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[GIGGIRIVA]

Gladbach 1990-91

 

[feedee96]

Thank you very much, very well explained, I think I understood everything perfectly, this should be in Jbou's thread. I only have one question, every time I want to change decades do I have to delete the folders? If I replace them by unzipping the addon's rar files, does it not work?

Yes and no... it depends on the plugin you use to avoid errors
If you only use the Jbou plugin, you only unzip the ball, settingsimg folders and delete the loc folder (this reappears when you unzip the DB-DLC from another decade)
If you use the VK plugin, now you have to delete the mentioned folders since here there are shirts, balls, shields that repeat id

I'll send you a message as I have it and if you have any questions, ask me, in the end it's just deleting and/or unzipping the first time you do it you'll see how easy it is to change the plugins and return to version 10.4 of the CP

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

Hansa Rostock 2001-02. Kits by TonyKroos

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

soon... but not too soon... Wattenscheid 09 1990-91

Before creating this team I will have to make the next teams that Tony will make the kits for. Teams that I won't tell you so as not to spoil the surprise

 

[V.K]

If you use the VK plugin, now you have to delete the mentioned folders since here there are shirts, balls, shields that repeat id

This is the first time I hear about ID clashes.

And it's really unfortunate that this happend as Giggi refused to cooperate on IDs and allocate "last planned to be used" IDs for the add-on.

Does anyone know what exactly is conflicting?
Teams/stadiums/balls, etc.?

Feel free to PM me as well to not spam here, please.

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

And it's really unfortunate that this happend as Giggi refused to cooperate on IDs and allocate "last planned to be used" IDs for the add-on.

and yet I was clear, very clear.

I can't know which IDs work and which don't. I have a database of 49978 players and about 5700 teams, I use up an exaggerated amount of IDs because I have to cover 100 years of football and I'm the one who doesn't collaborate?

Maybe you didn't understand a fundamental thing...

Whoever takes the trouble to make an Add on MUST adapt to the main patch. Not the other way around. The Add on is not my work and therefore CANNOT and MUST NOT be my responsibility. If you have problems with them, solve them after each release. You have to manage 10-15 years of football where you also have all the shirts ready, information of all kinds, sites like SOFIFA that help you. What is there to do...

I already have my work to do and I have to report to ACICOG all the ID changes for CP 16... and you know how many I have changed in a few months... These. And I am waiting for ACICOG to give me the go-ahead to tell me if they have done them all.


