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Beheadings in Saudi Arabia...

Elder

Starting XI
Originally posted by The_Knight
This sick quote needs no comment from me.
No wonder you think of them as animals... and no wonder you consider the act of a government combating drug-dealers as 'terrorism'....

This sort of thinking matches with ur reply to 45 palestinians students killed druing a peaceful marching.... You simply said 'Let them die'...

And now you open a sicker thread to say that.. Combating drug-dealers is terrorism...
And that drugs sould be completely legitamite...
And now that the young 11-year old Palestenian girl shot by the Israelis was actually sacrificed by the Palestenians to be used as Propaganda tools.... Do you think that the Palestenians actually NEED more victims to be used as propaganda tools? And against a country like Israel... led by a war-criminal? Areil Sharon who was convicted of killing 3500 civilians in 36 hours... a world record for slaughtering.... You actually believe you can fool anyone with that twisted idea of yours?

I'm actually glad you started this thread... A government that combats drug-dealers is as bad as terrorists..... 45 students murdered by Israeli missles in a peaceful march should just 'let them die'.... and Drugs should be legitamite coz they don't hurt anyone... and finally... it was the Palestenians who killed the young 11-year old palestenian girl....

Your posts are self-explanatory.. I don't know why I bother to comment.

And yeah I missed one thing.. me playing Max Payne and Fifa makes me closer to a terrorist.... I specially liked that one :)

Until brain-transplants are available... I'm afraid your condition is critical. May you rest in peace.

You take everything so damn seriously... do your really think I believe you playing Max Payne makes you a terrorist? Silly boy.

You still never figured out what I am trying to say... I won't explain it again.

Now have a picture... granted, it's from a pro Palestinian protest in Berlin awhile back, and the man was arrested and charged with child cruelty, but it hits my point pretty hard about Palestinians using kids for propoganda tools. I'll find more...
 

Elder

Starting XI
From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_suicide_bomber


"In the al-Aqsa intifada, Palestinian terrorists exploit young people in the aid of terror, mainly as human shields and bomb-transporters but also as suicide bombers and combatants. Although there were many witnesses and photos documenting uses of children, the issue was not reported by the world media and human rights group until the widely televised incident when the Palestinian teenager Hussam Abdo was disarmed in front of the TV cameras [1] (http://www.intelligence.org.il/sp/4_04/images/rd.wmv). Palestinian supporters ignore claims about incitement and indoctrination of "Shuada" (Martyrdom operations or just martyrdom in Arabic) and "Jihad" in children by Palestinian Authority and religious clerics in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.

Palestinian supporters argue that most of the claims of human shields concern cases of children willingly entering areas where armed conflict is in progress, contrary to the definition of "human shield", and that the pictures that Israelis point out actually back up their claims. They also point out that it has been well documented by human rights groups that the IDF uses true human shields (people forced at gunpoint into dangerous areas) when knocking on the doors of houses and other structures containing gunmen as well as when conveying written or verbal messages to such individuals.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) claims that many of them are paid by terrorist groups such as Hamas or the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades to throw pipe bombs at Israeli soldiers, often resulting in severe injuries and handicaps inflicted upon the children through premature detonation. This claim was substantiated by the first Prime Minister of the Palestinian Authority Abu Mazen (Mahmoud Abbas). The Jordanian newspaper Alrai (citing an interview with the Kuwaiti newspaper Alzaman on 20 June 2002), quotes Abu Mazen, who spoke of how Palestinian children are being paid to carry out attacks:

"I oppose that little children go to die. It is a horrible thing. At least 40 children in Rafah became cripples after their hands were blown off by pipe bombs. They received 5 Shekels [slightly over $1] to throw them." [2] (http://www.idf.il/hebrew/announcements/2002/june/mazen.stm)
"At least 40 children from the city of Rafah have lost their arms as a result of the explosions of pipe bombs. They received five Israeli shekels (about one U.S. dollar) for throwing them." [3] (http://honestreporting.com/graphics/abumazen.gif)
Palestinians say that the role that money pays in this is highly doubtful given the large amount of stone throwing at tanks by children on their own.

The data collected by the IDF regarding the involvement of Palestinian children in suicide bombings is grim, according to this data:

Since the beginning of the violence in 2000, 29 suicide attacks were carried out by youth under the age of 18.
Since May 2001, 22 shootings attacks and attacks using explosive devices were carried out by youth under the age of 18.
Since the beginning of 2001, more than 40 youths under the age of 18 were involved in attempted suicide bombings that were thwarted (of them, three during 2004). [4] (http://www.idf.il/newsite/english/031604-1.stm)
The IDF does not, however, point out that since the beginning of the conflict:

