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[NK FOOTBALL ©]

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Enjoy,
:corn:
NK.

 

[elhelmiey]

i've just watch ur trailers.. and at the end of the game got crashed? anyway nice trailer.. i want my game works like that but i dont want my game got crashed like that

 

[some guy]

Also is it possible to make it then when a defender comes up behind you that he doesnt grab you and make you slow down for ages, and then your player falls over. It happens everytime, possibly make it such that defender holds the attacking player for a little, and then the attacker can go, or that defender is fast enough such that he can catch upto the ball instead of grabbing the attacking player and fouling all the time.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

Also is it possible to make it then when a defender comes up behind you that he doesnt grab you and make you slow down for ages, and then your player falls over. It happens everytime, possibly make it such that defender holds the attacking player for a little, and then the attacker can go, or that defender is fast enough such that he can catch upto the ball instead of grabbing the attacking player and fouling all the time.

Yes, I have been working on this area as I noticed it too!

I would say that now there is less cat and mouse. In some cases the defender will try and grab you and your striker will be too skilful and the ratings simply over-ride the 'grab' and he misses you. Or, the defence will just knock you over for a foul more often. Also, I've had it where the defender has caught up and took the ball off me no problem. Of course the 'jostle & foul' still happens. But I have increased the chance of other things happening also while tackling. It's more physical, so there are more fouls in different places.

I've had more penalty kicks for example, but I do play 20 minute matches.

NK.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

Ok, so difficulty is important for a football game. realism is the most important.

However, I decided to aim for realistic action, that if you are unable to use the correct or most beneficial managerial skills, then the cpu will totally destroy you for the 20 minutes playing time.

That is exactly what happened.
Results below. Of course I could release this, and see who can actually beat it. I mean, the action is realistic, just that the score-line goes up and up if you can't defend. The cpu have had some serious work put into the defending. For a whole 20 minutes, just look at how many shots I managed on goal. I was really feeling the pressure!

edit: and I can really play this game! Of course some play much better than myself, some worse then me. So I'm finding the key balance. But in this case, I would certainly consider moving down to professional difficulty if this was my season or career. and that is exactly what this is about. the learning curve will keep you at it.

NK.

 

[andy88]

Amazing!!!

Its the best gameplay i have ever played in fifa.Its really great!!!

 

[elhelmiey]

well at first i thought that u r going to release ur gameplay yesterday (Monday) but then just have read ur announcement about World Evolution 4 Advert at Sweetpatch MRA saying that it will take a long time before going to be released(?) anyway good luck NK FOOTBALL ©! it's worth to wait for the most realistic simulation gameplay update by far for fifa07
:mexican:

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

well at first i thought that u r going to release ur gameplay yesterday (Monday) but then just have read ur announcement about World Evolution 4 Advert at Sweetpatch MRA saying that it will take a long time before going to be released(?) anyway good luck NK FOOTBALL ©! it's worth to wait for the most realistic simulation gameplay update by far for fifa07
:mexican:

Thanks andy88 and you too elhelmiey.

WE4 hasn't got long to go now before it is in the final stages. What I'm doing right now is getting the shot mechanic sorted out to keep it challenging. In WE3, no matter where you shoot it is a challenge, no matter who you strike the ball with. In WE4, the shooting is more logical. Create a great chance with Rooney and he'll more than likely put it in the back of the net, only the difference between 3 and 4, is that WE4 is much harder to create a chance like that. The pressure on the strikers can really force a natural error onto the shot, which makes for some close calls and bad misses. Get clear space with your teams best striker and power up a scorcher! The game is much more realistic in this part and the CPU takes full advantage. As you may know or not know, I have worked on the CPU ability to break the user and doing this was tough because it's not simply an on/off option to break better! You've got to shape it all up and make it work right, otherwise you get a very odd feeling when playing. This isn't a problem anymore.

I will of course compare this latest WE4 build to the WE3 final to make sure that it is a clear improvement. So far, I'd say it is very much so more realistic and challenging in many key area's of play, defence being one of them (and probably the most vital).

Let me stress you that your managerial skills really make a 3+ goal difference now! You have to know how to compete against world class. You can't just sit back with default formations and tactics. The CPU is quicker at changing tactical options and getting at your weakness. EA SPORTS are obviously to thank for this, but I've exposed it even more so if you (for example) go a man-down, the CPU won't mess about. They'll get the ball into that free-space and exploit you.

