Chelsea F.C [2007-2008] Thread

[MaestroZidane]

Ace post Pede..

OrgulloVikingo, Chelsea already have a settled squad. Not havin Robben on the field is not hurting then, and Bringing in Alves will only improve their defence.

I must admit that you guys look more dangerous with Malouda and Pizarro this season, than you did with Ballack and Sheva last season.

 

[pede54]

This is very true. Stability is important. Our present cannot match our past...hopefully we can be great soon. And as is more often the case than not, we come back to greatness. I think regardless of present situations, when a player is offered to play for us, it's hard to turn down. We're still always fighting for trophies...it's not like we are never in the quarter or semifinals of every tournament.

Wow! Dealing w/ you guys is like pulling teeth. Don't you guys wanna have asettled squad already? I hope we can each get our player soon in order to move on. I know Sevilla are also playing hardball

Oh man, without a doubt Real Madrid are still and always will be almost impossible for a player to turn down if interest is shown. I still think that for a player, it's still a mark of achievement to say " I played for Real Madrid". It will always be the case.

I used to come overto Spain to watch Madrid many years ago. In fact my brother in law Laurie Cunningham played for you guys back then, and thats where I got my free tickets from. His time with your club has left me with a soft spot for Madrid anyhow and I'll never forget the atmosphere of the stadium or the wonderful way in which he was treated by the club. Even as his guest I was afforded fantastic hospitality whenever I came to the Bernabau. I remember those days with great fondness and emotion. I hope that soon Madrid will regain internally the ambience, solidarity and friendliness that was once a hallmark of this great club.

MaestroZidane...thanks mate. Yeah we do look more settled this season. So far since Roman took over, we have chopped and changed the squad every season which does not, in the short term make for a settled situation. I know we have bought in players this season but they have been mostly for cover, and should not disruptthe side too much. In fact they are being used to enhance it I think.

A settled squad is important as everyone knows. Also no club wants a player around who does not want to stay. Robben, according to Jose, still figures in his plans for the season once he is fit again. He still values him as a player as do we all, but if he wants out then let's see him give up this underserved £2 million, put in a transfer request and leave.

I think it is true to say that before Malouda came it would have been unthinkable to see Robben go, but with Malouda, Joe Cole and an up and coming Scott Sinclair, who is in my opinion a star in the making, we will survive without him. Personally I hope he stays and shows that he is worth a big pay cheque, but we will have to wait and see what happens.

Anyway....we play Reading tonight. Steve Sidwell returns to his old club and we confront the psycho that is Stephen Hunt. I hope Cech accidently gives him a massive kick to the nuts and puts him out of the EPL for 4 months.

Karma......:amika:

 

[Sevillista]

Those of you saying that Alves isn't worth the money obviously haven't seen him play enough. You can't put a price on a guy like this. Subjective traits aside, he led the league in assists last season (how many RB's can say that) and would have had a handful more if our forwards were more accurate. Fatigue never gets to him. In his own words, "I'll have plenty of time to rest when I die."

Your asshole negotiators have backed down their offer at the last minute. We'll see what happens.

 

[Arnau]

hello barça soons

 

[justhammy]

lol Arnau wtf are you talkin about?!

 

[pede54]

As far as I'm concerned, if Chelsea want him then he is worth however much we end up paying for him. It's only money FFS......:amika:

So we do Reading 2-1. Sidwell and Ben Haim need to work on their partnership a bit. A defensive embarrassement let Reading score first. THEN comes a candidate for goal of the season from Chelsea. 3 backward headers between 3 players, see's the ball slipped through to Lamps who heads it down to the floor, catches it on his thigh and slots it past the Reading GK, all this while running 100mph. Fu<kin' amazing goal.

Drog scores the winner with a deft swerving shot placed in the top corner, out of the GK's reach. Then it was all Chelsea and they just began to take the piss out of Reading. !0 yellow cards and 1 red card, shows what this game was like. I think the ref might be Graham Poll in disguise. He was mostly crap and card happy.

Reading owned most of the first half I think, with us looking ragged since Carvalho was injured and went off. No Ricci and no JT, and Ben Haim and Johnson took a while to settle down. Credit to Reading's GK. He had a blinding game again, but not good enough I'm glad to say.

Thats 6 points out of 6. Nice.

Man U dropped another 2 points tonight drawing 1-1- with Pompey. Christine got sent off and misses 3 games. They said it was handbags in the area. I can well believe that if Chrissy was involved......

only having a laugh fellas.....only having a laugh

 

[SlowSilver]

 

[dipset]

wow Mourinho at his best, the dumbfounded looks on the Reading supporters and the surprise look on Coppell was priceless.. Mourinho best manager in the world . Ronaldo done for three games , very nice , wow up 4 pts after two games , did NOT expect it one bit but boy im lovin it ... lpool sunday cant wait.

 

[Mandieta6]

ManU isn't our only rival, guys, and there are still 36 matches left. Still, good start. The Reading goal was a silly Cech mistake, not Sidwell, or Ben-Haim's. Each was covering a defender and Cech fell on them, leaving the Reading man standing. We were pretty bad the first half, and allowing a team like Reading to dominate us was embarassing. But we turn things around, and we need to play like we did in the second half every week. We have the class to do it.

My only criticism though is that Sidwell needs to stop playing like he's in Reading. He needs to stop risking fouls for any ball, when it would be much better to contain the opposition. Frankly, the Reading players look like they go out to injure in every tackle. It's their style of play, and whilst I respect that, it's dangerous. Scaring your opponents into running away from you and pushing them into a physical match is not a style that should keep you in the Premiership.

