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The England National team thread

TheBlueBalla

Starting XI
Owen Hargreaves :| for Frank Lampard. Darren Bent still sits

untouchable said:
Um no. SWP was getting past NI defenders constantly, he was a constant threat.
I cannot see the game, hence the qualifier 'apparrently'. The announcers made it seem as if he had pace and was working around defenders, but couldnt get any decent crosses toward the middle
 

untouchable

Senior Squad
Sven you frickin idiot, waster of talent, hargreaves lover English media ASS KISSER. Countries like ours struggle to find talent, but Sven wastes the talent at his disposal. Well frickin done.
 

Ebonix

YELLOW CARD - Sarcasm
Sack The Swede!

Put Hargreaves where hes at a level which suits his play too, something thats played on a Sunday morning as everyone roles out of the Pub
 

Ebonix

YELLOW CARD - Sarcasm
untouchable said:
Does anyone know if Carrick and Parker have Trinidadian ancestry? Seeing as Sven doesn't want them.

Apparently the fact that they have never been to IKEA has something to do with it
 

TheBlueBalla

Starting XI
You know, normally, I dont like to act as if I know more than professionals. Thats why I am a nobody, and they are getting paid millions. But in this case, when decisions are just mystifying, when impotent, limp dicked tactics dont work and yet theyre stuck with consistantly, when players who have so much more to offer are iced out of the squad for no apparrent reason, then you have to wonder what ever made this man deserving of the job in the first place.

I suppose I should be happy, since my family is from Armagh, but this is just sad. And on top of that, Henry has scored at Lansdowne :(

Hats off to NI. Truly giant killing: what an upset (C)
 

Ebonix

YELLOW CARD - Sarcasm
10Ruud said:
How did that happen?

Northern Ireland out played us, simply they grinded out the result but it just shows even N.Ireland, Minnows of internation football have a coach who is more tactially aware than SGE
 

Seven8

Senior Squad
on the game

credit to the N.Irish - they played with what they had and they deservedly won. The Goal was onside, too bad Robo only almost got there (Y)

appart from the Becks freekick and the Owen-bycicly one did we have any good chances ?! no we didn't and that's the main problem IMO

Rooney had a game to forget (thanfully Becks & Co could prevent him from going AWOL) still I hope the media will leave him alone - if not the I hope Becks can help him cope with that since he has been both already the hero and the villian.

Why Rooney gets player on the left wing, not like at United "left striker" or free role baffles me.

Even more so does it that neither Carrick, Parker nor Richardson made the bench and Hargreaves even came on :kader: WTF

Too bad Rooney is suspened for the next game which I'm going to attend.
 

Seven8

Senior Squad
If the group table is correct I just saw for a secone then England is (even if the lose the 2 upcoming qualifiers) "qualified" for the play offs...

Austria is 3rd 7 points behind England with 2 games to go...

and if England want to be qualified automaticly they need to win both games - only then they are able to be above the poles
 
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Sir Calumn

Guest
This is what the team needs to be:

----------------Robinson-----------------
---Neville---Carragher---Terry---Bridge---
-----Gerrard----Lampard----Beckham-----
---SWP-------------------------J.Cole---
----------------Rooney------------------

Subs: Kirkland, Ferdinand, King, Carrick, Downing, Johnson, Defoe

Manager: Alladyce
 

pede54

Team Captain
I dont think we need to worry too much about qualifying,we should make it still....BUT......what i cannot understand for the life of me,is why a manager who is blessed with the mass of talented players that he has,sees fit to play almost everyone of them out of position.Sven castrates Rooney by putting him wide left...WTF?He insisted on playing the impotent 4-5-1 again,in an important qualifier i might add,when its obvious to all that you base the teams tactics around your players strengths and NOT to try to get your world class players to play a system that does not suit them.England made the NI team look like a Sunday league team for the first half.88% possession says it all really.NI were determined to get a 0-0 draw,however many English legs they broke in the process and "parked the bus" in front of goal.Saying that,a great manager would have worked out a plan of action to beat a 10 man defence,but Sven would not budge.So what does he do in the second half?He takes off SWP,who was playing out of his skin,removes both Lampard and Gerrard,and puts on Hargreaves who actually confirmed the fact that he is crap and not good enough once again. Sven brings on Defoe and when its all too late,reverts back to 4-4-2,when the best players for the 4-4-2 system have already been taken from the field.
Now i have to admit to joining the "Sven must go" mob.Any manager that "manages" a team like that just has to go.He shows no passion at all,just stands there biting his nails as we get shafted once again.Thats fine,but when he needs to be positive and decisive,he isn't.The problem is,who could replace him anyway.Mclaren is not England manager material either.If he opposed Sven's tactics and decisions,Sven would have to listen.So i assume Mclaren nods his head in approval and goes along with it all.It all reminds me of the Phil Neal /Graham Taylor scenario.Pathetic.
I cant think of one single manger,who is available at the moment who could do a better job either,but whoever it might be,they can't do a worse job.Peter Taylor maybe? Or bring back Venebles.All i know is that i am sick and tired of watching all that great talent that makes up the England team,being wasted by the use of inept and toothless, systems and tactics.Things had better vastly improve for our last 2 qualifying games.I dont think they can get worse,but if we can get beaten by a team of fairly mediocre players,who Sanchez has got playing like Wimbledon in their heyday,then i think its time to consider a change at the top.Maybe the players were right when they told Sven that 4-5-1 did not suit them.He should have listened to them but he did not.
I read that Terry Butcher (the thick pratt)said that players were out of order telling the manager what system to play.Obviously Butcher would never have done that because he never has known what tactics are for,probably cant even spell the word,but these days players are more intelligent,they think about the game and the team,and it seems that they have more idea what is best for the England team.One thing is for sure Sven sure does not.I actually think that given the dumbass roles the players were given,they all played well.Only the schoolboy defending of Ferdinand,that allowed NI to score,is the only negative that i saw from any of them really.We miss Neville and Terry thats for sure.Becks and SWP were outstanding.We got mugged and thats that....roll on the next game......... :ewan:
 


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