The Wolf FM2005 Option File Update

[Scratch-Br]

Yes, true, but club ones are the most requested (Shaktar and Basel principally)
Other national teams i've told because they're just in a good position to reach 2006WC.

 

[elth]

just to confirm Wolf, I've tested it myself.. if you keep the Classic teams and Classic players unlocked, they won't be in the market in your ML game at all

 

[PaPaGeorGeo]

Yeh i would love like a Europe all stars and a south American all starts like in we7i. Does anyone know if these teams are in the game and just need to be unlocked?

 

[TristanAbbott7]

In that case it's probably just best to keep the classic teams/players locked. I'm gonna replace the ML default squad because obviously they're all Mickey Mouse players.

Regarding players keeping their default stats going into the ML. I'm gonna see if Yannick can update his editor so that we can write to the .exe file i nthe same way WEditor used to be able to.

 

[Scratch-Br]

So, it'll be... "forbidden" to unlock classic players and teams?

 

[Tomppa74]

When you created new players to your earlier patch like S. Walton or Elvis Hammond you gave them pretty low attributes and rightly so. But when I checked them in Master League they had almost all attributes over 80. Does that mean that editing player only affects his name but not his attributes. So in ML edited players have default players' attributes even if in exhibition matches they have edited attributes. Now I'm guessing that you created Walton and Hammond over some players with high attributes. Or why does their attributes were sky high in ML?

If that's the case it is useless to create new players over Pele and co. cause they would still have superb attributes in ML. Just keep them locked if there is now way around this.

 

[TristanAbbott7]

That's what I was thinking. For the same reason it's questionable about removing duplicate players from the game at the moment as they still appear with their original stats in ML regardless of who you've made them into. I don't know what's more unrealistic - 2 Van Nistelrooys or a player with Van Nistelrooys stats when he should be closer to somebody like Heskey's stats.

Konami really screwed up Masters League this time around with this crap. There are a number of things which make ML a pain in the ass:

1 - The inability to be able to turn transfers off period.
2 - The inability to be able to turn off transferring classic team players.
3 - The defaulting of stats to their pre-edited value for players you've edited over in the game.
4 - Duplicates! What's the point? Rather than having duplicates, why didn't they have for the Holland squad just open slots where you could transfer in the players you needed to.
5 - Two divisions only. It was way more fun in PES2 when you had to work your way up through more divisions.
6 - Locking the difficulty level in ML. What happens as you get better and want to keep your existing save but you can't because the difficlty level can't be changed?

I'm hoping Yannick can come through with enabling the editing of the .exe file so we can have a more realistic game. It's a pity Konami won't get with people like me and others on these forums and co-operate to make the game better. If you write to them they either ignore you or are almost rude in their "no thanks". The CM (and now FM) series have been notorious for getting fans involved in helping with research etc. and even FIFA reached out ot the FIFA community last year to help with research. Sure, the gameplay still sucked but their database and depth is unrivalled.

I'm going to go ahead and finish converting every players stats to FM2005/CM4 database values and hope by the time I've finished updating the transfers and squad lineups that Yannick may have a breakthrough on how to do it. I'm figuriing if anybody is capable of pulling it off he is as his editor is top notch so far and it's still in development.

 

[TristanAbbott7]

Check out the real ages of many of the Romanian, Russian, Welsh or Scottish squads in PES4 compared to real life. Some of them are so far out it's dumb!

Makes you wonder how much research they did into the stats which is why I think this FM2005/CM4 update is needed.

 

[Gnidrologist]

Yes, ability to edit Pes4.exe file is deperately needed. I'd say that Konami has found reasonably good balance between superstars and medicore players, also they're quite aware of player's abilities, even less known ones (I was surprised how accurate appearances and stats for Latvia squad are made). Anyway, there are certainly some player's who need adjusting.
One of the most obvious is Ronaldo who needs to be reduced in dribbling/speed/agility ratings. They've made him as good as he was when playing for Barca in he's heydays.
Also I think Ronaldinho has to be made even better regarding he's exeptionality in last couple of years. just to give him that extra edge over other also good, but not so fantastic players.
There's a lot more to be changed.

As for classic teams/players I wouldn't want them away from the game, but I guess I'm among the minority here. Just the ability to change player's stats for ML would be enough for me.

 

[TristanAbbott7]

Well I'm going to keep the Classic Teams in there as at the moment there's no benefit in removing them with the ML defaulting to the original stats. It's best just to keep them locked to solve the problem. The only players that need unlocking in the PES Shop are the players who may not be retired.

 

[TristanAbbott7]

Just got an email from Yannick. He says that getting his editor to be able to write over the default data in the .exe is one of his primary objectives so hopefully we'll get these problems sorted. The more converting of data I'm doing the more I'm seeing how Konami have made a ton of mistakes with stats/attributes/personal info. This option file update should be the most accurate ever made for the game.

 

[jdekker81]

Referee names

Maybe its a good idea fort you wolf to change also the names for the referees. I'de like to have a Ref. like Colina or Frisk instead of "Jansen" etc.
Maybe you can change this too. I would be very happy with that.

 

[Panna]

It would be great if the classic teams could be replaced with some real teams cause I don't use them anyway and I don't think any other people do.
When you unlock the classic teams it just messes up your ML, they're useless

 

[scoham]

Originally posted by TristanAbbott7
Just got an email from Yannick. He says that getting his editor to be able to write over the default data in the .exe is one of his primary objectives so hopefully we'll get these problems sorted. The more converting of data I'm doing the more I'm seeing how Konami have made a ton of mistakes with stats/attributes/personal info. This option file update should be the most accurate ever made for the game.

Couldn't that possibly ruin online play?

And when converting stats from FM, be careful as some players may have random attributes (eg Jerome Thomas hardly has any filled in) therefore converting them wouldn't be fair. Although I am the Charlton researcher for FM and if you want updated stats for him I could help with that.

 

[DenniZ]

Awesome project Wolfie...

Looking forward to it

 

[pesser]

Originally posted by TristanAbbott7
Just got an email from Yannick. He says that getting his editor to be able to write over the default data in the .exe is one of his primary objectives so hopefully we'll get these problems sorted. The more converting of data I'm doing the more I'm seeing how Konami have made a ton of mistakes with stats/attributes/personal info. This option file update should be the most accurate ever made for the game.

the most accurate ever, frickin wicked , realism is what its all about

 

[domin8or]

Me wants Europian and World Superstars

Can't wait for WE8

 

[AcidicDreamer]

if you overwrite an EXE it means that ill be able to play online with that new national team that you'll make (Holland for example little hint for you)?

 

[9-Ball]

Wolf,

great idea - I'd been toying with this myself but it's a big project and I don't have the time currently. It needs to be done though, some of the default stats are oddly off. I agree with you that the bulk of average players are rated too high and the small group of elite players too low.

Didn't have time to read the entire thread here but I really hope you don't remove the classic teams and even moreso not the classic players. No ML team is complete for me without Gerson and Puskas, plus I typically add in the 1956 Hungarian national squad as they were, in my view, the greatest team to have ever played the game (with possible exception of the 1970 Brazil squad, yes yes). So, please keep the classic teams and especially the players, or perhaps release two versions, one with, and one without? Due to the heavy workload, I'll volunteer to help here in any way possible. If you think of something you can loan out to lessen your workload, just yell. Howl?

Incase it wasn't answered categorically, the classic team players do not appear in the MS if left locked in the shop.

9.

 

[scoham]

Also with the FM converters positions aren't converted from FM properly. Wingers often seem to get OMF instead of just SMF and WF.