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No Country For Old Men [SPOILERS]

SlayerDeuS

Starting XI
I thought I'd bring this thread back to life since one of the oscar favorites will be released in a little over 1 week.

 

Hakeem

Superman
cant wait to see it. critics so far are loving it and call it one of the must see movies ever :|
its the Coens. wouldnt surprise me (Y)
 

SlayerDeuS

Starting XI
WOW!! The Coens returned to form on this one. That ending....um well I might check it out again and read some message boards just to digest everything. However it was some film. Easily the favorite for multiple Oscars.
 

$teauA

Superstar
Oh my freaking God! What a masterpiece! Javier Bardem's performance has to rank among the best ever while the screenplay is an automatic lock to win the Oscar. There are too many good things to say about this film, honestly, just amazing in every way.
 

sreeja

Club Supporter
No Country for Old Men is an award-winning 2007 film adaptation of Cormac McCarthy's 2005 novel of the same name. The film was written and directed by Joel and Ethan Coen, who also edited it under the pseudonym 'Roderick Jaynes'. The title derives from the first line of William Butler Yeats' poem "Sailing to Byzantium".
 

Hakeem

Superman
just watched No Country For Old Men, and it is excellent, but the last 30 minutes killed it for me.

what the hell did the Coens/McCarthy want to do with it? the whole first 90 minutes are perfect, with great acting by Brolin and a ****ed up/legendary performance by Bardem, all building up to what could've been a masterful showdown at the end but instead we get a main character killed with no explanation (or rather, we dont get to see why/how/when), and others just let go.
this makes no sense at all. I would hate it if this wins the Oscar (N)(N)
 

King

My ass smells like your mom
Hakeem;2460040 said:
just watched No Country For Old Men, and it is excellent, but the last 30 minutes killed it for me.

what the hell did the Coes want to do with it? the whole first 90 minutes are perfect, with great acting by Brolin and a ****ed up performance by Bardem, all building up to what could've been a masterful showdown at the end but instead we get a main character killed with no explanation, and others just let go.
this makes no sense at all. I would hate it if this wins the Oscar (N)(N)

100% agreed! I had no ****in clue what the **** Jones was saying in the end! This movie was perfect except the ending.......which really ****ed it up!
 

$teauA

Superstar
WHAT?????? You guys are nuts! The ending just adds to the intrigue and suspense of the movie and the experience as a whole. And don't forget this movie was made after a book and it follows the dialogue and action pretty much to the t so it's not like they could of went in a just torched the author's original ending.
 

Hakeem

Superman
{SPOILER}

what intrigue and suspense? it was all trashed down when Brolin dies. and since it wasnt Bardem who kills him, what the hell happened to the money?

and yes, I understand that Jones at the end (and the old in the wheelchair a few scenes back) were supposed to mean something, but it just didnt IMO.

I also know that its based on McCarthy's novel so it's not The Coens fault but they could've just not think about making a perfect adaptation from the book, and instead change the ending and give us a perfect movie :p
 

SlayerDeuS

Starting XI
Hakeem;2460068 said:
{SPOILER}

what intrigue and suspense? it was all trashed down when Brolin dies. and since it wasnt Bardem who kills him, what the hell happened to the money?

and yes, I understand that Jones at the end (and the old in the wheelchair a few scenes back) were supposed to mean something, but it just didnt IMO.

I also know that its based on McCarthy's novel so it's not The Coens fault but they could've just not think about making a perfect adaptation from the book, and instead change the ending and give us a perfect movie :p

{SPOILER}

Read the book Hak, it'll answer quite few questions for you. However, I'll try to clear some up for you. You know near the end when Jones' character goes back to the hotel and they show Chigurh hiding behind a door or something? Well basically Chigurh was there to get the money and he ends up finding the money, because remember when he paid that kid at the end of the film? Jones' character goes back to the hotel and he knows that Chigurh is there too, but he is ready to retire from the police force so he knows that f he finds Chigurh he is a dead man thus he leaves him alone. It is pretty obvious that the "Mexican" gang killed Moss because they find out from his mother in-law where they are headed and they find Moss which leads to a shootout. Finally in the end Chigurh does kill Moss' wife, this too you can sort of imply because Chigurh checks his boots for blood when leaving that house. Chigurh hates getting his shoes/clothes dirtied with the blood of his victims as seen numerous times in the movie.
 

BayernBoz

Senior Squad
This movie was very good, but I was also a bit disappointed with the ending just because I'm used to movies that end with a 'bang!' But I can appreciate something different and something that leaves you putting the pieces together after the movie is done. The other thing is that I didn't expect it to end where it did so I didn't really pay attention to the monologue (?) at the end. Maybe watching it a second time around will be better.

PS. Thanks for clearing some things up for us SlayerDeuS.
 

SlayerDeuS

Starting XI
BayernBoz;2460157 said:
This movie was very good, but I was also a bit disappointed with the ending just because I'm used to movies that end with a 'bang!' But I can appreciate something different and something that leaves you putting the pieces together after the movie is done. The other thing is that I didn't expect it to end where it did so I didn't really pay attention to the monologue (?) at the end. Maybe watching it a second time around will be better.

PS. Thanks for clearing some things up for us SlayerDeuS.

