WTF, KONAMI are arse backward!!!

[CANADIAN.10]

In North America its easy to buy a dvd player, will cost me about $100 canadian, but in europe or other continets (South America) its not possible to purchase it for most of the people. The default player for a typical pc today is a CD Rom, not a DVD player. Konami made a wrong business decision in my openion. Why should I spend $100 to play that game.

 

[number nine]

that's not true @canadian_10: every pc here in europe has a DVD-Drive!

 

[shokz]

Originally posted by CANADIAN.10
In North America its easy to buy a dvd player, will cost me about $100 canadian, but in europe or other continets (South America) its not possible to purchase it for most of the people. The default player for a typical pc today is a CD Rom, not a DVD player. Konami made a wrong business decision in my openion. Why should I spend $100 to play that game.

Thats alot of money for a DVD-Rom.

I can just buy myself a standard ide dvd-rom for about £10.

 

[CANADIAN.10]

Originally posted by shokz
Konami did the same with Metal Gear Solid 2 Solid Substance didn't they If I remember correctly.

Those without a dvd-rom will probably pirate the game off the net unfortunetly.

I'm going to order myself a new LiteON DVD-Rom as soon as possible, the DVD laser in mine as burnt out, only wants to read CD-Rom. =( Ah well.

Thats what will happen, pirate the game and Konami will loose sales, what a decission Konami made I don't like it a bit, not a bit.

 

[CANADIAN.10]

Originally posted by number nine
that's not true @canadian_10: every pc here in europe has a DVD-Drive!

Todays's computers yes they do but what if a dude has a 3 year old pc and needs to get a dvd player, and an average income will not help him in most of the countries. Myself, I will not buy a dvd player and spend my $100 on it

 

[CANADIAN.10]

Originally posted by number nine
that's not true @canadian_10: every pc here in europe has a DVD-Drive!

My point is that a default drive is a CD Rom not a DVD Rom, why do I need a dvd player in my PC, I have a dvd player to watch movies but to play only one game, why should I purchase it?

 

[machiavellian04]

I read an article in a magazine- back in the year 2000...

It said that a DVD-ROM drive, would be absolutely essential for PC gamers, by the end of that year!!

Well it's nearly 2004 now, and people are complaining about Konami's 'bold' move... :/

/Edit/

It says 'PC CD-ROM' on a certain UK retailer's website, so who knows...

/Edit/

 

[Rob]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: WTF, KONAMI are arse backward!!!

Originally posted by valioso
well konami have a long history of proven marketing genious

And a long history of making awesome footballing games.

Something unknown to Ea Sports.

 

[valioso]

what does EA have to do in this man? I was making a sarcastic comment.. I am buying pes3 anyway.. geez.. touchy aint ya?

 

[jumbo]

Originally posted by CANADIAN.10
In North America its easy to buy a dvd player, will cost me about $100 canadian, but in europe or other continets (South America) its not possible to purchase it for most of the people. The default player for a typical pc today is a CD Rom, not a DVD player. Konami made a wrong business decision in my openion. Why should I spend $100 to play that game.

I didn't know they're releasing the game in South America...

???

 

[iceboy]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: WTF, KONAMI are arse backward!!!

Originally posted by valioso
well konami have a long history of proven marketing genious

been in the gaming industry for some time.. japanese game companies don't really care about marketting outside japan.

 

[senght]

Yup saw the DVD news. I won't buy a damn dvd rom to play one game and watch movies. I won't waste my money and time to buy a damn dvd-drive. I think im going to buy a ps2

 

[Perth Glory]

Originally posted by Mister Anderson

Calm down , Pes3 will not be the only game that will be avaiable on DVD.

I've got no problem with it being available on DVD. Having it exclusively on DVD is going to hurt their sales.
If the PC version bombs like the Gamecube version and I don't get PES4 for PC, I'm gonna be pissed.

This football gaming is an expensive hobby
Quick maths
PS2 = $550
Memory Card = $50 (for 8mb RAM!)
2nd Controller = $50
PES1, WE6, PES2 = $300
Only other game I have for the PS2 is GTA3...

Now I'm going to need to spend
PES3 PC = $85
New controller = $50
DVD-Rom = $50
...almost $200 to play PES3 - average Joe isnt going to pay that.

I've spent more than a grand over 3 years?? Jesus.

 

[TinnionA97]

Now I'm going to need to spend:
PES3 PC = $85
New controller = $50
DVD-Rom = $50
...almost $200 to play PES3 - average Joe isnt going to pay that.

If you don't have a PS2, its still cheaper to buy the PC version.

Sorry, are these australian dollars?

What most people will pay is a lot less than you Perth Glory. PES3 PC is £18 here, people probably won't spend more than about £10-15 on a controller(Firestorm is £18 quid I believe which has everything the PS2 controller has) and like as been mentioned earlier you can get DVD drives for £10 now.

That's under £50, and believe me people will pay that.

But then again I could just buy VIVA Football for £3, the graphics are ****e but the game plays a lot better than FIFA.

 

[gian]

i can get the cheapest dvd rom for 36€
pes 3 for 27 €
logitech dual action for 24 €

 

[Perth Glory]

Originally posted by TinnionA97


Sorry, are these australian dollars?

Yup, pretend money
PES is always stupidly expensive here.
I notice DVD burners are alot cheaper now too...

 

[machiavellian04]

I thought DVD drives were 'standard' these days. DVD ROMs hold a hell of a lot more information.

 

[valioso]

dvd drives are standard on most new pcs... but if you havent bought a pc within the last yr is likely you dont have a dvd drive.. is always better to use the lower common denominator for a broader reach of people that may buy your game.. so it should be in cd's, is not like is a game like metal gear, that has a lot of cynematic cut scenes that take a lot of space or anything like that, it doesnt even have that large amount of teams or anything... so I dont understand if they release only on dvd.. I will still buy it, but seems bit retarded

 

[machiavellian04]

Originally posted by valioso
dvd drives are standard on most new pcs... but if you havent bought a pc within the last yr is likely you dont have a dvd drive.. is always better to use the lower common denominator for a broader reach of people that may buy your game.. so it should be in cd's, is not like is a game like metal gear, that has a lot of cynematic cut scenes that take a lot of space or anything like that, it doesnt even have that large amount of teams or anything... so I dont understand if they release only on dvd.. I will still buy it, but seems bit retarded

I've had my Hitachi DVD ROM drive since the year 2000 (January)- I suppose I was a very early adopter! lol

Yes, I understand your argument fully.

FIFA 2003 is installed off two CDs though. Maybe PES3 is just as big?? Certainly more than 750MB.
It's taking a long time for DVD ROM drives to become the norm.

My DVD ROM drive, is my oldest component- from a Gateway(!!) PIII 500MHz PC. I've built my own PCs since 2001, but the DVD drive is still going strong in my 3GHz Canterwood system!

 

[NickPVFC]

Edit: Don't mind me.