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The "Cristiano Ronaldo's future" saga thread.
- Thread starter MikeyM
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Good question. Through the season he was amazing. Towards the end of it in the bigger games he made a few blinding mistakes. For country he under preformed. Does this prove a point he plays well when he has the right squad supporting him? Guess time will tell with the pre season games.
Torres on the other hand didn't win much in England but won the euro's had has maintained a good record all the way through. Arguably the more complete player who can work through the pressure. Or it could be said he just had a better squad around him in euro 08. Spain had some great players all doing well.
Ronaldo on the other hand up until the Euro 08 was arguably the best player and was the leading goal scorer in every competition he was in domestically and in the champions league. Got lots of silver and also won PFA Player of the Year 2008, again. It could be argued he was best almost all year excluding a few weeks in the Euros. That's another good point, let not forget the performances of the euros only lasted a few weeks.
Lets not be dreaming also, he did get a few goals and assists in the Euro's his team just under preformed. So to say he was horrible is wrong, he just didn't live up to the hype he's maintained in every other competition he's been in. You could blame that on the pressure, different team mates around him, being burnt out or even the transfer saga (other things on his mind). There lots of factors.
In spite saying that Torres did well in the English domestic leagues and has achieved Euro 08 glory. I guess the question boils down too who was the best for the longest? I don't know, its a hard question I'm glad I don't have to make it.
Torres on the other hand didn't win much in England but won the euro's had has maintained a good record all the way through. Arguably the more complete player who can work through the pressure. Or it could be said he just had a better squad around him in euro 08. Spain had some great players all doing well.
Ronaldo on the other hand up until the Euro 08 was arguably the best player and was the leading goal scorer in every competition he was in domestically and in the champions league. Got lots of silver and also won PFA Player of the Year 2008, again. It could be argued he was best almost all year excluding a few weeks in the Euros. That's another good point, let not forget the performances of the euros only lasted a few weeks.
Lets not be dreaming also, he did get a few goals and assists in the Euro's his team just under preformed. So to say he was horrible is wrong, he just didn't live up to the hype he's maintained in every other competition he's been in. You could blame that on the pressure, different team mates around him, being burnt out or even the transfer saga (other things on his mind). There lots of factors.
In spite saying that Torres did well in the English domestic leagues and has achieved Euro 08 glory. I guess the question boils down too who was the best for the longest? I don't know, its a hard question I'm glad I don't have to make it.
A spokesman from UEFA said the only reason Deco and Ronaldo weren't on the ideal team for the Euro2008 was due to Portugal being eliminated so early. Even though imo Deco was much better than Ronaldo in this competition.
Even if Ronaldo is behaving like a mercenary he did carry United in many ocasions, Torres did not perform bad for Pool but not at the same level, though he clearly did better at the Euro.
What Ronaldo achieved this season is amazing for a winger, he's the ultimate complete player. Considering that and judging from Platini's recent comments regarding Ronaldo my money would be on him.
Even if Ronaldo is behaving like a mercenary he did carry United in many ocasions, Torres did not perform bad for Pool but not at the same level, though he clearly did better at the Euro.
What Ronaldo achieved this season is amazing for a winger, he's the ultimate complete player. Considering that and judging from Platini's recent comments regarding Ronaldo my money would be on him.
Steaua and adedawson: what are you two guys smoking? Here you are talking about how the only reason Ronaldo did so well in the whole season is because of the superb team he had to help him out for 9 month! And yet you are both talking as if Torres was the sole reason Spain won the EURO and he was the shining star of the tournament. The man scored only 2 goals in the whole tournament and he is a striker. He wasn't even the best forward on the field for Spain, nevermind the best player on the team. Torres isn't even one of the players that did really well at EUROs, he JUST scored the most important goal of the competition. Had someone like Pouyol scored, would you be comparing him to Ronaldo for the player of the year? Let be realistic here, we are talking about player of the YEAR award, not the EURO 2008 tournament player, right?
