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WORLD CLASS: Defensive Tips Here

[MRGE] Saku

Club Supporter
world class forces you to play the game as it should be played in my opinion. I was going to reply to someone with this, but thought it'd be wise to give it a thread on it's own as it may help some other players out there.

Basically on world class, if you make a mistake the AI will more often than not make you pay with a goal. It is NOT that the AI cheats at all. A clean sheet is very difficult (at least for me so far.)

It more or less comes down to defense though so I'll give you some defensive hints which I've observed:

a) turn off auto-switching for EVERYTHING. This forces you to decide when to switch players. Sometimes it's better to let the CPU handle marking on your team while you stick to marking the man you're defender is assigned to.

b) again, play defense how you should. don't just constantly go after the ball. *LET* the AI pass it around as much as they want and keep a tight eye on their passing lanes. The AI likes to play the ball into the corner so it's wise to keep a tight eye on their wingers so if you see one run off - switch to that defender and immediately mark and cut off the crossing angle. If you notice the winger early enough and mark the winger ONLY, you can laugh at how the AI likes to pass the ball around continously on that wing trying to find an opening to the winger. If you mark well enough though it will kick it back to the middle eventually.

c) Along the lines of letting the AI play for you on defense while sticking to the one man you are marking. If you see the AI make a pass and you see one of your computer controlled defenders is very near to the receiver, and I mean near enough to perhaps intercept or take the player out, DO *NOT* switch to that player. Instead try holding the LEFT TRIGGER to call in your defender to make a challenge. If they get the ball you automatically get control of the the player. Again, be wise with this though. It's very tempting to continually press and hold left trigger, getting your defenders to leave their markers and exposing you heavily. I learnt that the hard way :crazyboy:

d) I just discovered tonight what a blessing the "B" (or tackle) button is on my gamepad. I thought shoulder tackles were gone. Boy was I wrong. As an example, if the AI is driving with winger into the corner and about to cross, while your defender is almost infront of him to cut off the angle - PRESS & HOLD B(tackle). When the AI performs the cross your defender will jump in the air with his back to the ball trying to deflect the cross.

Also, use the B/tackle button wisely..Don't hold it continuously. Only hold it when you are *SURE* you are making contact, so to speak, with the AI players. Holding the Tackle button turns off your sprinting, so if you press and hold it too early you might see the AI run right by you. :)

Hope this helps some of you. I had many frustrations with the AI on world class till i learnt some these things to help me adapt. I do like it though how on world class, if you make a mistake you pay for it. Seems to eliminate the 8-0 or greater blowouts from the FIFA 2004 days :rockman:

good luck! anyone else feel free to contribute or comment. heh
 

Le0n

Club Supporter
Very Nice post. Ill give it a go trying to defend like this. When will you post your attacking thread ? :) Btw do you have and league/competition experience?

Cheers
 

sky.

Reserve Team
Thanks, although I knew most of the stuff except not to hold B, I remember in FIFA 2003 the easy tackle concept was first introduced and holding the tackle button automatically lines you up, so I got used to it.

Also, never EVER leave your mark and chase after the CPU, even if he is really close and in the penalty area, COUNTLESS times I got worried and went after him to help my CPU teammate defender, he does a through pass and the guy I was marking gets an easy goal.
 

kerowack

Club Supporter
thank you, those tips helped alot, but the best thing I learned is that I can turn auto switching OFF! I hated it, and now I just played a great game against Palace(although I F'in blew it in the last minute...hoping that's not comeback AI). Still, I played LOADS better than I have been.

Professional is too, too easy, but world class was too, too hard. Now maybe it won't be...thanks!
 

Le0n

Club Supporter
I wouldnt say professional is easy. Im struggling a little with the good teams on professional ie arsenal,ac milan. Only had the game 1 week and it took me 2 years to get any good at wc3.
 

kerowack

Club Supporter
Just got smacked around by Lieverpool 5-1, and it sucked. My next games against Man U and then a couple of games against easy, easy teams. If I haven't won by the end of those easy games, it's back to professional. I don't want to play this game and expect to be pissed off everytime. I've been PISSED so far on World Class mode......hopefully, I adjust(last years was EASY), but if not.......pro-fess-ional!
 

