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Muslims upset at in-your-face lesson in Dutchness
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Dreath said:
You know, we got this religion here, the Contemporary Mayans, where we like to sacrifice 3 month-old babies. We're counting on your respect and understanding.
It's also funny to hear you talking about respecting other faiths, religions and beliefs, when the problem here is Muslims coming over to european countries and respecting what they will find there.
Nothing has been proven one way or the other. There's a lot of debate within the scientific community. Some research suggests that about 10% of people may be genetically pre-dispositioned to homosexual behavior, but a much smaller percentage actually become homosexuals.Virgo said:
If homosexuality was purely genetic, there would be no homosexuals right now, since they generally tend not to reproduce. The "gay genes" would have died off centuries ago.
Blaming religion for bigotry is like blaming the internet for child pornography.IceBlu said:
Bigotry will always be there, in different shapes and forms. Islam has not instigated anyone to kill anyone. Some people are simply barbarians. They would still be barbarians even if they weren't religious zealots. Those who thirst for blood will always find a reason to kill. It could be religion, it could be anything. If you're a fascist asshole, you're a fascist asshole whether religion exists or not.
Words written in a book can not make you do anything. It's a choice. Let's say I watched a slasher flick and then went on a killing spree. When I get caught I say that I murdered all those people because I saw it in a movie and I thought it looked cool. Would you blame the makers of the film for the murders or was there something fundamentally wrong with me that made me kill?
king said:Why are muslims so offended because of the topless babes on the beach? I still don't get it, don't there mother breast feed them? don't they look at those boobs bouncing up and down while ripping the pussies of there 4 whory wives at one time (I mean thats the total of 8 boobs). I mean they also get turned on by females in Burkha.
Are you joking or are you just ******* stupid?
To be honest I would be more worried about someone who compares his mom to topless girls at a beach than someone who was offended by the later.
As for the video, well it is nothing new, the dutch don't want muslims just like the yanks don't want mexicans, it isn't right or "ethical" but it is done in every country. In fact, in Egypt you have to go through different paperwork and pay higher fees and taxes if you are not muslim, why? Because they don't want non-muslims in the country, just like a lot of eurotrash are worried that muslims will come over and try and change "what they find there", muslims are afraid of non-muslims coming over and messing with the culture, all the same game, different language. As for being turned on by burkhas, that is not my thing, but it is hard to take any insult from a member of a race that seems to douse itself in curry powder every morning, very seriously.
Do you guys do it to piss the rest of us off? Stereotypes aren't very funny are they now,prick?
AhmedK said:Are you joking or are you just ******* stupid?
To be honest I would be more worried about someone who compares his mom to topless girls at a beach than someone who was offended by the later.
As for the video, well it is nothing new, the dutch don't want muslims just like the yanks don't want mexicans, it isn't right or "ethical" but it is done in every country. In fact, in Egypt you have to go through different paperwork and pay higher fees and taxes if you are not muslim, why? Because they don't want non-muslims in the country, just like a lot of eurotrash are worried that muslims will come over and try and change "what they find there", muslims are afraid of non-muslims coming over and messing with the culture, all the same game, different language. As for being turned on by burkhas, that is not my thing, but it is hard to take any insult from a member of a race that seems to douse itself in curry powder every morning, very seriously.
Do you guys do it to piss the rest of us off? Stereotypes aren't very funny are they now,prick?
It is not hard to see that the prick is desperately trying to make friends on the internet. Morons keep laughing at his stupidity and he keeps the stupidity coming.
TheBlueBalla
Starting XI
IceBlu said:speaking of over-zealous...
July 25, 2005
Iran: Gay Teens Executed by Hanging
In the city of Mashhad in north-eastern Iran, two gay teens have been executed. One was 18 and the other is thought to have been 16 or 17. First they were lashed 228 times, though. Not long after the execution there were howls of outrage from the Iranian parliament - not at the execution itself, but at the temerity of journalists to report it.
According to the website Age of Consent, which monitors such laws around the world, in Iran “Homosexuality is illegal, those charged with love-making Irangay_teens_2 are given a choice of four deathstyles: being hanged, stoned, halved by a sword, or dropped from the highest perch.
Source: http://atheism.about.com/b/a/187568.htm
Just another story to reiterate what we already know. Parts of the Muslim world live in the stone age and practice barbaric rituals... and the worst part is that they intend keeping it that way.
Some of you might come and defend islam saying that this isn't something preached by the Koran. Perhaps not. I haven't read it and don't intend reading it either. The point is that so many atrocities have been committed in the name of Islam so whether you like it not, the religion has instigated people to act they way they do.