Torres was crap in several games. Had Villa played, no one would even consider him. It's really annoying that people think a player deserves an award for one good game. Well done for him playing well in the final, but really, I'd rate several players in that much alone that were better than him, nevermind the comp, and nevermind the season. In terms of performance over the year, it's Ronaldo between them two.
Help?;2545030 said:
Cheers help for that glowing comment. I gave a evaluation based on what both players have archived this year. At no point did I mention Torres was the reason Spain won. What I said was he "maintained a good record all the way through" Which he did. Same as Ronaldo. Unfortunately there bias too WC's and Euro's. I hope Ronaldo wins it, but i can see how they might vote else where and like I mentioned before I'm glad its a decision I don't have to make.
PaPaGeorGeo
Fan Favourite
C.Ronaldo is does doing what every other player does, the fact that he is the best player in the world he gets all this attention.
Look at Adebayor, asking us to Triple is wage after he signed a new contract last season. He has one good season and he thinks he should be paid like Thierry Henry.
There would be 100s of other cases happening across Europe at this stage. My problem is that the Agents seem to start the ball rolling in most cases
Look at Adebayor, asking us to Triple is wage after he signed a new contract last season. He has one good season and he thinks he should be paid like Thierry Henry.
There would be 100s of other cases happening across Europe at this stage. My problem is that the Agents seem to start the ball rolling in most cases
OrgulloVikingo
Senior Squad
I pick Torres over Ronaldo this year! Why? Simple....for being brand new in a team and in a much different league, Torres took the bull by the horns and ravished everyone with 30+ goals in his first season. How many seasons did it take Ronaldo????? Not only that but they say the great players show up at the biggest stages and its what Torres did in the final. I think these are 2 very good points (especially the first one). I think Ronaldo is more talented but I think taking into account both of the players comfort levels, stability, etc. Torres comes out on top. Brand new at Liverpool and didn't even have to adjust, and if he did adjust he did in a couple of games
shadowofanubis6
Reserve Team
If Ronaldo doesn't win it this year after scoring 42 ( i believe) total goals in club competitions.... I am hard pressed to find a time when he will win the player of the year award. Look at it this way, If the euro's happened before the start of the premier league and champions league this year and torres did as well as he did.... would we be considering him as the top player of the year? No. We'd say he's very good but not the best.
OrgulloVikingo
Senior Squad
shadowofanubis6;2545834 said:
Seeing your sig, I understand why you feel that way. Now lets compare Ronaldo's first year in the EPL to Torres' first year in the EPL. Because of this, I feel Torres stood out more and was dominating the EPL (pound for pound) more than Ronaldo. and was super instrumental with a huge goal in the final. While Ronaldo has missed several big game opportunities.
Jaboldinho
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OrgulloVikingo;2545837 said:
First of all, it's not The New Player in a New League of the Year -award, just Player of the year.
Torres dominating the EPL? More than Ronaldo? Ronaldo scored more goals than him, and he's a winger. Also, Ronaldo carried his match in the hard times, when United was suffering from many injuries. Ronaldo lead ManU to winning the EPL and CL, not just in the final match, like Torres in EURO, he came through almost every night. Meanwhile Torres scored a nice sum of goals in a new league, but didn't make his team succeed in any competition and he played one good match in the EUROs.
Again, let me remind you, it's The Player of the Year -award, not in a new club, not in world stage, such as EUROs, but the whole season.
Jaboldinho
Fan Favourite
Finally some real opinions with real arguments...
I'm not even a Ronaldo-fan, I just face the facts, unlike others.
I'm not even a Ronaldo-fan, I just face the facts, unlike others.
shadowofanubis6
Reserve Team
OrgulloVikingo;2545837 said:
It's the player of the year award. You dont compare different years of players. You compare THIS year (thus the name, player of the year). And THIS year.... ronaldo scored more goals as a WINGER then Torres did as a FORWARD. This really isn't even close, so i don't see why some people are saying that Torres deserves to win. Torres is very very good, but Ronaldo was on a level of his own this year.