Unsworth David 50604 (Inghilterra 95, Everton 96-97)
Petit Jean 273673 (Francia 1980, Monaco 81-82, Monaco 77-78)
Cowan Tom 19403 (Glasgow Rangers 90-91)
Soler Gerard 273603 (Francia 1982, Bordeaux 81-82)
Rio Roger 273573 (Francia 1934)
Rada Antonio 273572 (Colombia 1962)
Nayebagha Hassan 273571 (Iran 1978)
Jerolimov Ive 273569 (Jugoslavia 1982)
Bal Andriy 273566 (Unione Sovietica 1982,1984,1986, Dinamo Kiev 81-82,82-83,85-86,86-87)
Armstrong Chris 53459 (Tottenham Hotspur 95-96,96-97,99-00)
Vairelles Tony 1512 (RC Lens 97-98,98-99,02-03)
Lilienberg Mats 21561 (IFK Göteborg 94-95,95-96,96-97)
Raschke Philippe 9075 (Monaco 88-89, 89-90)
Oakes Michael 51673 (Aston Villa 96-97)
Butron Leao 273470 (Sporting Cristal 1995-00)
Draper Mark 43 (Aston Villa 96-97)
Fernie Willie 273431 (Scozia 1954, Scozia 1958)
Hendrie Lee 4256 (Aston Villa 96-97)
Wood George 273385 (Scozia 1982)
Kouba Petr 53922 (Repubblica Ceca 1996, DB 2000)
Bauer 273377 (Brasile 1950, Brasile 1954)
Asanin Sladjan 538 (Slavia Praga 96-97)
Chico 273365 (Brasile 1950, Vasco da Gama 1945-50)
Bulut Erol 144292 (Fenerbahçe 96-97, Olympiakos 05-06, Olympiakos 06-07)
Chivadze Aleksandr 273351 (DB 1970 DN 1980) CAMBIA ID AI FILES DEL VOLTO
Camacho José Antonio 273350 (DB 1970, DB 1980) CAMBIA ID AI FILES DEL VOLTO
Joachim Julian 53701 (Aston Villa 96-97,97-98)
Deveric Stjepan 273347 (Jugoslavia 1982, Jugoslavia 1984, Dinamo Zagabria 81-82)
Francis Trevor 273336 (BD 1970, DB 1980, DB 1990) CAMBIA ID AI FILES DEL VOLTO
Grenet François 5914 (Bordeaux 95-96)
Fischer Yannick 1387 (Bordeaux 95-96)
Betancourt Armando 273299 (Honduras 1982)
Corbatta Omar 273247 (Argentina 1958, Racing Club 1955-60, Racing Club 1960-65, Boca Juniors 1960-65)
Vargas Marcelino 273243 (Paraguay 1950)
Watson Steve 11907 (DB 1990. DB 2000)
Debeve Michael 100989 (RC Lens 97-98, RC Lens 98-99)
Barton Warren 281 (DB 1990. DB 2000)
Rivenet Claude-Arnaud 12420 (Olympique Lione 95-96)
O'Neil Brian 163154 (Celtic Glasgow 95-96, Nottingham Forest 96-97)
Osorio Alejandro 273156 (Universidad Católica 1995-00)
Vos Henk 9793 (Feyenoord 97-98, PSV Eindhoven 87-88)
Szewczyk Roman 8535 (Polonia 1990, Polonia 1994)
Kachloul Hassan 4937 (Marocco 1994)
Scimeca Riccardo 104730 (Aston Villa anni 90)
Zomers Henk 273064 (Indie Olandesi 1938)
Welzl Kurt 273062 (Austria 1982)
Desnica Damir Rijeka 273061 (1980-85)
Eyobo Alain 273057 (Camerun 1982)
Reyna Luis 273056 (DB 70, Perù 1982)
Tais Washington 134595 (Peñarol 1990-95)
Laing Tony 273034 (Honduras 1982)
Nemeth Szilard 140952 (mi sa che non lo hai ancora nel database)
van Diepenbeek Jan 273033 (Olanda 1934)
Andrè Luiz 40960 (São Paulo 1990-95)
Calderon Carlos 273012 (Messico 1958)
Howey Steve 279 (Inghilterra 1996 e DB 2000)
Tellez Oscar 9706 (Deportivo Alavés 00-01)
Faber Ernest 5730 (PSV anni 90 e 2000)
Mauron Marcel 272516 (Svizzera 1954, Svizzera 1958 e DB 1940 e DB 1960)
Calado José 47127 (Benfica 97-98, Benfica 1998-99)
Hay David 272487 (DB 60 e 70)
Tininho 107602 (Feyenoord 98-99, Feyenoord 99-00)
Dolny Tadeusz 272466 (Polonia 1982)
Chu Yung-Kwang 272374 (Corea del Sud 1948, Corea del Sud 1954)
Glieder Edi 53081 (Casino Salisburgo 94-95)
Schneiter Walter 272328 (Svizzera 1950)
Rouyer Olivier 271925 (Francia 1978)
Zellweger Marc 18704 (Svizzera 2002, San Gallo 1995-00)
Baranek Miroslav 155988 (Sparta Praga 97-98, Sparta Praga 99-00, Sparta Praga 03-04)
Figueiredo Ernesto 271835 (Portogallo 1966)
Borisov Krasimir 271831 (Bulgaria 1974, Bulgaria 1978, Levski Sofia 77-78)
Robson 109363 (Spartak Mosca 98-99, Spartak Mosca 99-00)
Emerson Pereira 271821 (Colo-Colo 1995-00)
Marche Roger 271818 (Francia 1950, Francia 1954, Francia 1958, Francia 1960, Stade de Reims 52-53)
Mraz Gustav 271815 (Cecoslovacchia 55-60, Cecoslovacchia 1958)

and each ID must be changed on many DBs. Because I do not work only on decade databases. Those are the tip of the iceberg. I have to report every change on these databases.

