Breaker19;3871406 said:This is R.Madrid thread not Barcelona, and when someone posted a possible corruption case from Madrid you response "what about messi?" to excuse dirty rags from your team , so it seems you're the hypocritical.
I'm not a Real Madrid fan, so that's out the window right there. Secondly, the member who posted about it has ignored several posts about the Messi case, signalling that crime is only important when it ocurrs by the other team, a sentiment you seem to echo. It might work differently in other boards where the activity is constant but here, threads are not independent from the rest so while it is true that this is the Madrid thread and thus it makes sense for a member to post exclusively about Madrid here, it is still a good place to call them out in regards to their lack of posting about other, similar (read: worse) offenses.
If you don't know, Silvia Lapuerta (who start to prosecuting Messi when Fiscalia told Messi is inocent), is an ex-directive from madrid.
So a Barca site finds the fact that a prosecutor used to work for Real Madrid as suspicious in this case? That's curious indeed. Have you ever heard of conspiracy theories? Do I really need to argue a case against this? I guess all employees of a sports club are diehard fans who will risk their jobs on the hope that it mighjt get a rival away from the sport? This assumes that such a result would benefit that club (which is no guarantee, as the Ronaldo-Messi rivlary is a huge draw for both clubs) and ignores the fact that all sources point out that Messi is unlikely to actually see any time behind bars. The article you posted is hilarious because its author seems to believe that Messi paying the money he should've paid earlier should exculpate him, which, as far as I'm aware, is not something that happens in criminal justice. I could go on, but I think that's enough.
The judge from "Neymar case" is MEMBER from Real Madrid.
http://6cero.com/a/raulgarcialines/2015/feb/juez-caso-neymar-socio-real-madrid/247301 (from Madrid newspaper)
Read above on why this is a stupid line of reasoning, but also, this is irrelevant to the Messi case.
What about Cristiano Ronaldo? Who used his mum to pass money from Spain to Portugal way Airport. What about Xabi Alonso and Nadal? Who did the same from Messi (about taxes), paid and the press NEVER talk about again.. come on.
Well, you guys don't talk about the Messi trial, so I guess you can understand that? These are all allegations and are, again, irrelevant to the Messi trial.
What about Granada and Athletic Bilbao matches? (only this season, if I say of last and others seasons..) on first match, a LEGAL GOAL nule for Granada, and ILEGAL GOAL valid for Madrid. On second match ilegal goal from Benzema.
What about this?
CR hits a rival and he's only banned for two matches. Piqué for insult, 4 matches.
What about this?
AS (madrid newspaper) manipulate a picture to "demostrate" Dani Alves is offside (and was false)
Today, against Celta de Vigo, a puntual case:
Referee shows red card to Cabral for protest. They don't know Ramos is only allowed to do this:
Why Ramos were playing and Cabral not?
Nolito, angry with referee "he doesn't respect us"
And you say it's comical.. yeah, it's comical for the rest of the teams (irony)
This is all absolutely irrelevant. I could argue some of these points (from the pictures you posted Alves looks offside in both and challenging a referee is one of the more sanctionable offenses in sports while violent instances can go unseen by refs, etc) but this is all irrelevant and stinks of conspiracy talk that has plagued Spanish football fans for years. You do realise that I could post a similar list of grievances with the way officiating has favored Barca right? And these are all commonplace offenses in all of football, and bear no significance outside the sport. That is not on the same plane as stealing millions of euros from a country on the edge of becoming a part of the third world.
If you live in Spain, you would know what I'm telling. If you don't live in Spain then don't opine what you have not idea.
I do live in Spain. I'm just not blinded by tribalism and crazy conspiracy talk.
They just have envy because on 21th century Barça is the dominant club on the world. We win Champions League in colour not in black and white.
This is moronic. It is the perfect representation of tribalism and I am not surprised that you have gotten the full support of someone like Xaviesta, who needs his battles fought for him.
Note, still none of you have addressed the issue of Messi's fraud (Fiscalia have only 'forgiven' Messi because they believe his father is the one at fault, it's not like they're saying that no crime has been committed).