[MRGE] Saku

Club Supporter
Originally posted by kerowack
Just got smacked around by Lieverpool 5-1, and it sucked. My next games against Man U and then a couple of games against easy, easy teams. If I haven't won by the end of those easy games, it's back to professional. I don't want to play this game and expect to be pissed off everytime. I've been PISSED so far on World Class mode......hopefully, I adjust(last years was EASY), but if not.......pro-fess-ional!

I know how you feel. I've been up nicely 2 - 0 on World Class. Decide to make a substitution to bring in some fresh legs. Next thing I know the AI scores two quick goals which seem kind of sketchy at best :swear:

Maybe it's just me, I've noticed a tendency though where if I make a substitution the AI likes to go into some SUPER-DOOPER QUANTUM AI mode where I can already tell it's going to score before the ball is even in the net.

It's like the AI sees I'm about to bring on a sub or two and it realizes it has to put one in the net before the fresh legs get on
:crazyboy:

Ahwell, I can't complain...beat Newcastle 3 - 2 last night to move on to the league cup quarter-finals. :rockman:

Newcastle's two goals came within the last 5 mins of the game tho..haha I was close to throwing the controller at the TV.
 

Nawoo

Club Supporter
i'll add another tip

With 20 minutes to go and if you're leading, just pass the ball back and forth in your own half until the time runs out

DO NOT lose the ball even once

I was doing that in the last 20 minutes and at the 90th minute, i lost the ball, the cpu took it and launched a perfect counter attack and scored to equalise

It has happened to me more than 3 times this way. It is so ****in frustrating!! So you have to keep your concentration and not lose the ball at all
 

kerowack

Club Supporter
Update: World Class mode is done for me until I get a better team. I went from 66% approval rating and I'm now down to 12%! I'm 10-10-14, but I'm not getting relegated and THAT is what they told me to do for the season! I better not get sacked.......

Oh, and on World Class the game has proven to be no fun for me. Where on Professional a team like Chelsea can still beat me(I also tied them), on World Class the promoted Wygan athletic are hitting the SICKEST shots and the ONLY two opportunities they got the ENTIRE game went through, but on the other hand out of my 17 shots on goal I was only able to get one past the keeper. I know you will tell me to learn to shoot, but when some dumb bastard on Wygan Athletic is made to look like Thierry Henry, then I throw up my hands. My record on world class at the moment is 6-9-14, but trust me, the game has taken some wins from me with the amazo spectacularo computer comeback....

I don't WANT to have to kill the last twenty minutes passing the ball around with my defensive backs..but you are right, that is what I've had to do. Hell, one game I went up 1-0 on a penalty in the first half and passed it back and forth until the game was over.
 

kerowack

Club Supporter
F World Class. I haven't dealt with CHEAPER cpu AI in a sports game EVER. It is so ridiculous...I can be up 1 goal(and do you have to work for EVERY LITTLE GOAL) but the second that I go up a goal, the CPU passes it around like the Harlem Globetrotters and sticks it in the net with the greatest of ease. I'm so sick of it. I may only lose once every 6th or so game on professional and I may be able to win most of my games, but hell if I'm going to rip out my hair anymore over the cheapest piece of crap CPU AI I've ever dealt with.

I love this game, but there is no way in hell World Class mode is worth it...I"m sticking to XBL and the professional level. I'm so sick of busting my ass for a goal only to have the CPU be able to come RIGHT BACK almost everytime. It's freakin ridiculous.

done.

Can't wait till WE 8 for XBOX next spring(usa)....
 

Slvr_k

Club Supporter
yes prof is too easy to play...last two week i play on world class...i was played every first class team such as united ac milan..then im playing with arsenal now(4 5 7 in primier league now)its very hard to defence them..so ý use patrick and sol camp. middle of 4 4 2 ýt works a bit....(use Q+D for easy goals for world classs
 

Noromyx

Club Supporter
World Class mode is too unrealistic for me (at the moment). How often do you see a soccer game where the winner has 3 shots on goal, 3 shots on target, 3 goals. And the loser has 15 shots on goal, 10 shots on target and 0 goals. Maybe once or twice a year? How about EVERY game?

