WilliamFAlmeida;2267232 said:Im pretty sure the problem is Raul
yep and not just in the dressing room but in the field as well ; raul's good level of football was over way before ronaldo's; if someone is "el chico mimado" is him.
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WilliamFAlmeida;2267232 said:Im pretty sure the problem is Raul
Filipower;2266865 said:yes, now real is going to win La Liga, the UCL and the Copa d'El Rey.
oh wait.
WilliamFAlmeida;2267232 said:Im pretty sure the problem is Raul
Dont be ridiculous. Raul will never be remembered better than Ronaldo. Only in the small location of Madrid.Yes the guy who actually works his ass off and represents Madrid to the fullest is the problem, nice logic . Anyway no matter what Raul is a Madrid legend and Ronaldo is not, its as simple as that. Raul>>>>>Ronaldo and thats a fact, just look it up. I am sure Barca and Valencia wish he was not playing this season.
WilliamFAlmeida;2267779 said:Dont be ridiculous. Raul will never be remembered better than Ronaldo. Only in the small location of Madrid.
Raul has beed the problem because he sucks @$$ has has sucked @$$ for 3 years yet he has always been a started. Raul runs around like a chicken with its head cut off and fans think "oh he's working so hard"-
Meanwhile- Madrid's best player along with Casillas for the past 3 years gets booed because he "stands around". And Even though he's done that all his career, and still scores .67 times a game he gets no respect. Raul is a joke, and has sucked and living in Ronaldo's shadow for the past 3 years. Madrista didnt like that so they booed him even though he was the only one (with Casillas) giving Madrid the points necessary to stay competitive.
raul always goes around acting like he runs the team, giving interviews as if he was boss or something. He's been the captain and the suckiest player yet he's always started. the problem is Raul. Ronaldo is gone MAdrid lose to villareal, so now who are you going to blame?
big al;2268079 said:raul is an real madrid icon , hell but even hugo sanchez was an even bigger icon than raul plus i think he has more pichichis, about ronaldo well he is right he has never love real madrid, for him that team was only about fame and money, he's real love has always been brazil, but nonetheless raul never was or will be the player that its ronaldo, yes raul has won more at club level, but he has been with real all his carer and ronaldo has always been a nomad plus most of raul's palmares has to do more about madrid and not just him, if ronaldo had stay with barca ill bet my life he would won everything and more than raul.
yes raul is a icon for real and a great player for spain, (well was) but ronaldo is one of the greatest players in history, he is icon too but for the world , that kind of rare player that only comes just a certain while. raul and ronaldo haha no comparison.; well raul does beat ronaldo in attitude like socrates likes to put it, haha.
BRAZIL'S_#9;2269440 said:uhmm let me c..
for scoring 15 goals on a wc
oh.. these stuff too
FIFA World Player of the Year: 1996 (youngest winner), 1997, 2002
World Soccer Player of the Year: 1996, 1997, 2002
European Footballer of the Year (Ballon d'Or): 1997, 2002
Onze d'Or: 1997, 2002
UEFA Most Valuable Player - 1998
European Golden Boot: 1997
Copa América 1999: Top Scorer
Spanish League Top Scorer: 1996-1997, 2003-2004
Dutch League Top Scorer: 1994-1995
BBC Sports Personality of the Year Overseas Personality: 2002
GoldenFoot Award: 2006
FIFA World Cup
All-Time World Cup Goalscorer - 15 Goals in 19 games in 3 World Cups
2006 Bronze Boot - Third highest scorer (tied) - 3 goals
2002 Golden Boot - Top scorer - 8 goals
2002 Silver Ball - Second best player
2002 Winner
1998 Golden Ball - Best player
1998 Silver Boot - Second highest scorer - 4 goals
1998 Runner-up
1994 Winner
Brazilian Cup: Cruzeiro 1993
Dutch Cup: PSV Eindhoven 1996
Cup Winners' Cup: FC Barcelona 1997
Confederations Cup: 1997
Copa América: 1997, 1999
UEFA Cup: Internazionale 1998
Intercontinental Cup: Real Madrid 2002
European Super Cup: Real Madrid 2002
La Liga - Primera División champions: Real Madrid 2002/2003
Spanish Super Cup: FC Barcelona 1996, Real Madrid 2003
Socrates;2269495 said:Thanks for proving my point , most of those awards mean nothing much...I though everyone already knew that the POY and etc were rather rubbish. Than you put BBC Sports Personality of the Year Overseas Personality...what the **** is that Out of all that he has some top scorer awards and 1 league title, not much to boast buddy.
big al;2269499 said:haha first i tought well this guy may put a fight, this guy may have an objective opinion about the matter, but then he comes out whith this, haha i grant you the award of "buttmunch"; you gotta be ****ting me haha, i am done.
big al;2269518 said:i just didnt know what elses to say dude ; i was stuned by your comment; i mean saying those awards are rubbish is dissmising all what ronaldo is, thats is what he is famous for; beeing one of the best of our generation, hell even beeing one of the greatest players up their with pele, maradona, etc... i mean dont just ask me, sure these awards are rubbish when a player that doesnt deserve it wins it, it has happened, but this wasnt the case with ronaldo ,he amaze the world with his skill and goalscoring ways.
i mean its ok if you prefer raul over ronaldo as your 11; theirs nothing wrong with that; but dissmising what ronaldo has done thats another thing completly; i am surprise cause sometimes it seem you knew what you were talking about, what age are you dude?, its a serious question, cause maybe you didnt see ronaldo when he played for psv, barca and inter.