It's hard to just go "here, this is this and right now the cpu is doing this", becuase the unpredictable nature of the update makes it far harder to judge where the games going and what score it's going to be. I was holding off Italy playing as England to 3-0 for first 10 minute half, then I quit the game in the 2nd half as I went down 6-0 pretty early. And it wasn't unrealistic. It felt, like I genuinely wasn't good enough. And that's exactly what it should be. If I was really 'world class', I'd be unstoppable!! So now kids, world class really is world class. even if you're better then me...if you get your tactics wrong and only rely on your ability to pull off a few skills and accurate shots, then the cpu will score more then you.

WE4 is going to p*ss a lot of players' off who are used to playing on world class and winning 6 out of 4 games. Because now the average (not the amazingly skilled player mind) is going to win 2 out of 6 games, if that!

Seriously, I've created a monster lol. But hell, you guys pushed me to make it harder and then I pushed and kept pushing myself to make it harder...

Soon, this thing will think for itself lol.

NK.

 

[some guy]

very nice, sounds awesome.
Pretty soon the professional footballers will be playing this before they walk out onto the pitch ahaha.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

very nice, sounds awesome.
Pretty soon the professional footballers will be playing this before they walk out onto the pitch ahaha.

Haha, that'd be the day eh?

Well, I just lose 12-0 on world class to Brazil again as England. I made the shooting harder. They had 43 shots, 27 on and got 12 passed my keeper.

I had about 10 shots! 2 on target. I really did get a butt-kicking.

This result knocked my out of the semi-final cup.

I have slowed down the gameplay, but the cpu just break through my defence easier. This is more of a test for bad tactics. Through-out the course of the game if I changed tactics more often for the better they wouldn't score 12, no way. Just need to apply it.

I'm not good enough no more for world class and I bloomin made the update!

:corn:
NK.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

Release date confirmation.

Hey guys!

Ok, so here's the WE4 release date so you know what's going on.

6th July, Friday

For those of you who want to see an impressive match, a DVD will be out soon for you to download. It will require you to burn it onto a DVD.

But the match itself is a good one! And will certainly show off the difficulty of World Class. Watching the game back almost feels like watching a vs. game rather than user v cpu.

EDIT: download the DVD now! (big download 800+mb) http://files.filefront.com/WE4+DVDrar/;7908751;;/fileinfo.html

NK.

 

[elhelmiey]

i wish i can download it but my internet connection r becoming slower n slower day by day now.. probably due to the internet provider in my country so now just waiting for the 6th of July! :mexican:

 

[walpurgisng]

Again with the stupid release dates and hype. If its so good now just release it today. Your not a computer company nor an expert stop acting like one.

 

[some guy]

hey man walpurgisng, i think you should relax a little and not insult him. He makes this in his own spare time for everyone else, and doesnt recieve anything for it. Exactly he isnt a company, so we should all appreciate his work a little more because he isnt doing it for personal gain. Thanks NK mate really looking foward to the release.

 

[elhelmiey]

EDIT: download the DVD now! (big download 800+mb) http://files.filefront.com/WE4+DVDrar/;7908751;;/fileinfo.html

finally i've download n watch the file :mexican:
01:54 great fk n goal by ronaldinho
11:59 late n dangerous clearance by cicinho
22:02 beautiful cole's flip flap
41:38 should the foul like that given a penalty?
43:53 rooney block cole's shot
50:11 fantastic strike by fred
55:03 wonderful crouch's flip flap
71:05 simple goal by ronaldinho
90:00 once again amazing goal by fred :amika:

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

Again with the stupid release dates and hype. If its so good now just release it today. Your not a computer company nor an expert stop acting like one.

you are a bitter and immature young man. Your e-thuggish attitude won't make anyone think more, only less of you.

Grow up. This is a community to try and innovate and keep the editing alive and fresh. I believe what I did was different and took the update to another perspective. I don't claim to be a professional or expert. what I do is of my highest standard and I try my up-most best in every area to deliver the most professional gameplay update I can. I want you guys to get quality out of your game. Is that a crime? Excuse me, but I thought I was doing a good thing, not bad.

I thought you had more class, however your views are shallow and rude.


