The Real Madrid Thread [2006 - 2007]

[mega montana]

i'd want diogo back just on versatility alone, he played as a defensive mid last year as well as RB

besides, anything to get rid of salgado...i cant believe he is still on this team

 

[Lean]

On versatility alone? I would prefer an accomplished player per position (you're Real Madrid for **** sake), than a mediocre player who can play in 5 positions (aka Diogo). If you're going to put someone to make numbers on the pitch grab someone from the reserve team.

 

[ladylover]

I wonder why you guys bought Diogo, he hardly played for Madrid, boy you guys have wasted a lot of money the last few seasons

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

I wonder why you guys bought Diogo, he hardly played for Madrid, boy you guys have wasted a lot of money the last few seasons

To say the least! We lend out everyone and their mother yet Raul, Becks, etc. are still with us hanging out!

 

[justhammy]

I wonder why you guys bought Diogo, he hardly played for Madrid, boy you guys have wasted a lot of money the last few seasons

Yea we v wasted alot of money. True! But Diogo wasnt a waste. He is young, talented and can become a good player for us. I mean he is 21/22 if im not mistaken. Good player.

 

[Socrates]

Diogo is average defending and average attacking (judging by his performances at Madrid, not Zaragoza). His crosses are awful. Cicinho in the other hand is terrible defending and great attacking. Yes, Diogo is a more balanced player, but i prefer to be really good at one thing than mediocre in a lot of things.

Cicinho is not a right-back anyway, he's a wing-back or a side midfielder. If you give him cover he's the way to go.

EDIT - And like your fellow Madrid fan said, defending is something you can learn, plus Cicinho is far more talented.

I am judgin Diogo with Zaragoza and he is more than just average. Sure he is not quick like Cicinho is but he can get up the field and he is a decent crosser of the ball. He is a better defender than attacker but he can learn to attack. Cicinho is actually quite bad at crossing, at least not that much better than Diogo. I think it would be easer for Diogo to learn to attack better than Cicinho to learn to defend, he just bombs upfield and leaves the defence to the CB's. Like you said he is a wingback that would be awsome in a 3-5-2 but we dont play that here so it is better to use Diogo rather than Cicinho.

 

[ladylover]

I am judgin Diogo with Zaragoza and he is more than just average. Sure he is not quick like Cicinho is but he can get up the field and he is a decent crosser of the ball. He is a better defender than attacker but he can learn to attack. Cicinho is actually quite bad at crossing, at least not that much better than Diogo. I think it would be easer for Diogo to learn to attack better than Cicinho to learn to defend, he just bombs upfield and leaves the defence to the CB's. Like you said he is a wingback that would be awsome in a 3-5-2 but we dont play that here so it is better to use Diogo rather than Cicinho.

Cicinho bad at crossing?!?!

 

[justhammy]

I am judgin Diogo with Zaragoza and he is more than just average. Sure he is not quick like Cicinho is but he can get up the field and he is a decent crosser of the ball. He is a better defender than attacker but he can learn to attack. Cicinho is actually quite bad at crossing, at least not that much better than Diogo. I think it would be easer for Diogo to learn to attack better than Cicinho to learn to defend, he just bombs upfield and leaves the defence to the CB's. Like you said he is a wingback that would be awsome in a 3-5-2 but we dont play that here so it is better to use Diogo rather than Cicinho.

But Socrates, tell the truth...Dont you think its a waste to put Cicinho away?! He has played fantastic games for us last year, I remember him as one of the best signing we did. He played really one VERY bad game....Arsenal, when he was vs. Reyes. Thats what I remember really. Sure he can leave a gap, but we play with 2 DMs ffs, one of them should fill the gap....Everyone learns that when plays in the D-squad of a team. If a RB/LB attacks a DM, or CB should fill his position. Then the opposite team will have to open up play (mostly) to the other side and when that happens it takes like 2/3 seconds for the ball to get there and like 2 seconds for the ball to get controlled by the player so everyone has like 5 seconds to get back in position. So its not a big problem for Real that Cicinho attacks much because he is always dangerous when he does so. So is R. Carlos, he played ages for us like that and always got cover.