{SPOILER}

yeah, like most people who saw this film i stopped paying attention with all that dialogue after moss was killed and the last 25 minutes i was like wtf and i think i blacked out. going over it again and also reading the book helped me understand wtf was going on.
 

Shiryu

Senior Squad
Hakeem;2460040 said:
just watched No Country For Old Men, and it is excellent, but the last 30 minutes killed it for me.

what the hell did the Coens/McCarthy want to do with it? the whole first 90 minutes are perfect, with great acting by Brolin and a ****ed up/legendary performance by Bardem, all building up to what could've been a masterful showdown at the end but instead we get a main character killed with no explanation (or rather, we dont get to see why/how/when), and others just let go.
this makes no sense at all. I would hate it if this wins the Oscar (N)(N)

The story is all about Bell, and his retirement from fighting "evil".

Moss was just another man trampled by "evil". Bell understands absolutely everything that's happening before him, but he finally realizes that there's nothing he can do anymore. Just by dying he's not gonna change anything, "evil" will still continue, like it always has and always will. This is the reason why he doesn't confront Chigurh at the appartment where Moss was killed.

See it again, and you'll start to notice the delicacy and subtlety with which the story developes.

I loved it.
IMO, Best Picture of the year.
 

$teauA

Superstar
SlayerDeuS;2460125 said:
{SPOILER}

Read the book Hak, it'll answer quite few questions for you. However, I'll try to clear some up for you. You know near the end when Jones' character goes back to the hotel and they show Chigurh hiding behind a door or something? Well basically Chigurh was there to get the money and he ends up finding the money, because remember when he paid that kid at the end of the film? Jones' character goes back to the hotel and he knows that Chigurh is there too, but he is ready to retire from the police force so he knows that f he finds Chigurh he is a dead man thus he leaves him alone. It is pretty obvious that the "Mexican" gang killed Moss because they find out from his mother in-law where they are headed and they find Moss which leads to a shootout. Finally in the end Chigurh does kill Moss' wife, this too you can sort of imply because Chigurh checks his boots for blood when leaving that house. Chigurh hates getting his shoes/clothes dirtied with the blood of his victims as seen numerous times in the movie.


Yeah I thought all of this was quite clear so I think, Hakeem, you just need to see it again with all of this in mind and you'll definitely appreciate the last portion of the film much better.
 

BayernBoz

Senior Squad
It's easily understood where all the disappointment stems from. More than half of the movie, we are witnessing a cat and mouse chase and in the end we don't even get to see how the dude dies. It's like foreplay and right before you put it in, she gets up and leaves.

Definitely going to see once more.
 

Back Door Skip

Pedro
Staff member
Haha, the analogy. (H)

I was a bit thrown off by the ending as well. But I liked it more because it's something very unusual. If it would've ended with the cliche, cop kills bad guy, and he retires happy, and redneck dude keeps money, it would have been a good move. But not great.

The way it ended left me thinking for days, and I had to watch it again to really appreciate it. If the ending would have been predictable, I would have said, 'cool, good movie', but then forgotten all about it after.
 

Hakeem

Superman
$teauA;2460236 said:
Yeah I thought all of this was quite clear so I think, Hakeem, you just need to see it again with all of this in mind and you'll definitely appreciate the last portion of the film much better.

yeah, I mean, all you say makes sense but I what I'm saying is that the movie, just the movie, doesn't express all that the book did.

I knew Chigurh killed Moss' wife, that's fine, but who were these mexicans that killed Moss? I dont remember anybody else other than Chigurh and Bell trying to find Moss at that time, as Woody Harrelson's character was dead already and his boss too.
I didnt get that Chigurh at the end pays the kid with that money, my bad, but it wasn't really clear (where did he have the movie? the bag was not there).

And the other thing for me is all you say about Bell's persuit of Evil, I get that, but to me, the movie is not about Bell. To me its about Moss and Chigurh, and thats why I have the problem with the movie. Bell to me gives a speech at the beginning of then movie, and then just goes after Moss to protect him from Chigurh but he's never close to them, making him kind of distant from the other two, less important to the story IMO.

thanks for clarifying those things for me SlayerDeuS, and I will definetly watch it again. because its not that I didnt like the movie, I think its near perfect, but I believe you have to read the book in order to totally get the movie, and that shouldnt happen (:/)
 

SlayerDeuS

Starting XI
Watching it again will give you more insight for this film than reading the book IMO, because for me I kinda lost track of everything after Moss was killed. I paid more attention to the final 20-25 minutes the 2nd time watching it.

The kid who gave his shirt to Chigirh received a $100 bill from him, remember he said that it was alot of money or somethin.

About the Mexicans, they were tracking Moss throughout the entire movie as well. In the first hotel scene, Chigurh killed three of them.

Also, if you remember that guy in the office, Chigurh killed him because he gave the Mexicans a 2nd transponder to quickly find the money. That office boss guy also hired Harrelson's character because he thought Chigurh was insane and he doesn't find the money right away. So he hires Harrelson to basically take care of Chigurh and find the money also, which didn't exactly work.

I think the film is mainly about Bell and that he just isn't suited anymore to tackle the problems and pure evil that exists in their society. Hence the title "No Country for Old Men".
 


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