Presidential Elections

[Run DMB]

I don't think it's been blown out of proportion... you barely see it mentioned in the mainstream media. You don't have to be proud of America to be an American. We're free to think and say whatever we want, no matter how ungrateful and disrespectful it may be. I just don't think I want a first lady who's never felt proud of her country until it started worshiping her rock star husband and his vague and lofty promises of "change."

 

[Run DMB]

Come on; michelle Obama said that in the context of an African American woman....I can understand what she meant...surely she has been proud of America but the pride she spoke of is that for the first time ever, it seems as if the "great american divide (race) is not such a big deal anymore, and frankly as an American, and somebody who is always greateful to this great country, that makes me extremely proud as well..

That's an interesting interpretation. Maybe you should write speeches for Mrs. Obama in the future.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

I don't think it's been blown out of proportion... you barely see it mentioned in the mainstream media. You don't have to be proud of America to be an American. We're free to think and say whatever we want, no matter how ungrateful and disrespectful it may be. I just don't think I want a first lady who's never felt proud of her country until it started worshiping her rock star husband and his vague and lofty promises of "change."

McCain is even more vague. "I have experience doing stuff." I have no idea what he will do as President, he has not laid out a single plan for anything. Obama has tons of plans that you can check out on his website and he references in speeches and debates. The whole "Obama is all fluff" meme is unfounded and every speech I see someone going "oh wow, he's finally talking policy!" No bitch, he's been doing that from the beginning.

Guys with small cocks always say "it's not the size, it's what you do with it" as if the dudes with big dicks have no idea. They're like "wait, what do I do? Put it in and then slide it out? This is so confusing." Obama is the big dick; he's flashy, but he also doesn't lack any substance.

 

[Run DMB]

You're right about McCain. He got owned by Ron Paul on an economics question:

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I might be wrong about Obama being style over substance. From my observations, he seems to speak a lot on broad, general terms and rarely gives the specifics. But I'll admit that I haven't followed the Democratic race as closely as I've followed the GOP.

I think the difference though, is that McCain hasn't made a lot of unrealistic promises. Here's a guy who's basically come out and said that the jobs aren't coming back, the illegal immigrants aren't going away and that there might be more wars in the future. That's about as anti-populist as you can get, and I admire that. Some call that pessimism, I call it realism.

And that was an... um... interesting analogy at the end of your post.

 

[rhizome17]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20080220/cm_uc_crmmax/op_195315

pwned.

"We've lived through two decades' worth of peaceful, if contentious election cycles under the rule of law, which have brought about "change" and upheaval, both good and bad."

Haha. That part made me laugh.

 

[Integrity]

LOL, John McCain has Bob Dole written all over his face.

 

[::shinji::]

Michelle Malkin probably gives McCain the cold sweats because she reminds him of the whores he used to nail back in the 'Nam.

Vietcong>McCain

 

[rhizome17]

The campaigners should make that their slogan (and reward you accordingly)

 

[Run DMB]

I don't think McCain had any time for Vietpoon while he was being brutally beaten, bayonetted, thrown in solitary confinement and tortured by the Vietcong for 5 years. It was an incredible act of courage for him to subject himself to all that, when the Vietcong offered him an easy way out for publicity purposes. I wonder how many of today's other leading politicians would have made that sacrifice.

LOL, John McCain has Bob Dole written all over his face.

He's not impotent. At least, not if you trust the NY Times.

 

[rhizome17]

I don't think McCain had any time for Vietpoon while he was being brutally beaten, bayonetted, thrown in solitary confinement and tortured by the Vietcong for 5 years. It was an incredible act of courage for him to subject himself to all that, when the Vietcong offered him an easy way out for publicity purposes. I wonder how many of today's other leading politicians would have made that sacrifice.

Oh, how about the ANC in South Africa under apartheid, or any number of politicians who have previously been members of resistance groups under regimes supported by the 'big powers'. Michelle Bachelet in Chile springs to mind too. And if anyone in Gitmo or who has experienced an extraordinary rendition decides to become a politician. we can come back to this.

And it makes it all the more surprising that he doesn't oppose its use. His supporters can't have it both ways. They want to make it known he experienced it, yet if he won't vote against its use then surely it can't be that big a deal, so why bother even mentioning what he went through?

 

[Run DMB]

Oh, how about the ANC in South Africa under apartheid, or any number of politicians who have previously been members of resistance groups under regimes supported by the 'big powers'. Michelle Bachelet in Chile springs to mind too.

I meant leading American politicians, or in general, politicians in developed Western countries with strong democratic traditions. And to the best of my knowledge, Nelson Mandela was never tortured.

And it makes it all the more surprising that he doesn't oppose its use. His supporters can't have it both ways. They want to make it known he experienced it, yet if he won't vote against its use then surely it can't be that big a deal, so why bother even mentioning what he went through?

Check your facts. McCain opposes torture. He's publicly spoken out against waterboarding.

 

[rhizome17]

I meant leading American politicians.

Check your facts. McCain opposes torture. He's publicly spoken out against waterboarding.

John McCain: He was against waterboarding before he
was for it.

Voted against a ban on waterboarding, didn't he?

Flip, flop, flip, flop.....

 

[Run DMB]

You know, if someone proposes a "No Child Left Behind" bill and I oppose it for some reason, that doesn't mean I hate children. (I do hate children, but that's besides the point.)

Randy Scheunemann, McCain's top national security adviser, said McCain was concerned about the Senate legislation's requirement that the CIA abide by Army rules. "It's not a vote for torture," Scheunemann said. "This wasn't a vote on waterboarding. This was a vote on applying the standards of the field manual to CIA personnel."

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A McCain Senate aide said that his vote does not mean the senator endorses any of these tactics. Instead, the aide said, there are noncoercive interrogation techniques not used by the Army that could be useful to the CIA.

I can't fault McCain because he cares about the security of his country.

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[rhizome17]

You know, if someone proposes a "No Child Left Behind" bill and I oppose it for some reason, that doesn't mean I hate children. (I do hate children, but that's besides the point.)

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Great chance to make himself clear, and he blows it. Given the fact Bush has said he will veto the bill, all he had to do is distance himself from the current regime. But noooooo.....

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Michelle Malkin probably gives McCain the cold sweats because she reminds him of the whores he used to nail back in the 'Nam.

Vietcong>McCain

If anything he was sucking North Vietnamese cock.

McCain sold out on the CIA torture vote. He helped write the field manual's descriptions of acceptable tactics for the army, basically a straight forward ban on torture and adherence to the Geneva Convention, and then suddenly, in the middle of primary season when he is disliked by conservatives, he changes his position.

 

[rhizome17]

So Nader is back...

 

[Run DMB]

Good news. Although he didn't make much of an impact last time around.

 

[rhizome17]

Gore supporters in Florida would say otherwise, but I like it when more candidates are in the running.

 

[rhizome17]

New Rhyming Campaign Slogan: Vote McCain, the Panamanian!

 

[Run DMB]

Just think about it... the first American president born outside of the US! What a historic election this could turn out to be!

You know, growing up in America as a non-natural-born citizen, I never even dreamed that one day one of our people would rise up to become president. We were always taught that the presidency was reserved for those born within the borders of the United Sates. But times have changed, and minds have been opened. If Senator McCain becomes president, this will be a truly monumental achievement for my people, and a pivotal event in our struggle for social and economic advancement in American society. What times we live in!