 

[mega montana]

On versatility alone? I would prefer an accomplished player per position (you're Real Madrid for **** sake), than a mediocre player who can play in 5 positions (aka Diogo). If you're going to put someone to make numbers on the pitch grab someone from the reserve team.

he's a solid squad player

 

[Socrates]

Cicinho bad at crossing?!?!

Not any better than Diogo is.

justhammy - He coud be useful in games that we want to attack or whatnot but he is not good enough to be the starting RB, I think Diogo should be called back and start in front of Cicinho who can be the backup.

 

[big al]

i have to agree on this one with socrates; i think you can have both players; both players can equally be useful it depends on how capello wants to play with his tactics; defend more ( diogo) ; more offense and speed (cicinho); i only disagree about the crossing thing ; cicinho is an amazing crosser i remember the 2 crosses against argentina in the confederations cup plus before he got injured at real he made some pretty nice crosses that turned to goals; in resume i agree in calling back diogo and when cicnho is back you guys will have that position pretty much cover; ill get rid of salgado tought.

 

[Crusad3r]

Meeting Capello-Mijatovic-Calderon today:


It seems Raul-Salgado-Emerson-Beckham will be removed next matches.

I think its fair and needed.

 

[Socrates]

Meeting Capello-Mijatovic-Calderon today:


It seems Raul-Salgado-Emerson-Beckham will be removed next matches.

I think its fair and needed.

Agree, Crus have you heard or read anything about Robinho coming in to training drunk? I heard that has happened in two occasions now and if that is true than its not good at all.

 

[snakeranyking]

first of all i am from Egypt and i am a madrid fan.now with that being said
let's get to the points fast

1 -as for all of you madrid fans chargeing on Fabio Capello he is one of the best of all time as a manager so it's not the manager that madrid lacks

2 - Lock at the current squad it has players that doesn't deserve to play at a real madrid castilla like:

pavon
mejia
raul bravo

and others have done with like :

ronaldo
beckham
emerson
Iván Helguera

and others you can't relay on:

raul
guti
salgado
Cassano

keep in mind that while some of these players were great but it's over thair light's are out.

3 - About the idea presented earlier in the posts that we should play with the youngsters i can't totally agree on that although there is a team here in egypt called al-ahly (the club from the fifa club world cup) made a decision like that in the 80s or 90s i can't recall the date thay were very bad so thay disbanded the first team and played with the youngsters and won thair first game against big rival zamalek but madrid can't do that couse madrid results over the whole season so far are good not bad and i think better than last year

4 - returning to al-ahly the club won the league 7 times in a row and was good but then he remained 4 seasones without a single title then thay rebuild the team over that period and made a very powerfull team that remained undefeated for 2 and half full seasons so we have to be patiant and wait for the changes to take effect

 

[BenBeckham]

appearently Robinho showed up late or/and drunk for training - that's why he wasn't inlcuded in the Squad last weekend

Non the less Capello plyaing Ramos at LB cannot be excused

 

[mega montana]

capello wants ronaldo and cassano sold ASAP, according to AS

robinho

 

[Lean]

If Cicinho is bad at crossing then Diogo is...?

 

[Kulixs]

Crus have you heard or read anything about Robinho coming in to training drunk? I heard that has happened in two occasions now and if that is true than its not good at all.

Wtf. Here's a guy who said when he was at Santos, Real Madrid was his dream come true, etc, etc. And now he's showing up to training drunk, unbelievable commitment, no wonder he used to fight with Gravesen at training. They should fine him a unbelievable amount, and drop him indefinitely.

 

[Gene Reginato]

Hmmm....this Robinho news seems BS to me.

 

[Drvar]

i'd be drinking too if Capello was my coach .