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http://www.friendscenter.nl/vagegast/He Forget Poland.aviOriginally posted by rony31
what's the whole "he forgot Poland" thing about?
He kept on bringing religion up and started quoting the Bible... which is what you expect Bush to do. When he was asked about abortion, he talked about faith. I'm not sure it was good or bad. Here's a bit:Originally posted by Run DMB
What did Kerry say on religion? I missed the debate.
He quoted JFK a couple more times too.Now, with respect to religion, you know, as I said, I grew up a Catholic. I was an altar boy. I know that throughout my life this has made a difference to me.
And as President Kennedy said when he ran for president, he said, I'm not running to be a Catholic president. I'm running to be a president who happens to be Catholic.
My faith affects everything that I do, in truth. There's a great passage of the Bible that says, What does it mean, my brother, to say you have faith if there are no deeds? Faith without works is dead.
And I think that everything you do in public life has to be guided by your faith, affected by your faith, but without transferring it in any official way to other people.
That's why I fight against poverty. That's why I fight to clean up the environment and protect this earth.
That's why I fight for equality and justice. All of those things come out of that fundamental teaching and belief of faith.
But I know this, that President Kennedy in his inaugural address told all of us that here on Earth, God's work must truly be our own. And that's what we have to – I think that's the test of public service.
Originally posted by rhizome17
Great to see you still supporting your candidate, comrade
Originally posted by Vagegast
http://www.friendscenter.nl/vagegast/He Forget Poland.avi He kept on bringing religion up and started quoting the Bible... which is what you expect Bush to do. When he was asked about abortion, he talked about faith. I'm not sure it was good or bad. Here's a bit:He quoted JFK a couple more times too.
Originally posted by Elder
I dislike Kerry... so if Bush beats him in a debate, then I am happy about that.
Commie pinko.
Originally posted by rhizome17
Hey, if a pro-abortion, bible-thumping, faith-based-initiative, big-spending President is what gets you 'libertarians' in the US going, it's your choice
And you are the one wanting the 'abolition of religion', meaning you have more in common with Stalin than I do
Just as well you are voting Bush this election, eh.
Originally posted by PhiLLer
Stayed up till 4.30am to watch the debate
I didn't see the previous two debates but I thought that Kerry won this one. He was calm, always had an answer ready, faced right into the camera everytime he spoke whereas Bush only did that for a few seconds every so often, Bush was facing the moderator the entire time. He seemed a bit nervous trying to be funny at times when it just made him look utterly stupid with that dumb redneck fake laugh of his.
If I had muted the sound on my TV and didn't know what each of their policies were etc. I would certainly have voted for Kerry just at the posture he has, he seems like a strong president whereas Bush looks like a lost puppy at times, at times I thought Kerry was the actual president and Bush the challenger!
As for their responses, I like more what Kerry had to say, Bush diverted on a couple of issues including imigration whe he suddenly started talking about education.
What seemed to be the theme of the evening were numbers, how many times they voted for or against this, that and the other and how many dollars were spent or lost doing this etc.
Bush got caught out on a few of the issues when Kerry clearly had the upper hand, controlling the debate.
Obviously people who support Bush (which I seriously can't believe anyone is still doing - even if I was Republican I still wouldn't vote Bush!) will say Bush one, it always goes like that but some of the political analysts on CNN also thought Kerry perhaps just about won this one.
Either way, Bush has to go. Either someone shoots him or Kerry gets elected president, I don't care.
Originally posted by Elder
Anyway, who cares what you think regarding this election anyway.
Originally posted by Elder
If you hadn't noticed, our government doesn't endorse a particular religion. That's right in line with my beliefs regarding government.
Originally posted by PhiLLer
Stayed up till 4.30am to watch the debate
I didn't see the previous two debates but I thought that Kerry won this one. He was calm, always had an answer ready, faced right into the camera everytime he spoke whereas Bush only did that for a few seconds every so often, Bush was facing the moderator the entire time. He seemed a bit nervous trying to be funny at times when it just made him look utterly stupid with that dumb redneck fake laugh of his.
If I had muted the sound on my TV and didn't know what each of their policies were etc. I would certainly have voted for Kerry just at the posture he has, he seems like a strong president whereas Bush looks like a lost puppy at times, at times I thought Kerry was the actual president and Bush the challenger!
As for their responses, I like more what Kerry had to say, Bush diverted on a couple of issues including imigration whe he suddenly started talking about education.
What seemed to be the theme of the evening were numbers, how many times they voted for or against this, that and the other and how many dollars were spent or lost doing this etc.
Bush got caught out on a few of the issues when Kerry clearly had the upper hand, controlling the debate.
Obviously people who support Bush (which I seriously can't believe anyone is still doing - even if I was Republican I still wouldn't vote Bush!) will say Bush one, it always goes like that but some of the political analysts on CNN also thought Kerry perhaps just about won this one.
Either way, Bush has to go. Either someone shoots him or Kerry gets elected president, I don't care.
Originally posted by Pontiakos
I think at this point the entire world(minus Britain and Israel) is collectively praying for Bush to loose.