Was the Armenian "Deportation" a "genocide"?

[Rob]

Bull****. Recognizing the genocide is not a precondition of joining the EU.

Correction: deportation.

 

[RobbieD_PL]

Correction: deportation.

Yeh, Turkey would never want to join the EU if that brandishing of the word genocide was forced upon them

 

[Vagegast]

USA is losing their allies one by one and this is something that every American citizen should be concerned of, not the Armenian issue.

Y'll need us more than we need you. Don't forget.

 

[RobbieD_PL]

Y'll need us more than we need you. Don't forget.

Yeh they have Saudi Arabia and Jordan ffs

 

[Sir Calumn]

Correction: deportation.

 

[CapaJr]

For those that wants to learn the truth and not lies from fellow crusaders;

Episode 1

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KeBpQUunE_Y

Episode 2

http://youtube.com/watch?v=g6YJwHR8aXw&mode=related&search=

Episode 3

http://youtube.com/watch?v=o7Q77jAaIhk&mode=related&search=

Episode 4

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fr0kWla0UFs&mode=related&search=

Episode 5

http://youtube.com/watch?v=C_p7lh2m8Vw&mode=related&search=


This takes about 30 min. but after this half hour , you will know the truth.
I have one question though, if 1.5 million people actually died? where are the mass graves?
1.5 million human bones, yet they havent been discovered yet.
How unlikely.....
:X

 

[Joe]

How come what you believe is the truth when the knowledge centers of the world, except in Turkey nearly all agree that it was? Answer that directly please.

Where are the bones? Aren't they in Turkey? Why would Turkey allow that to happen if they want to preserve their view of it as a non-genocide?

 

[Joe]

Let me also make note, I couldn't find within my notes, but it was one of the comments:

" Deportation of the Armenians from their homes in the vilayets of Eastern Anatolia, and their resettlement in other regions is implemented cruelly it becomes obvious that deportation of the Armenians arises not only from military necessity." Talaat said: "The Sublime Porte intends to make use of the world war for cleaning the whole country from local Christians".

Just like Germany needed a war to veil their genocide...

 

[CapaJr]

How come what you believe is the truth when the knowledge centers of the world, except in Turkey nearly all agree that it was? Answer that directly please.

Where are the bones? Aren't they in Turkey? Why would Turkey allow that to happen if they want to preserve their view of it as a non-genocide?

I just find it humiliating that without absolutely no proof at all, Turkey faces the accusation of creating a genocide.
We are talking about 1.5 million human bones. You are telling me that nobody until now managed to dig up at least 100 or 200?
And how come this so-called genocide is the topic of the world after nearly 10 decades.
Why do you think is it now?
What happened to "your" hunger for truth during the last 70-80 years?
Lets not chat now. I would really be happy if you spent the next 30 minutes watching this documentry, and then post a msg.

Even in court, dont you have to hear the story from both sides?


ps- Turkish historians offered Armenian historians to sit down and share historical facts and proofs one by one, and solve this issue.
However Armenians rejected, if they are so sure about it, they would have accepted the offer than make sure the whole world knows they have proved the existance of a massacre.

 

[Joe]

I will watch it this evening when I have time and get back to you.

I was able to see the first segment which was discussing Armenian bombings in recent times. Not quite sure how that relates to 100 years ago and mass killings...

 

[CapaJr]

Y'll need us more than we need you. Don't forget.

Its true we need you. But we need you because of economical reasons.
CNN just had breaking news, Putin invited Ahmedinejad to Moscow and said Iran needs to be left alone and continue their nuclear development for peaceful purposes.
Now lets examine where two countries are located.
One in the middle of middle east, and possibly one of the strongest (Iran)
Second country is right at the corner of middle east, with extreme interest on the region, its one of the leading forces, member of G-8 (Russia)

At this point my friend, Turkey's location comes to mind.
Being in between europe and middle east, Turkey used to be United States biggest ally when they needed to deal with middle east.

To give you another example of this alliance, lets go back in time a little..
During the cold war, Russia once even threatened to bomb the American bases in Turkey, if United States ever attacked Cuba.

Russia-Iran, you might underestimate their possible allience but trust me, its much bigger threat than what you face in Iraq.
And if there is ever be crisis, guess which country you would rely on because of its strategical advantages? And what if, that advantage becomes a disadvantage?

Sacrificing Turkey for this Armenian lie will be a much bigger expense to you than you could imagine.

 

[CapaJr]

I will watch it this evening when I have time and get back to you.

I was able to see the first segment which was discussing Armenian bombings in recent times. Not quite sure how that relates to 100 years ago and mass killings...

I believe you Joe, let me know what you think once you finished watching.

 

[Joe]

All these videos did was interview people like you who weren't even around during the time period saying what they think about Armenia and what they heard from their grandparents and their government. Haha, ridiculous dude. And the video is making the EXACT same allegations the Ottomans did--Armenia attempting to gain their own rights and their own land which ended up getting them killed as a nuisance.

Of course they rebelled. We never denied there were rebels. If you had no rights or say in the state you were in, I suspect you would rebel too, no? That doesn't mean you can kill their entire population.

Why does it matter what Armenians did after the fact? We're not talking about what happened AFTER the genocide, of course Hitler knew he could rely on Armenians to enact vengeance from mass killings that occurred only 25 years earlier. There were plenty of other states that joined Hitler too during the war that we don't look down upon today for it.

There are so many things that REEK of propaganda within this I don't know where to begin, so I won't. Just because the government said, "We love all religions and believers we treat them as equals" doesn't mean that's what they really believe or has any indication of how they would act.

Do you need a prime example? My US government with Iraq. Many lies. Say one "official" thing and do something else. And at least I'm open to admit it. Why aren't you open to admit yours? I'm open to admit my government was horribly wrong in killing Native Americans who had just as much right to their land as ours. I can see propaganda now and in the past and see how my government tried to twist the truth for their own gain...why can't you?

This is what we call a far-fetched conspiracy theory. This discussion is over. You're an idiot.

...or maybe I'm just part of the huge Armenian conspiracy.