Ive got an idea
Someone make a thread about every injustice they get wind of from the Muslim world. That way, when fh makes a new thread about how awful the west is towards islam, it gets drowned out among stories like this.
And even if the Dutch showed them the uncensored version of the video, which they are not, then what the hell is wrong with that? They find that material offensive? Well, theyre going to be exposed to it one way or another should they choose to live in the Netherlands. By demonstrating these tendencies of their society up front, the Dutch would be getting those muslims who are most uncaring of the more shocking aspects of western culture, and thus, it follows, the citizens most ready to adapt. I thought Pim Fortuyn was a scumbag, but I can hardly blame them for wanting to keep zealots like his assassin out of the fu*king country.
The double standard is light years beyond laughable. In one continent, they condemn a video indended to desensitize and familiarize them with Dutch culture because it offends their sensibilites, despite attempting to portray the reality which they may have to confront when they, you know, live in the frigging Netherlands. All this done under the aegis of what is and what isnt PC
On the other continent, they are cutting teenage boys in half after 200+ lashings (228 is sadism. You have to be f*cking unhuman to administer that) for being sexually experimental. I dont find cutting kids with swords very PC. Maybe I should lodge a complaint
rpvankasteren
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That scum Fortuyn was assasinated by a left wing environmentalist, not a muslim extremist. Doesn't change the point you made, it still stands.TheBlueBalla said:
Virgo said:man... really the hole is getting deeper, you're defending dictatorships now.
that last sentence is so brilliant though. Sig material
Sometimes I wish I had a wall with me at all times to bang my head into.
I am a scientist, at least one in training. I'm studying biochemistry. But even I know, as history has shown time and time again, science only proves something until something else proves it otherwise, apart from universal truths of physics, which are few. But when genetics come into it, as with the homosexuality "gene", they are not certain of it. By a long way. Science apart from maths, is not a certainty. It is just a high probability. It is anything but infallible. So because both science and religion are not certainties, they are both just as justifed and true as each other.
And do you think that every other government type apart from democracy is a dictatorship? If so, I do worry for you. Just for the record, i'm not talking about afganistan in particular.
Oh and I'm sorry I don't bum Bill Hicks. I can't repsect someone who is intolerable of religion because religion is intolerable to others.
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Virgo
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Dreath said:
YES!!! you can replace scientific laws with more SCIENTIFIC evidence! That's why that quote is so goddamn brilliant
!About the "gay genes" and how they could survive the lack of reprodution you can read about it here:
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6519
oh no, there goes the final alibi to continue to say being gay is wrong.
Comparing religion and science is an insult to any normal person's intelligence. How can you even say that when you're using a computer every day, cell phones, etc. I'm sure those aren't certainties either, right?
I don't even feel like you're worth wasting my time explaining the difference between religious dogmas and scientific theories, the scientific laws and the fact that they're testable; the difference between believing and knowing, because you're clearly either retarded or some brainwashed jeovah's witness or something.
And no I don't think any other form of government other than democracry is wrong. I have lots of issues with democracy and the way you win elections nowadays by practicing demagogy in campaigns with the use of rhetoric and propaganda, and thus deceiving the people.
There are a set of fundamental rights though that must be preserved with any form of government called HUMAN RIGHTS (don't know if you've ever heard of them) and they're just not generally granted in dictatorships and much less in countries like Iran.
Mind you these rights weren't really created because the catholic religion says so, or because it seemed nice at the time, they were created to ensure the difference between what we call barbaric and developed are noted, and because we need supra-governmental laws to live in a minimally fair society, otherwise anyone could go to your house if they felt like it and kill you and your whole family, steal all your money and get away with it.
I'm sure someone like ShiftyPowers would be able to shed some more light on this particular subject though.
By the way, Bill Hicks unlike me believed in god although being against the hypocrisy of religions.
Do you realise what you're posting though? By other words you'd be fine if Tony Blair said he was gonna execute all ginger people (ben
) because that's his right to be intolerant.I bet Hitler was in his right to be intolerant as well. Oh he wasn't? Maybe you're wrong then?
See your view would be shocking in any modern society if it wasn't for the fact that I'm absolutely convinced that you don't even know what you write, where you stand, etc. You're just clueless about it, and thus mean no harm.
The_Knight
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So this entire muslim-bashing thread was based upon a manipulated story that didn't turn out to be true. Then when that didn't work out, it started setting a 'what if' scenario about the SAME story just for the sake of keeping the bashing flowing...
Then when that was over, someone posted an article that's been circulating torrent sites that almost all teenagers visit on an hourly basis.
And from these scraps of knowledge (if they qualify to be called "knowledge"), youngsters are formulating philosophical ideas about major issues like life, belief, and international politics.
