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They were both very minor, but the press is having trouble filling their hours of euro2008 coverage so they became big.
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Spain vs Italy [P+R+Why Italy Will Win]
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MaestroZidane
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folowing on my holland v Russia prediction.. I shall do the same here.
I'm picking Spain to pull the upset, upset became so many people are picking the Italians to win it based on current distractions and Italy's momentum. Spain have found a front that is clicking and will cause a threat to the Italians defence. Toni will find his form, but will be too little too late.
And if Spain fail to win this game, after the game, aragones should be sacked and a new squad picked to prepare for the world cup, because seriously, Spain have the quality to win this game. Forget Italy being lucky, a team has to make its own luck... Just look at the Turks
I'm picking Spain to pull the upset, upset became so many people are picking the Italians to win it based on current distractions and Italy's momentum. Spain have found a front that is clicking and will cause a threat to the Italians defence. Toni will find his form, but will be too little too late.
And if Spain fail to win this game, after the game, aragones should be sacked and a new squad picked to prepare for the world cup, because seriously, Spain have the quality to win this game. Forget Italy being lucky, a team has to make its own luck... Just look at the Turks
From BBC
2215: Russia through to the semi-final where they will face Italy or Spain. And on the basis of the first three quarter-finals, you wouldn't bet against Italy would you? Like Holland and Croatia, Spain won all three group games. Like Holland, Croatia and Portugal, Spain rested a host of players for their final group game...
I am hoping Spain beat Italy. Please. 3-2 to Spain last minute goal through a penalty won by diving would be nice.
2215: Russia through to the semi-final where they will face Italy or Spain. And on the basis of the first three quarter-finals, you wouldn't bet against Italy would you? Like Holland and Croatia, Spain won all three group games. Like Holland, Croatia and Portugal, Spain rested a host of players for their final group game...
I am hoping Spain beat Italy. Please. 3-2 to Spain last minute goal through a penalty won by diving would be nice.
MaestroZidane;2540200 said:
Really?? Is it true that most people are banking on Italy to win it? I always thought people were going for Spain...
Spain played the better football in the group stages but so did the Netherlands and Portugal and both have gone packing........
I'm staying on the fence since I can't predict what will happen next after that Croatia-Turkey game.......
I don't guess either but I'll base this on probability. No way would all four of the first place finishing teams in each group will be knocked out in the qf. Spain WILL get past the quarterfinal sometime, and this should be that time, Italy can't always be lucky, so this would be your best bet on Spain to move on. Not saying they'll win the tourament, but why not get past the qf.
Your probability theorems in your two posts in this thread have been the dumbest things I've ever seen regarding football. Are you gonna write off ManU from advancing to the last 16 in the CL because they've done it every year for who knows how long?
Seriously, that Brazil thing is unreal, I can't believe THAT's why you didn't think they'd reach the final. Are you even aware that footie is not a game based on probability?
Anyway, my prediction is that Italy, despite no Pirlo nor Gattuso and despite playing badly and 2 goals out of 3 being FK/Penalty (can't remember the Romanian goal) and missing their two main defenders, AND Toni, their sole striker in the starting lineup, playing quite badly, will win. A 1 goal win or via penalties. They'll get physical and scare the Spaniards out of playing properly. The mental side will be what sets them back, despite the fact that they have the better team and play better football.
Seriously, that Brazil thing is unreal, I can't believe THAT's why you didn't think they'd reach the final. Are you even aware that footie is not a game based on probability?
Anyway, my prediction is that Italy, despite no Pirlo nor Gattuso and despite playing badly and 2 goals out of 3 being FK/Penalty (can't remember the Romanian goal) and missing their two main defenders, AND Toni, their sole striker in the starting lineup, playing quite badly, will win. A 1 goal win or via penalties. They'll get physical and scare the Spaniards out of playing properly. The mental side will be what sets them back, despite the fact that they have the better team and play better football.
Dutch found a way to mess up.....Spain is next.
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Mandieta6;2540443 said:
sadly, as a Spaniard, I agree
I don't know why most folks are under the impression that the Spaniards have a better team or are somehow more skilled than the Italians and that the only fathomable way that the Italians come out with a victory here is through divine intervention or through some sort of aid from the refs......WTF? Even if they weren't missing their best and most influential player in Pirlo and one of the most intimidating DMs around in Gattuso, I'm still certain that most fans of the game would be asserting that the Spaniards are somehow the superior squad.
Look, they might have some phenomenal individual talent and play the more aesthetically pleasing brand of soccer, but they're far from being the more overall talented team, man.
HUP, ITALY, HUP!
Look, they might have some phenomenal individual talent and play the more aesthetically pleasing brand of soccer, but they're far from being the more overall talented team, man.
HUP, ITALY, HUP!
KingPaulV;2540627 said:
i honestly dont know how you could be more technically proficient than the Italians are......they're supremely flawless technically from their designated 'fantasista" to their lowly brute sitting at the end of the bench, man.
They might have equals,such as your country, but there's no squad superior to them in that facet of the game,man.
Yoss, I disagree. I'm not a fan of the Spanish NT. I don't think they're as on-form as everyone thinks, and they have many faults, and I mean in terms of playing, not just the mental and physical sides, in both of which they lack even more (although it's possible that Luis has been working on the mental side lately). I also don't think the italians will win via luck. However, the Dutch have clearly shown that without Pirlo able to distribute play, they lack creativity. It's also been shown that their attack is very lacking, with Toni doing pretty much **** all. They have overall been the most disappointing team of the tournie (perhaps with the exception of France) and the reason seems to be Cannavaro's absence. Now, add Gattuso and Materazzi's absence, who are incredibly important to the team, and without Pirlo even on the field, they have very little going their way in terms of football. Even Donadoni is a worse manager than Luis. The thing they have in their favor are their GK, their ability to play physically their mental stability, and experience. Unfortunately for Spain, they suck at all of those things (except for the GK), which is why Italy will rely on limiting Spain, which will lead to an uniteresting match.
I hope I'm wrong, but there you have it.
I hope I'm wrong, but there you have it.