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The Real Madrid Thread [2006 - 2007]

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datboy

Starting XI
God, im so tired of this bullsh!t!!! :boohoo:



I want all those to go. except RC and Diogo. and that´s that!
oh and Crapello should resign now! what is Robinho and Diarra doing outside of the squad u f*cking Smurf?? go back to Italy! :mad:
 

justhammy

Senior Squad
datboy;2254724 said:
God, im so tired of this bullsh!t!!! :boohoo:



I want all those to go. except RC and Diogo. and that´s that!
oh and Crapello should resign now! what is Robinho and Diarra doing outside of the squad u f*cking Smurf?? go back to Italy! :mad:
Whats the problem?! Why do they want to let Diogo go?! He was good last year when he played for us and is playing good for his team now. Reyes can stay too if im the one to choose. Carlos can stay one more year, Marcelo can learn from him. The rest....BYE BYE! Although it would be stupid to let Guti and Raul leave, the fans wont appreciate it...but who cares, quality above all. And btw, Capello can still B*TCH on Ronaldo, but Ruud doesnt do any better atm. Even worse. The guy has played almost EVERY match and managed to score like what, 9 goals in la liga?! SHAME! i think that if Ronaldo played all his games where he wasnt injured that he would make more goals then Ruud. And on Robinho...we are wasting the guys tremendous talent. Play him where he belongs FFS! As a SS! There he can become the best player not on the left, right or on the bench.
 

datboy

Starting XI
justhammy, i promise you. im sad to say this.. but Raúl and Guti´s days are counted at Madrid. WE NEED A CHANGE!!
 

justhammy

Senior Squad
datboy;2254730 said:
justhammy, i promise you. im sad to say this.. but Raúl and Guti´s days are counted at Madrid. WE NEED A CHANGE!!
To say the truth I hope they leave. We have better younger players and should use them. We should get Jurado back...i v seen him vs Nastic Saturday and he looked fantastic. And also Capello should change his stubborn behaviour. He makes stupid comments like 'I didnt bring Robinho because I cant bring 22 players with me'. I mean, iv had it with those childish things. he also says that we tried our best and didnt have luck. how much are we gonna play without luck?! If we do our best then we should beat almost every team with ease, because this team has talent. He should give himself the blame for once...because its always the team and never Capello.

BTW: Read the 'interview' with Mijatovich. He says: All the problems have been located and will be solved in little time and will be seen soon.
Lets f*cking hope those problems include the benching of Raul, Salgado and Becks for once and for all. Capello is a direct man(and a weird man) so I think he has said everything he REALLY thinks of this squad. So lets wait and see.
 

solaimaa

Reserve Team
BenBeckham;2254580 said:
--------------Casillas----------------
Cicinho*-Ramos-Woodgate-Marcelo
---Reyes---Gago---Diarra---Robinho
-------Nistelrooy----Higuain---------

everyone knows this will never happen. the youngsters will never get a chance to make an impression at madrid. they will all either get loaned out or sold, and more and more superstars will be bought to try to fill the gaps. when that doesn't work, the coach will be sacked, new coach comes in and buys his superstars, and the cycle continues. who was the last player to come out of the madrid b team or youth academy that made it big in madrid?
 

Socrates

Starting XI
What's with the hate for Guti? He has done quite well for us this season, its quite obivous that when he is not on the field we are quite different. It's hard to sell Raul or Guti though, bench Raul if you want to but selling him would just be wrong. He has lost his ability because he is not the Raul we are use to seeing but I don't know about selling him.

Anyway it seems like these clear out's happen every year but it won't happen. Think about it, it will be hard to sell all those players in one summer.

BenBeckham - I don't think we can call Woodgate back because it is a one year loan with no callback option.

Either way sacking Capello won't happen at all. I don't like Capello ( I never have ) but sacking him wont solve anything.
 

OrgulloVikingo

Senior Squad
everyone knows this will never happen. the youngsters will never get a chance to make an impression at madrid. they will all either get loaned out or sold, and more and more superstars will be bought to try to fill the gaps. when that doesn't work, the coach will be sacked, new coach comes in and buys his superstars, and the cycle continues. who was the last player to come out of the madrid b team or youth academy that made it big in madrid?

You're absolutely right! We might as well not have ayouth system. By the way, you guys are no different with your youth. If it weren't for Ronaldinho (aka Tar Jar Spinks) and E'too, you wouldn't be the same! Messi is great but aside from him, who has made a huge impact from youth system? You buy stars like all the big clubs.
 

MaestroZidane

YELLOW CARD: Untrustworthy
We sucked :(, truly dissapointing performnace by the team. and capello really pissed me off.. Oh well!! what else can I do..