I'll just say that the ideology of 'reading for knowledge' is long gone in this current generation, and the ones that will follow. Now everyone's main source of info is SG, The Daily Show, and an article with a title chosen to grab the attention of a kid on a torrent site.
Fast food information.
If only it were harmless.
Then when that was over, someone posted an article that's been circulating torrent sites that almost all teenagers visit on an hourly basis.
And from these scraps of knowledge (if they qualify to be called "knowledge"), youngsters are formulating philosophical ideas about major issues like life, belief, and international politics.
I'll just say that the ideology of 'reading for knowledge' is long gone in this current generation, and the ones that will follow. Now everyone's main source of info is SG, The Daily Show, and an article with a title chosen to grab the attention of a kid on a torrent site.
Fast food information.
If only it were harmless.
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Virgo
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I'm sure this one http://isna.ir/Main/NewsView.aspx?ID=News-556874
is fake too, even the pictures right?
Someone has just way too much time on their hands and they got some people together with officer's uniform and just staged an execution for kicks.
is fake too, even the pictures right?
Someone has just way too much time on their hands and they got some people together with officer's uniform and just staged an execution for kicks.
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IceBlu
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Virgo said:
Oh wow.
Its like some of these people get off torture and bloodshed. Its like Pay Per View for them... thousands gathering to witness beheadings and decapitations
Paulo Da Silva
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Run DMB said:
actually that is where you are wrong. A person inherits 2 genes for every trait. You can get one trait that says your straight and the other that says your gay. Now if the Straight gene is dominant and the gay gene is recessive your straight, and if its the opposite your gay. Now eventhough somebody is straight they still MAY have the gay gene, but in its recessive form. Now lets say you mate with a female who also has the gay gene in recessive form. the baby may acquire both gay recessive genes meaning he shall be gay.
Take a look at Mandelian Genetics, very interesting and factual
The_Knight
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OMG... My point wasn't that it's "fake". My point is that it was "hand-picked".
rpvankasteren
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You're right. It almost seems every thread fh_29 has created here is based on some sort of distorted/manipulated newsfact.
The_Knight said:
You facking hypocrit. Does it matter if they get their news from SG, from a newspaper or from a book, as long as it if factual? The only difference is that now more information is available to more people, on all kinds of forms and shapes.
Twenty years ago most kids were ignorant about most issues outside their day-to-day life in their countries, and now we all have first-hand access to different realities. I don't know how our present situation can be worse.
Is it hand-picked? Two points, before answering:
1) That is not the important issue when we're talking about teenagers being executed by something as personal as sexual orientation. At least not to me. But we all know you like to divert everybody's attention into details that, in comparison, are not important.
2) Most people here aren't bashing muslims, but rather discussing something that goes on in Iran, which is an Islamic Republic. Stop acting like a girl.
Now, is it hand-picked or not? A certain person has been lately creating a number of threads on the same line. However, long before him, political issues were discussed here as well. All sorts of political issues.
Anyway, if the stories posted are factual, what do you expect everybody to do? Ignore it?
But you're such a facking hypocrite. Didn't you open a thread about 9-11 recently? Isn't our information also hand-picked outside the internet? And are all types of books available to, lets say, any woman in an Islamic country? How did you, as a muslim, express your revolt against the lack of personal freedoms in countries like Iran?
You, my little friend, seem to come here riding on a high horse, looking down at all 'youngsters formulating philosophical ideas', and I bet that is the high point of your day. That is when you wet your pink panties in excitement, convinced Allah has in you a Knight ready to champion all muslim-related causes, always serving enlightment to this crowd of misguided teenagers.
By the way, do you think an Islamic regime has the right to punish homosexuals?
Let's look at a family in which both the mother and father are carrying a gay recessive gene.Paulo Da Silva said:
S = straight
s = gay
The mother and father are both Ss. They have four children. Statistically, this is what they get:
Child #1 is SS
Child #2 is Ss
Child #3 is Ss
Child #4 is ss
#4 is gay. #4 doesn't reproduce. Child #2 and #3 would have the same chance of producing a gay offspring IF they marry another Ss. But child #1 has absolutely NO chance of producing gay offspring. Only 2 of the four can produce a gay offspring.
So statistically, if the couple has two children, as is about the average, only one of the two will carry on the gay gene. We start with two people (the parents) who are carrying the gay gene and we end up with one. As this process continues, wouldn't the number of homosexual people decrease with each generation?
If we use the same example with the left handed gene (using R for right handed and r for left-handed) we get the same results, except the rr child can go on and reproduce, balancing out the RR child. That doesn't happen with the "gay gene".
I don't know, maybe I'm getting something mixed up, it's been awhile since I took biology.