Anyway, I was this frustrated last year with World Class mode but I eventually got over it, and gave the AI a run for their money. Hopefully this year will be the same.
 

Blanco150

Senior Squad
The only way you can play in World Class is if you are fully 100% motivated and awake to play. The 1st error you make it's over. But what pisses me off is that the Ai always scores on me with a stupid header. It cant score on me any other way. And it is always the same type of goal Winger passes to center and scores boo hoo! :rolleyes: But thanks for the tips though!:rockman:
 

James007

Reserve Team
Originally posted by Blanco150
[/B] But what pisses me off is that the Ai always scores on me with a stupid header. It cant score on me any other way. And it is always the same type of goal Winger passes to center and scores boo hoo! [/B]

Why dont you mark that winger then?
 

O'neill

Reserve Team
Re: WORLD CLASS: Defensive Tips Here

Originally posted by [MRGE] Saku
It is NOT that the AI cheats at all. A clean sheet is very difficult ............



I really dont agree with that. If feel cheated by the scripting that prevents me from defending. When the ball is cleared from my attacks I have to click, click, click, switching before it will let me get a midfielder, and then its to late. When the CPU plays those crazy floated thru balls, if it lets me select the defender in the best position, he will take a step the wrong way (no matter what I'm doing with the controller before doing what he would as a defender or what I'm trying to get him to do). Now hes 3 yards behind the attacker. There are loads of switching situations and it will always give you the worst placed player 1st.
In a recent game my keeper saved from a header from the left, the ball broke right bouncing in the air, the defender who was closer than the attacker instead of trying to go straight to the ball in a line as I was trying tried to go the other side of it in a chase position. This allowed the attacker to come in a straight line and score with clean header. Then there are the times I have to chase the attacker or try to get a defender to cover a certain position and I'm on the speed burst button and think ' is that as fast as he goes?' So I take my finger of and hes no slower than before. Dont reply and tell me they tire, I know but thats not the reason.
Loose the scripting EA, lets have a clean game with more control to the player.
 

NerazZurRo

Youth Team
Re: Re: WORLD CLASS: Defensive Tips Here

Originally posted by O'neill
I really dont agree with that. If feel cheated by the scripting that prevents me from defending. When the ball is cleared from my attacks I have to click, click, click, switching before it will let me get a midfielder, and then its to late. When the CPU plays those crazy floated thru balls, if it lets me select the defender in the best position, he will take a step the wrong way (no matter what I'm doing with the controller before doing what he would as a defender or what I'm trying to get him to do). Now hes 3 yards behind the attacker. There are loads of switching situations and it will always give you the worst placed player 1st.
In a recent game my keeper saved from a header from the left, the ball broke right bouncing in the air, the defender who was closer than the attacker instead of trying to go straight to the ball in a line as I was trying tried to go the other side of it in a chase position. This allowed the attacker to come in a straight line and score with clean header. Then there are the times I have to chase the attacker or try to get a defender to cover a certain position and I'm on the speed burst button and think ' is that as fast as he goes?' So I take my finger of and hes no slower than before. Dont reply and tell me they tire, I know but thats not the reason.
Loose the scripting EA, lets have a clean game with more control to the player.
Very true.

Whether the CPU AI cheats or not depends on how you look at it:

Video gamer's perspective: AI never cheats, in order to beat it you just have to learn certain button combinations, tricks, sweetspots etc.. and use them in certain situations.

Football fan's perspective: You'd expect a FOOTBALL game to play like real FOOTBALL. So if in certain situations you see the CPU AI do stuff you've never ever seen done before in real football then naturally the AI is cheating.
 

SuRFy

Starting XI
i dont think the bloody cpu cheats i can get clean sheets in world class with the very best teams but i cant with the bad ones its realistic enough
 


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