- DB National Team: I need it as a base for any single DB for world or European championships. As well as to test faces since I cover all eras.

- DB UNICO (not working) 1870-1940: Db that contains ALL the players of the patch and that I use to create the teams from 1870 to the 40s

- DB UNICO (not working) 1950-1960-1970: Db that contains ALL the players of the patch and that I use to create the teams from the 50s to the 70s

- DB UNICO (not working) 1980-1990-2000: Db that contains ALL the players of the patch and that I use to create teams from the 80s and 90s while the 2000 teams I am slowly emptying because this database has reached its limits.

- DB UNICO (not working) 1990-2000: Db that contains ALL the players of the patch and that I use to create the teams from the 90s and 2000s. Created as an offshoot due to the limits reached by the 80-90-2000 database

- DB UNICO (not working): DB master with ALL players, ALL leagues and ALL teams. I need it for tournaments

+ DB + 1870's (X2)
+ DB + 1880's (X2)
+ DB + 1900's (X2)
+ DB + 1910's (X2)
+ DB + 1920's (X2)
+ DB + 1930's (X2)
+ DB + 1940's (X2)
+ DB + 1950's (X2)
+ DB + 1960's (X2)
+ DB + 1970's (X2)
+ DB + 1980's (X2)
+ DB + 1990's (X2)
+ DB + 2000's (X2)
+ DB + 2010's (X2)

(X2) because I am developing all the decades on two databases since I have a version without specific formations because I am constantly looking for a solution for the crashes due to the formation table

The decades you see contain only the tested and finished teams. I don't work inside it so as not to mess it up.


So don't tell me I don't collaborate... I CAN'T and I MUST NOT and above all, given the amount of work I have to do, I can't handle it...

You wanted to make the add on? Ok. Manage it.
You want to have compatibility? Ok. Create it.

Don't make it seem like it's my responsibility. Because, as you've just guessed, it's one of the things that pisses me off the most in the world.

 

[V.K]

I understand that you've been doing a whole lot of work and obviously all add-ons shouldn't be yiur headache.

All I'm saying is that if IDs 1 2 3 are already used, and you plan to use IDs 4 5 6 soon, I could use IDs 21 22 23 and not 7 8 9 to at least postpone the IDs clashing situation, that's all.

If team IDs can't be predicted at all, fine, I'll manage the clashes if necessary.

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

I understand that you've been doing a whole lot of work and obviously all add-ons shouldn't be yiur headache.

All I'm saying is that if IDs 1 2 3 are already used, and you plan to use IDs 4 5 6 soon, I could use IDs 21 22 23 and not 7 8 9 to at least postpone the IDs clashing situation, that's all.

If team IDs can't be predicted at all, fine, I'll manage the clashes if necessary.

No ID can be predicted. I had to start putting the IDs backwards because I found some limits.

If I create a team with ID 131072 and then it crashes.

If I create a player with ID 56050 and then it crashes.

Now I know a limit... but I lack the other limit to understand the range of broken IDs... and for each team, for each player I am aware that that limit is approaching. It could be the next team or in 100 500 or 1000 teams. Same with players.

 

[valambrosio]

No ID can be predicted. I had to start putting the IDs backwards because I found some limits.

If I create a team with ID 131072 and then it crashes.

If I create a player with ID 56050 and then it crashes.

Now I know a limit... but I lack the other limit to understand the range of broken IDs... and for each team, for each player I am aware that that limit is approaching. It could be the next team or in 100 500 or 1000 teams. Same with players.

