the other Chelsea fans but you don´t rectract yourself. You wanna know why? Because you would love it if he got hit by the pig head or the cell phone, and i know it.
Btw i didn´t said that i didn´t read your posts, i said that i didn´t give a damm (and that´s only when they are not informative, when you are just trying to wind up). Btw when Deco went to Barça i was one of the first to give you info, like you were one of the first to respond when i asked how was he performing.
I´m going to bury the hatchet, theres no point in continuing this. You don´t have to answer to anything, do as you like.

 

[Sevillista]

European football is meant to be a celebration of the game we love and not an excuse for an outpouring of hatred. I'd rather not be in Europe than have to see that kind of lunacy.

This happens in all parts of the world. It's just a product of crowd mentality. When people are in a crowd and everybody is riled up they will do things they would never do otherwise. This is not a black eye for Europe.

 

[shadowofanubis6]

I dont see this on espn2 in the states.... im getting pretty angry.....

 

[Dream Team]

No, you are wrong. For obvious reasons i symphatize way more with Catalans or Basques, but i don´t wanna go that way because this is a football forum not a political one. I don´t symphatize with the ones who made those dispicable acts. Don´t think that i defend Mourinho under any circunstancies, in Portugal i condemned him multiple times but i just got laugh and react when you or many others make him the source of all evil. All parties have their own share of blame. Why do you think the rivalrly btw Barcelona and Chelsea reached biblical proportions? Because of both parties, don´t use Mourinho as scapegoat. Mourinho, Rijkaard´s sarcastic remarks, your media, the english media, Ronaldinho and Eto´o declarations last year turned the clash into a "blood bath".
Anyways as always you don´t respond to half of my posts. You don´t have to anyways, you can do whatever you want, but is it true or not that Mourinho said that he was a Barcelonista and that he always rooted them in La Liga? I remember clearly when he said that last year, when the Catalan reporters were trying to start controversy. He said that his son was born in Catanulya and a part of him will be always connected to that region. Why the animosity? You dislike him because he defended the club he stands (like he did on Barcelona), call it fanatism but you Barcelona fans are pretty fanatical too. Do you also neglect what he did for the club? You want to scratch him from your clubs history, like you did with Figo too? Whether you like it or not he will be part of Barcelona´s history and glory (like Ten Cate will be, because he was obviously Robson´s "right arm"). And why didn´t you respond to the pig head incident? You accuse the other Chelsea fans but you don´t rectract yourself. You wanna know why? Because you would love it if he got hit by the pig head or the cell phone, and i know it.
Btw i didn´t said that i didn´t read your posts, i said that i didn´t give a damm (and that´s only when they are not informative, when you are just trying to wind up). Btw when Deco went to Barça i was one of the first to give you info, like you were one of the first to respond when i asked how was he performing.
I´m going to bury the hatchet, theres no point in continuing this. You don´t have to answer to anything, do as you like.

I don't have any intention of discussing about how good Mourinho is. Lately I've tried to avoid fights with Chelsea fans and I'll keep doing the same. I've tried to be careful with all my posts. I think I've been very polite. I think some Chelsea fans have done the same.

I don't think people cares about what happened with Figo anymore. Read the topic. Of course I won't answer that. It's totally offtopic. I'm not interested on personal issues.

Mourinho was Robson's assistant and his translator when needed. I can assure you Mourinho had a lot of fans here. He lost a lot of fans last year (I was one of them) and he lost a huge amount of fans this year. Some of them really hate him now because Messi is untouchable. That's what he wanted. He takes pressure off his players. Mourinho said it yesterday.

Barça have been in Europe every single year. Though in more than 50 years we didn't have a big rivalry with any other european team and Rijkaard is probably the coolest guy in the press conferences I've ever seen. The only reason of this rivalry is Mourinho. He got just what he wanted.

I honestly like this rivalry and I hope in the future there's less talk and more football.

 

[Vinnie Jones]

I don't have any intention of discussing about how good Mourinho is. Lately I've tried to avoid fights with Chelsea fans and I'll keep doing the same. I've tried to be careful with all my posts. I think I've been very polite. I think some Chelsea fans have done the same.

I don't think people cares about what happened with Figo anymore. Read the topic. Of course I won't answer that. It's totally offtopic. I'm not interested on personal issues.

Mourinho was Robson's assistant and his translator when needed. I can assure you Mourinho had a lot of fans here. He lost a lot of fans last year (I was one of them) and he lost a huge amount of fans this year. Some of them really hate him now because Messi is untouchable. That's what he wanted. He takes pressure off his players. Mourinho said it yesterday.

Barça have been in Europe every single year. Though in more than 50 years we didn't have a big rivalry with any other european team and Rijkaard is probably the coolest guy in the press conferences I've ever seen. The only reason of this rivalry is Mourinho. He got just what he wanted.

I honestly like this rivalry and I hope in the future there's less talk and more football.

Fair enough. First i only mentioned Figo because i see alot of persecution towards english fans and the others try to escape with an image of saints when this is really not the case and your fans behaviour over the recent past has been dispicable contributing also to the fierce rivalry. Figo´s case was just an example. Like Barça fans, keep bringing up the Madrid stories of the past when it suits their own interest. If you think that the only reason for this rivalry is Mourinho then you are naive. But each to their own. The problem of debating with you, is that people acknowledge your points but you still insist in the same ideas and that´s not being persistent in defending your view points but being stubborn instead.
But that´s okay i will try to avoid this in the future.
Good luck to both teams and let´s hope there´s no controversy this time.
Case closed.

 

[ManU2000]

Anyone have a radio link by any chance?

EDIT: Nevermind, found one.

 

[0le_Spain]

Come on Barça!!!!

 

[Voltaic Borusse]

Anyone have a radio link by any chance?

EDIT: Nevermind, found one.

Post it.

 

[MaSsiVe]

what a retarded offside given against Cole

the ball was crossed by Duff to the side at most, this is basic stuff ffs

 

[Chacarita Juniors]

Post it.

I have one.

Click Here

...then just click on 'Escucha Cadena Ser'.

 

[ManU2000]

I have one.

Click Here

...then just click on 'Escucha Cadena Ser'.

Thanks, the one I had went out.

 

[0le_Spain]

Victor Fernandez is one of the guest commentators on the SER

 

[Lean]

what a retarded offside given against Cole

the ball was crossed by Duff to the side at most, this is basic stuff ffs

If Joe Cole was ahead of the line of the ball with no man giving him condition, it's offside, being a cross or not. I'm not watching the game tho so i dont know what the situation was all about.

 

[Rob]

Messi is down.

 

[MaSsiVe]

If Joe Cole was ahead of the line of the ball with no man giving him condition, it's offside, being a cross or not. I'm not watching the game tho so i dont know what the situation was all about.

I thought that when the ball isn't passed forward, there's no way a player can get it and be offside no matter what's his position on the field atm of the pass.

please correct me if I'm wrong. I mean it