NK.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

finally i've download n watch the file :mexican:
01:54 great fk n goal by ronaldinho
11:59 late n dangerous clearance by cicinho
22:02 beautiful cole's flip flap
41:38 should the foul like that given a penalty?
43:53 rooney block cole's shot
50:11 fantastic strike by fred
55:03 wonderful crouch's flip flap
71:05 simple goal by ronaldinho
90:00 once again amazing goal by fred :amika:

Thanks buddy and thank 'Some Guy'

The penalty was a shock to me, it felt as though the referee made a mistake which was great.

Blocking shots on goal is really important now and easier to do. It keeps the game feeling playable and as though you can defend properly without those 'forced goals'. The game speed now, is slower and the shot mechanic is more tweaked towards lesser goals. the result is lesser shots on goal and harder mechanic. But nothing like WE3.

The reason is that the mechanic now feels in your control, your fault to miss. Rather than a forced error, the chance of error is little. So if you miss, it's your fault. the pressure from cpu defenders will mount onto the error of the shot and depending on marking and skill factors, the pressure will vary instead of simply having 'a shot from here with such power will go wide'. Now, you can't be sure.

I am working on reducing goal scores.

NK.

 

[gamerguy350]

Well I've just started playing Fifa again after a good 4-5 months of PES.

It's an ok patch mate, the play is good in places, but I think the biggest issue is with shooting. I understand the concept of making it harder to have a shot on target, but I think what you've got here is a bit OTT (to say the least). I was fooling around in training mode just to get used to Fifa again. I was Utd playing against only the goalie. Just send a cross in to Rooney, he chests it down and -- what? It skies over toward the corner flag? Hang on, Rooney doesn't usually miss, must've been a fluke. I send in another cross, Rooney again....wide? from the penalty spot? did someone replace Rooney with my Nan?

I try a manager mode game as Lincoln City, League 2 side. I control the game, pressure all the time, but not a single shot on target. I had about 3 chances where I was through on goal and the ball is shot off towards the corner flag.

It feels a bit like 07 on the 360, where if you try and aim for a corner it'll always go wide, only it's quite a bit worse in WE3.

The shooting doesn't feel realistic at all. All the shots missed I could've put away easily, and I'm not exactly Wayne Rooney.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

Well I've just started playing Fifa again after a good 4-5 months of PES.

It's an ok patch mate, the play is good in places, but I think the biggest issue is with shooting. I understand the concept of making it harder to have a shot on target, but I think what you've got here is a bit OTT (to say the least). I was fooling around in training mode just to get used to Fifa again. I was Utd playing against only the goalie. Just send a cross in to Rooney, he chests it down and -- what? It skies over toward the corner flag? Hang on, Rooney doesn't usually miss, must've been a fluke. I send in another cross, Rooney again....wide? from the penalty spot? did someone replace Rooney with my Nan?

I try a manager mode game as Lincoln City, League 2 side. I control the game, pressure all the time, but not a single shot on target. I had about 3 chances where I was through on goal and the ball is shot off towards the corner flag.

It feels a bit like 07 on the 360, where if you try and aim for a corner it'll always go wide, only it's quite a bit worse in WE3.

The shooting doesn't feel realistic at all. All the shots missed I could've put away easily, and I'm not exactly Wayne Rooney.

Indeed. My main beta tester and testers are officially off duty for the rest of development for WE4. It was a personal choice due to the feedback given. It wasn't because of negative feedback, but the feedback wasn't giving me anything to work with. No matter how much you appreciate someone taking their time, if the feedback doesn't lead you to progress, you might as well make progress yourself and give the guys a break!!! I felt like I was slaving them, the feedback became little to nothing and I felt as though they were doing it not to hurt me personally, which wouldn't have happened. The update remains strong and the testing from users is over. It's old skool now lads. Besides, someone telling me the score they received isn't helping, someone telling me what the ball physics are behaving like however, does help. It almost sounds like a harsh reaction, to stop testing...but it's one that will keep it together as it was becoming a bit of a 'make it impossible to win' kinda approach.

NK.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

just so people know, the update is going fine. WE4 will take certain shot mechanic principles from WE3, so it is very much my own design. However, I have learnt a few things since WE3 thus making shots more realistic and still keeping the challenge.

The last WE4 beta didn't contain these values. This is new, but won't take long to finish. everything else is pretty much done and ready for the release this Friday.

NK.