On my 2010 2020s db, I have used all ids from 124812 until 123768, more than 1000 teams, and all ids are working

 

[valambrosio]

CP 16 will surely need at a.certain point to Split the db into 5 years because fifa 16 has a limit of 1024 formation ids, even if db expanded, the game set back all formations ID from 1025 and.above to a random ID before 1024 same.bug.as fifa 14 stadiums db limit of.512 ids. Counting on this, 10 years of top 5 leagues is 980 clubs so the decades divisions is already a dead project for fifa 16

 

[M8no2001]

On my 2010 2020s db, I have used all ids from 124812 until 123768, more than 1000 teams, and all ids are working

I Heard in the Fifa 16 FIP thread that also someone wrote when Team id is over the ID Giggi wrote game crashes
But if it is Not the Case would be amazing
It’s Like a travel where you don’t Know what will happen

 

[valambrosio]

On my 2010 2020s db, I have used all ids from 124812 until 123768, more than 1000 teams, and all ids are working

To be honest I have the complete top 5 leagues on the db from 2009 2010 until 2023 but I dont have time to fix all graphics

 

[M8no2001]

To be honest I have the complete top 5 leagues on the db from 2009 2010 until 2023 but I dont have time to fix all graphics

Amazing news

 

[valambrosio]

I Heard in the Fifa 16 FIP thread that also someone wrote when Team id is over the ID Giggi wrote game crashes
But if it is Not the Case would be amazing
It’s Like a travel where you don’t Know what will happen

Yes there is a ids 130000 and above somewhere bug on fifa 16 as well but I did not remind about it

 

[valambrosio]

Amazing news

Making 1 open project fille and help thread would be nice, someone adding the.kits, someone the adboards etc using the ids from the db. But the problem is that sometimes people want to add more détails.and not respect the basic program

 

[valambrosio]

Amazing news

On this mod I have only the right kits, teams have only 1 adboard set per league per season and the ball and no banners etc but at least if like this its the décade done, I dont care of way too much détails at à base

 

[M8no2001]

the base is the most important
Team in DB and kits so that you can theoretically play
Of course all other details are nice to have but can be added step by step

and then of course it’s Not Bad at all when are many people involved and ready to help but on the other hand the more people are there the more you have various and maybe different ideas which can also be a Challenge

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

On my 2010 2020s db, I have used all ids from 124812 until 123768, more than 1000 teams, and all ids are working

I was saying the IDs after 131071. So 131072, 131073...
Currently going backwards they arrived at 125372

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

CP 16 will surely need at a.certain point to Split the db into 5 years because fifa 16 has a limit of 1024 formation ids, even if db expanded, the game set back all formations ID from 1025 and.above to a random ID before 1024 same.bug.as fifa 14 stadiums db limit of.512 ids. Counting on this, 10 years of top 5 leagues is 980 clubs so the decades divisions is already a dead project for fifa 16

I know... it's one of the reasons why I don't like FIFA 16. The database editing is too limited. Not to mention the kitsnumbers limit. Then the stadiums issue and the related stadium server which is more of a mess than a solution. Graphically it may be "advanced" but the database is designed poorly. It leaves no margin for big patches.

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

On this mod I have only the right kits, teams have only 1 adboard set per league per season and the ball and no banners etc but at least if like this its the décade done, I dont care of way too much détails at à base

Exaggerated details are also dangerous. Because by dint of loading files after files you risk a game crash. It's like this for all games and the FIFA series is no exception. Without considering that you see certain details once or twice and then ignore them, others you see only if you look at the replays with certain angles. So they are totally useless. Maybe one has wasted hours of work for nothing. In the end people are interested in few things. Playable teams and related tournaments, quality kits, well-made faces. One step below stadiums and two steps below balls. The rest is oblivious. Shoes and gloves first and foremost. After two games you are not looking at what shoes a player is wearing. You think about scoring goals... and then you only see them well in personalized replays. Gloves? You practically only see them in replays. and we know well that if we are playing we skip the replays.