During the game I heard the commentators mention that Diara was for sale, can anyone confirm this?? Also an offer has been made by valecia according to them.

Also heard that ronaldo didn't start because he had allergies or something of that sort. You could actually see him with teary eyes while he was on the bech..
 

Socrates

Starting XI
OrgulloVikingo;2254762 said:
You're absolutely right! We might as well not have ayouth system. By the way, you guys are no different with your youth. If it weren't for Ronaldinho (aka Tar Jar Spinks) and E'too, you wouldn't be the same! Messi is great but aside from him, who has made a huge impact from youth system? You buy stars like all the big clubs.

To be fair to them they have done better than us though. Iniesta, Xavi, Puyol, and Valdes ( ok nevermind him ;) ) are all very good players. Imagine if we still had Juardo, Soldado, called up De la Red, and etc. All these guys are good and with experiece they can be very good for us but instead we sell them and look for some expensive player from South America.
 

OrgulloVikingo

Senior Squad
What's with the hate for Guti? He has done quite well for us this season, its quite obivous that when he is not on the field we are quite different. It's hard to sell Raul or Guti though, bench Raul if you want to but selling him would just be wrong. He has lost his ability because he is not the Raul we are use to seeing but I don't know about selling him.

Anyway it seems like these clear out's happen every year but it won't happen. Think about it, it will be hard to sell all those players in one summer.

BenBeckham - I don't think we can call Woodgate back because it is a one year loan with no callback option.

Either way sacking Capello won't happen at all. I don't like Capello ( I never have ) but sacking him wont solve anything.

I like Guti. He's O.K. The problem is elsewhere. All the veterans who have lost either their will or their skills due to age, etc. I say bring back Woody for next season. And Caps must find a way to field Robinho in asap and also ease in Higuain and Gago...for next season, the following lineup is amust, with maybe 1 or 2 changes:

Casillas/Lopez

Cicinho, Woodgate, New CB, Marcelo

Diarra, Gago

Robinho, Guti, Reyes

Higuain
 

Socrates

Starting XI
OrgulloVikingo;2254767 said:
I like Guti. He's O.K. The problem is elsewhere. All the veterans who have lost either their will or their skills due to age, etc. I say bring back Woody for next season. And Caps must find a way to field Robinho in asap and also ease in Higuain and Gago...for next season, the following lineup is amust, with maybe 1 or 2 changes:

Casillas/Lopez

Cicinho, Woodgate, New CB, Marcelo

Diarra, Gago

Robinho, Guti, Reyes

Higuain

No Ramos? I am still not sure on Woody, he still seems too much of a gamble. He gets injured once he might be out for the whole season.

Diogo and Ramos >>>> Cicinho. I thinke Cicinho can be a good backup but we have better RB's although I would play Ramos as a CB so that would leave Diogo as our RB/bodygaurd.
 

OrgulloVikingo

Senior Squad
To be fair to them they have done better than us though. Iniesta, Xavi, Puyol, and Valdes ( ok nevermind him ) are all very good players. Imagine if we still had Juardo, Soldado, called up De la Red, and etc. All these guys are good and with experiece they can be very good for us but instead we sell them and look for some expensive player from South America.

True, Xavi, Puyol, etc. are quality players. I guess we can mention Guti, Raul, Casillas on our part then. I wish we valued our youth a bit more. I'm afraid this won't happen for a long while.
 

OrgulloVikingo

Senior Squad
No Ramos? I am still not sure on Woody, he still seems too much of a gamble. He gets injured once he might be out for the whole season.

Diogo and Ramos >>>> Cicinho. I thinke Cicinho can be a good backup but we have better RB's although I would play Ramos as a CB so that would leave Diogo as our RB/bodygaurd.

Woops! Forgot Ramos, my bad. I'd rather Ramos on the right side though. I think he can contribute a little to the attack once in a while on that side. Woody has been great so far in EPL so it might be agood gamble. If not, we need another CB badly. Cannavaro doesn't convince at all right now and next year he'll be a bit older and probably worse. Bringing back Diogo is good but as a backup/Copa Del Rey games, etc.

Helguera, Salgado, Beckham, Ronaldo, Raul = their time is up....has been up for awhile now!

What's this about Diarra being sold??? Personal problems with caps?? Noww we would have to find another DM!!!!! If this is the case, this team is taking so many steps backwards their gonna end up in the 60's soon. God help us
 

Jaouadinho

Senior Squad
******* hell u guys have really come down hard on capello, but i dont think he should be fired because as we have seen in the last 3 years that doesnt solve anything.

i agree he did make some stupid decisions in that game but firing him is a bit too hasty, i think we should give him untill the end of the season if we win or dont win he should go, i hope we let him go even if we win something,nothing against capello but i think he is getting too old for the job he should just retire.