The IDF has killed 550 children in the Palestinian territories during the intifada, compared to only 106 Israeli children killed by Palestinians. The ratio of wounded children is about 10 to 1.
They had also had arrested over 2,000 children by June 2003 alone.
Children in IDF custody report abuses (beatings, sleep deprivation, and humiliation such as being forced to strip naked, derogatory language, being forced to perform a variety of demeaning actions, etc) and said they were treated as adult Palestinians; this is backed up by numerous articles from Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch.
On March 24, after capturing a bomb in the bag of 11-year-old Abedullah Quran, possibly placed without his knowledge, Hussam Abdo, a 16-year old Palestinian youth (initially he claimed he was 14) was captured in a checkpoint near Nablus wearing an explosive belt. The young boy was paid by the Tanzim militia to detonate himself onto the checkpoint. IDF soldiers, manning the checkpoint, were suspicious of him and told him to stay away from people. Later, an EOD team arrived and by using a police-sapper robot, removed] the explosive belt from him. [5] (http://www1.idf.il/SIP_STORAGE/DOVER/files///1//28131.jpg)[6] (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/408422.html). These incidents were both widely condemned in the Palestinian press, and in the Arab world in general.

The latest incidents have caused a controversy in the Palestinian society, with most expressing their dismay at the phenomenon. Although there was no official condemnation from the Palestinian Authority or actions against the people organizing the youthful attackers, numerous publicists objected to using children to commit attacks, partly because it is damaging the perception of Palestinian struggle by presenting Palestinians as ruthless murderers, and partly because it is an exploitation of the innocent. However, incitement of children to participate in "martyrdom operations" against Israelis is still continuing in the PA.

Human rights organizations, such as Amnesty International, strongly condemned the act of using children to commit attacks.

"Amnesty International has repeatedly condemned suicide bombings and other attacks against civilians by Palestinian armed groups as crimes against humanity. Using children to carry out or assist in armed attacks of any kind is an abomination. We call on the Palestinian leadership to publicly denounce these practices."
"Palestinian armed groups, including Hamas, Islamic Jihad and al-Aqsa Martyrs's Brigades, must put an immediate end to the use or involvement of any kind of children in armed activity." [7] (http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGMDE150352004)
Despite the harsh condemnation and internal controversy, Palestinian terror groups such as Hamas, Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades and Islamic Jihad, continue to recruit young children as suicide bombers. On March 31, 2004, Raed Khuweir blamed Palestinian Islamic Jihad for trying to "lure" his younger brother, aged 15, to commit a suicide attack. He said:

"They crushed my brother. These are dubious people who tarnish the reputation of the resistance by making us look like barbarians who exploit children."
Khuweir explained that his younger brother was brainwashed to do it by an Islamic Jihad cleric and demanded that the Palestinian Authority investigate the incident and arrest those responsible for it. [8] (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/mideast_unrest) Serveral weeks after the incident, due to inaction of the Palestinian Authority, the IDF arrested Fatah's activists from Nablus, believed to be the masterminds behind the children suicide bomber pheonmena.

The youngest Palestinian suicide bomber was 16 year old Issa Bdeir, a high school student from the village of Al Doha, who shocked his friends and family when he blew himself up in a park in Rishon LeZion, killing a teenage boy and an elderly man.

On May 29, 2004, the New York Times reported (http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/30/international/middleeast/30teen.html) that the al-Aqsa Martyr's Brigades are using children to recruit their own classmates as suicide bombers through peer pressure and other techniques. One child, Nasser Awartani, 15 of Nablus has succeeded in recruiting four of his classmates, one of whom, Hussam Abdo, is still alive. The rest died as a result of their suicide bombings.

On June 16, 2004, two girls - aged 14 and 15 were arrest by the IDF for plotting a suicide bombing. [9] (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/439981.html) According to IDF statement, the two minors were recurited by Tanzim (Fatah's armed wing) activists, guided by Hizbullah. [10] (http://www1.idf.il/DOVER/site/mainpage.asp?sl=EN&id=7&docid=32081.EN) On July 3, the Israeli security forces have thrawted a suicide bombing which should have been carried by a 16-years-old Muataz Takhsin Karini. Karini and two of his operators were arrested, while a 12 kg explosive belt was detonated safely by Israeli EOD crew. [11] (http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/pag...ntrassID=2&subContrassID=21&sbSubContrassID=0) On June 5, IDF forces detonated two explosive belts concealed in schoolbags. [12] (http://www.maarivintl.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=article&articleID=9415)[13] (http://news.walla.co.il/?w=//566314) On July 14 the Shin Bet arrested in Kfar Maskha a suicide bomber. The bomber was identified as 17-year-old Ahmed Bushkar from Nablus. [14] (http://news.walla.co.il/?w=//571353)

On August 7, 2004, a 15 year-old Palestinian was killed while trying to launch an anti-tank missile on Rafiah Yam settlement in the Gaza Strip. The Israeli Defence Forces returned fire and hit the missile, and he was apparently was killed by the explosion. Later that day, in an attempt to sabotage the Israeli Gaza Strip Barrier, one Palestinian was killed and a 16-year-old teen was arrested. An IED explosive charge was found nearby. [15] (http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-2959268,00.html)
 

Elder

Starting XI
Yup...