We need Terry backl. They're doing fine without him, but he's the heart of our team, and the head of our defense, it makes things a whole lot harder when he's not around.

 

[mannu]

a very good second half....jose showed us what he is made up of -doing something only a handfull of managers would ever think of doing....it also shows his belief in the team

 

[Mikey]

Dani Alves is a mediocre defender, he really should be a RM. To justify his price tag by claiming hes the best RB in the world means very little. How many truly great RB's are there out there?

Although I could care less about Chelsea, I hope for principle reasons they dont give in to Sevilla's greedy demands.

They apparently offered Madrid $25M + Cicinho and Baptista, thats an embarassing offer

 

[Sevillista]

Dani Alves is a mediocre defender, he really should be a RM. To justify his price tag by claiming hes the best RB in the world means very little. How many truly great RB's are there out there?

Although I could care less about Chelsea, I hope for principle reasons they dont give in to Sevilla's greedy demands.

They apparently offered Madrid $25M + Cicinho and Baptista, thats an embarassing offer

We never asked for that. Marca reported that Madrid made that offer to us, but of course it was bullsh*t. Marca's job is to sell paper.

Why are you guys calling us greedy? Our president has said all along that we will only sell him if we receive an outrageous offer. He's pretty much half our team, so we're not going to sell him at face value.

 

[Kulixs]

Lmfao, how can you call a team greedy for rejecting any offer for their best player. It's a teams prerogative to accept any offer, they can't be called greedy. Sevilla just value their player at more than the money they're being offered.

 

[Mikey]

We never asked for that. Marca reported that Madrid made that offer to us, but of course it was bullsh*t. Marca's job is to sell paper.

Why are you guys calling us greedy? Our president has said all along that we will only sell him if we receive an outrageous offer. He's pretty much half our team, so we're not going to sell him at face value.

I read that it was Sevilla who made the offer to Madrid, but of course that may be bullsh*t.

The fact that Sevilla didnt play Alves on Tuesday shows that they are eventually going to sell him this offseason, its just a matter of how much they can squeeze out. Im bothered by this whole situation because ive noticed especially this summer that (mostly English) clubs have been overpaying by very ridiculous amounts of money. Its come to the point now that every top player only has 5 possible destinations:

Chelsea, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Manchester UTD and Barcelona.

As soon as one of these clubs show interest in a player, his value skyrockets and other clubs have to pull out. Gaby Milito was pretty much a Juventus player (even from his own words) for a fee of about 9-11M,,, and then Barca and Madrid showed interest and his value doubled, leaving Juve to pull out. The same situation happened with Quaresma, Fiorentina and Atletico Madrid showed interest, but as soon as Liverpool came in, his value doubled. Its boring and feels like a these top clubs have a sort of 'Wal-Mart' type monopoly on the transfer market is all im saying


(i forgot this is the chelsea thread, sorry guys for the rambling)

PS. I think you may have forgotten that Dani Alves was second choice to Maicon at the Copa America for the RB spot, a spot Maicon won with his performances. Maicon is probably worth 1/4 of what Alves is though, makes no sense.

 

[Thelonious]

PS. I think you may have forgotten that Dani Alves was second choice to Maicon at the Copa America for the RB spot, a spot Maicon won with his performances. Maicon is probably worth 1/4 of what Alves is though, makes no sense.

You can't really call Alves a right back though he is much more attacking, Maicon being picked ahead of him is more tactical rather than based on ability. Although admittedly I'm surprised Chelsea are going for him as I can't see him as a player that will fit in with the rigid tactics of Mourinho, unless they plan on using him as a winger. I don't really see the fee as being disproportionate as he is such a huge player for Sevilla and with him present they have a great chance to make progress in the Champions League, which is worth big money.

 

[justhammy]

Maybe Chelsea should focus on Miguel of Valencia. He isnt less than Alves and should be cheaper I think. Forgot about him totally. Great RB!

 

[Capela]

miguel prefers ferreira to miguel
otherwise he wouldn't have taken ferreira with him to chelsea
although i think miguel is a better right back because he attacks a lot better than ferreira. but miguel's is not a great defender which is very important to mourinho
or at least i thought it was. alves i not a great defender either...

 

[Dream Team]

As soon as one of these clubs show interest in a player, his value skyrockets and other clubs have to pull out. Gaby Milito was pretty much a Juventus player (even from his own words) for a fee of about 9-11M,,, and then Barca and Madrid showed interest and his value doubled, leaving Juve to pull out.

In this case you're wrong. Last summer Zaragoza rejected 15m from Liverpool. Zaragoza was not going to sell so for less than 20m.

I agree with you though. For example Valencia could have signed Sneijder some months ago for €12m and Real Madrid will have to pay €27m.

Though I would also add the italian clubs. Milan, Inter and Juve are not poor at all. They also raise the prices.

 

[Mandieta6]

Seriously, can you discuss non-Chelsea stuff elsewhere?

 

[Dream Team]

It's all about Chelsea, my friend. If there's a club that everyone try to steal when they want to buy a player, that's Chelsea. Besides the topic was brought up in relation to the interest of your club in Daniel Alves.

Just because I don't mention Chelsea, it doesn't mean it has nothing to do with Chelsea. Actually it is something that concerns mainly Chelsea, alongside Real Madrid and Manchester United.