pede54;2760520 said:
How anyone can say that United played well is beyond me. Apart from Rooney who at least tried hard all the game, the rest of this team are pants. The same Ferguson tactics employed today resulted in a loss to Liverpool, but he used the same system today.
We played well due to the fact most of us thought this game would be another Liverpool. And the tactics were totally different. I could go on all day about players like Valancia who are so negative to that type of play, stalling, passing back, very indecisive in decisions loosing the momentum. Or even Giggs who would rather play down the middle now. Its more like trying to counter attack these days. Evra and obertan combo look like we might get our speed back.
!0 men defending and try to get a goal with the counter attack. Ugly football, and I should know having seen my team do it way back in the past.
The tactic was to try over run your midfield with 5 of our own. Which worked to a certain degree. Your midfield was definitely stopped from reeking havoc.
That's one big advantage with having older, wiser and better players. They know that sometimes you have to be patient and wait for that chance, whereas if you watch this United side, they are in a state of high emotion and panic from beginning to end.
you seem to forget that the bread and butter of our team is about to retire. Unfortunately we have been riddled with injury.
berbatov, owen, nevillie, giggs, scholes, vds, rio, brown and then there's evra, vidic, Oshea, park ji sung, Carrick which ain't exactly young, 28ish. literally half of them were part of the 99' trebble team.
I know this United team is supposed to be a makeshift team, but really if this is what Ferguson is left with, then United are in a bigger mess than I realised.
Your telling me, the strongest parts of our team being defence and counter attack for the last 3-4 seasons have been measured, and have been found wanting. Reliance on players like Giggs.
Its not all doom and gloom though, younger players are getting better and better and its not like there's a lack of speed, things need to gel. The Evra Obertan combo for example is looking very nice but even that's early days
Evans belongs in Sunday League football. He is an indisciplined little thug with very little talent, and he should have seen a red card today.
Its not very often things like that happen, he's young he will learn. He's saved us numerous times and is getting better and better.
I'd hardly call him a thug, the lads a toff lol. He went to Belfast Crème de la crème Grammer school and got 9 A-A* in his exams which will give you an idea of his background. He's a very pleasant and well mannered lad and disciplined with an iron fist.
I don't approve of what he did but you wont see him do it again. Unlike other certain players that act fools game after game, truly embarrassing but I already know what you think off him.
Atkinson the ref, was just rubbish, but I think the video panel will look at the Evans assault and should give Evans a post match red. Droga's card being a yellow cannot be rescinded. How fecking stupid is that?
Its a shame that the ref gave Valencia only a yellow for the studs up lunge on Lamps too. That was a leg breaker if there would have been harder contact, but now he has a yellow thanks to Atkinson, that will be the end of it.
They really need to bring in video refereeing instead of 20 refs on the pitch that there thinking of doing and testing. Would put an end to all this. I quick mic check upto a video ref in a booth, problem sorted. Works in Rugby. We would never get any of the problems that have been talked about in the media of late.
I am all for a good hard game, but United have players who's lack of skills are made up for with aggression. Not chanelled aggression that is possessed by good players, but psychotic tackling that rarely wins the ball, and only gives away free kicks or takes out the opponent. Fletcher is a perfect example. He is a plus to the opposition, because he simply cannot tackle fairly. It takes more to be a good player than simply having a bad temper, but then look at his mentor.
Come on now, every team has there fletcher's including you. Its part of the game and things have come a long way but I doubt it will changed or stamped out completely. It would be so boring if the game turned to 'touch football'.
The best football team won today without a doubt.
Great, now I've got that off my chest....YES.....YES.....AND YES YES YES
FIVE points clear at the top and we are smokin'
C'MON U
Yeah yeah, rub it in, have your moment
Lets hope you win something this year, we would hate to see terry cry again.
To be honest, I think this is your year, but it wont be easy, tight till the end.