Robinho should of been on the bench, i dont mind that reyes started instead of him but robinho could of really helped us coming from the bench, why on earth would he played gago instead of diarra, espeacially in such an important and hard place to go, i mean come on, but its probably punishment for what he said.

did anyone see when salgado came off he and casano were talking but had theire mouths covered up with theire hands so the media dont show what they said, i say its that channel's fault why diarra is on the team, oh and thats 5 games were diarra hasnt played and we have lost so that barca fan with the weird "why do madrid need kaka" sig stop talking out of ur ass.

also there is a meeting taking place between capello and mijatovic to sort out whats gonna happen and what they should do about the team, i still think we can win the league we are only 5 or 6 point behind of sevilla but we cant lose anymore game till the end of the season if we want to win la liga.
 

justhammy

Senior Squad
I dont think Diogo and Ramos>>>>Cicinho. Cicinho played very good for us and is a great Wingback. He can train on positioning. Thats why we have trainers and coaches. Its a matter of time and he'll get it. Also I will have to disagree with every line-up that has Robinho as a winger. Its a damn waste. Everyone of you know it. Capello can easily play him as SS. Play a 4-4-1-1 (or 4-4-2 if you want to call it like that) and the Robinho problem will be solved. Also, I think we should stop with those signings. We'v signed the most talented players out there and thats why we should stop for once. Now build a team, give youth the chance. Get Jurado back. Get Juanfran back, thats the replacement for Becks...No Ribery, but Juanfran, he is great im 100% sure he can make it. He was the best one behind Messi in the U-20 WC and that COUNTS. Soldado/Higuain are our R9/R17 replacements.

See, we have enough talent and youth players that can make it for sure. Its just this question...Has Capello the balls to play with many youngsters and a few experienced oldies that can go along? I dont know...

Jaouadinho...No one said we should sack Capello...that would be the most stupid decision that someone can make atm. We were just telling what we tought about the line-up that was to be fair F*CKED UP! And I really doubted his trainers capabilities, but thats because this was a real childbook line-up. He has one thing I like ---> Discipline.. And thats what some of our players really needed.
 

ladylover

Senior Squad
justhammy;2254786 said:
I dont think Diogo and Ramos>>>>Cicinho. Cicinho played very good for us and is a great Wingback. He can train on positioning. Thats why we have trainers and coaches. Its a matter of time and he'll get it. Also I will have to disagree with every line-up that has Robinho as a winger. Its a damn waste. Everyone of you know it. Capello can easily play him as SS. Play a 4-4-1-1 (or 4-4-2 if you want to call it like that) and the Robinho problem will be solved. Also, I think we should stop with those signings. We'v signed the most talented players out there and thats why we should stop for once. Now build a team, give youth the chance. Get Jurado back. Get Juanfran back, thats the replacement for Becks...No Ribery, but Juanfran, he is great im 100% sure he can make it. He was the best one behind Messi in the U-20 WC and that COUNTS. Soldado/Higuain are our R9/R17 replacements.

See, we have enough talent and youth players that can make it for sure. Its just this question...Has Capello the balls to play with many youngsters and a few experienced oldies that can go along? I dont know...

Jaouadinho...No one said we should sack Capello...that would be the most stupid decision that someone can make atm. We were just telling what we tought about the line-up that was to be fair F*CKED UP! And I really doubted his trainers capabilities, but thats because this was a real childbook line-up. He has one thing I like ---> Discipline.. And thats what some of our players really needed.

No actually John Obi Mikel was second best to Messi, if I am not mistaken,
 

Jaouadinho

Senior Squad
yeah diogo is more balanced, but i still prefer cicinho over diogo, he just needs to tighten up a bit in defense, which u can learn but the things cicnho does diogo cant learn..
 

Lean

Fan Favourite
Socrates;2254811 said:
Cicinho leaves too many gaps in the defence while Diogo is more balanced.

Diogo is average defending and average attacking (judging by his performances at Madrid, not Zaragoza). His crosses are awful. Cicinho in the other hand is terrible defending and great attacking. Yes, Diogo is a more balanced player, but i prefer to be really good at one thing than mediocre in a lot of things.

Cicinho is not a right-back anyway, he's a wing-back or a side midfielder. If you give him cover he's the way to go.

EDIT - And like your fellow Madrid fan said, defending is something you can learn, plus Cicinho is far more talented.
 
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