"Sacrificing Children

On March 30, a 16 year-old Palestinian girl named Ayat Akhras walked into a Jerusalem supermarket and detonated a bomb concealed under her clothing, killing two Israelis and wounding 22 others.

On April 23, three teenagers - Anwar Hamduna, Yusef Zakut, and Abu Nada from Gaza, attempted to crawl under the perimeter fence and attack the residents of the nearby Jewish community of Netzarim, only to be shot dead by guards. For over a month, Palestinian children as young as 10 barricaded themselves in Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity, alongside Palestinian gunmen.

In May a 16 year-old Palestinian boy was arrested in a taxi near Jenin with a bomb strapped to his body.

On June 13, a 15 year-old Palestinian girl, arrested for throwing a firebomb at IDF soldiers, admitted during interrogation that she had previously been recruited as a suicide bomber.

On July 9, Israeli security forces arrested another 15 year-old Palestinian girl who admitted to having agreed to carry out a suicide attack in Israel.

These are some of the latest developments in the intifada, an unprecedented wave of ongoing attacks that has foiled the region for two years. Although some elements in Palestinian society oppose using children, or at least their children, in "martyrdom" operations, these voices remain isolated. IDF soldiers who participated in Operation Defensive Shield, for example, reported that children were sometimes left behind to trigger booby-traps that terrorists set for troops. But why are these young people willing to throw away their lives?

Who led them to believe that assuming dangerous roles in the violence will result in improving their personal, family, and political situation?

How did the celebration of violence against Israelis become so deeply ingrained in Palestinian culture?

What cause, no matter how deeply held, can motivate a society to sacrifice its children, its future?"

http://www.internationalwallofprayer.org/A-096-Child-Abuse-In-The-Palestinian-Authority.html
 

The_Knight

Senior Squad
Goody good so now we're posting pics, well for a propagandist like you, I expected that a long time ago...

Here's this father who was forced to wait in the same room with his dead wife and son for 48 hours... Some sort of self-dividing bomb shot into their place killed them...

Another guy identifying his entire family as they were killed in an Israeli raid.. that you may feel free to presume was a hoax and the real story was that they were sacrificed by the Palestenians.. ur sick...

Speaking of human sheilds... I have this picture of a palestenina child tied by ropes to the front of an Israeli army vechicle so that people would stop attacking it.. classic...
 

The_Knight

Senior Squad
Yes I wonder... what drove homeless orphans to hate the Israeli soldiers...

So attacking Israeli occupation soldiers is considered terrorism... they should just wait and watch their homes being brought down.. their mothers and fathers killed... oh and yeah.. they should do that while sniffing your 'legitamite' drugs...
 

henry#14

Starting XI
WTF is wrong with you guys? arguing about who is less cruel:| :| :|

and LilPlayaJosh is right, this is just a case of which is the lesser evil
 

Dave

Idiot
Life Ban
**** you guys


**** Elder, **** Knight (but i do understand the hatred towards Israelian people)


All Religions are merely tools of oppression of the masses of people.

**** Israel, **** U.S.A, **** every cappie nation
 

henry#14

Starting XI
Originally posted by Dave
**** you guys


**** Elder, **** Knight (but i do understand the hatred towards Israelian people)


All Religions are merely tools of oppression of the masses of people.

**** Israel, **** U.S.A, **** every cappie nation

**** you too:)
 

Elder

Starting XI
Originally posted by The_Knight
Yes I wonder... what drove homeless orphans to hate the Israeli soldiers...

So attacking Israeli occupation soldiers is considered terrorism... they should just wait and watch their homes being brought down.. their mothers and fathers killed... oh and yeah.. they should do that while sniffing your 'legitamite' drugs...

I can always tell when someone loses an arugment when they switch the topic constantly. I just provided you proof that Palestinians use children as propoganda tools...

Go fight the Jihad little one. I am done arguing with a religous zealot nutcase like yourself. You are worse than any other religious **** I have met in a long time. You put the bible thumping baptists to shame.

And it's no wonder your religion has such a bad image around the world... people like you are the representatives.
 

Elder

Starting XI
Originally posted by LilPlayaJosh
I think both sides are bad but I just feeel sorry for the innocent kids that dont know any better...

You are exactly right, which I can admit to. But don't ever try convincing Knight of such things. He loves the killing of Jews.

I mean, killing of the "occupiers". But we all know that's just code for "Jew"

:rolleyes:
 

Dave

Idiot
Life Ban
Originally posted by henry#14
I think I'll stick to your mom instead:) but by all means you can go right ahead

nah she lives to far away... but kiwis are tapping at your backyard so rather **** them than my mom. :)
 

Deutschland

Starting XI
Damn kid, I've seen some hot Kiwis, for example Rachel Hunter :hump:

Nothing wrong with Kiwi's, buddy!

 

henry#14

Starting XI
Originally posted by Deutschland
Damn kid, I've seen some hot Kiwis, for example Rachel Hunter :hump:

Nothing wrong with Kiwi's, buddy!


You know I already hit that(H) nothing wrong with seconds tho:brow:
 


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